New Yorks new permit rules...

[Tvandermyde]

http://www.nyc.gov/html/nycrules/downloads/rules/P_NYPD_09_01_10_a.pdf

 

 

you have to go take a look at was could disqualify you from getting a permit. UFB ! ! !

[lieut89]

Just think, our last 3 Presidents would not qualify, as they have all admitted to the use of a controlled substance in their past. Then of course their is the good moral character issue in which Bill Clinton gets the double whammy.

[Pecker]

Wow, even traffic tickets will disqualify you.

[kurt555gs]

Replace "disqualifications for hand gun" with "right to vote" and read again. I do not say this in jest. I think it is disgusting.

[GarandFan]

Thanks, Todd.

 

I believe the reasons for these changes has to do with transparency on denials for permits. New York has been sued for its "may-issue" approach to permitting. It centers on "good cause" and "lack of moral character" and before, IIRC, there were really no boundaries around what it meant to "lack moral character" as a basis for a denial. Recall also that "defense of self or home" had in the past been deemed "not good cause." All that has changed, of course.

 

Now that they are being sued about it, they don't want to change their rules, but they want to try to appear more objective about what constitutes "lacking moral character." Although that New York county is being sued on the grounds of that applicants have to show "good cause" so maybe my explanation is lacking.

 

But at any rate, I suspect this is mostly about trying to bolster their chances that their permitting system will be deemed "constitutional" in the courts.

[Tvandermyde]

considering the word "fundamental" I'm not sure how.

[Howard Roark]

Todd, thanks for the link. Yeah, didn't SCOTUS say the RKBA is fundamental and must be treated with the same respect as the 1st, 4th, and, 5th Amendments? Mayor Bloomberg is so stupid on guns. He's gonna have to get his a** kicked in court before he'll wake up. Just like Mayor Shortshanks in Chicago.

[Drylok]

1st Heller then McDonald and now it seems worse than it was before with a few of the cities around the country and we're going to have to go through God knows how many more years of litigation before any of this is resolved. The good news is we're up to 3 constitutional carry states with more considering it, down to what is is 4 may issue states? and down to only 1 "right denied" state.

[junglebob]

A fellow on the carryconcealed.net forum from New York State mentioned he had applied for a New York license. He had applied for a concealed carry license for target and or hunting. He says you can carry concealed to and from a range or to or from hunting. He said for an unrestricted license to carry you need to prove a need. Some people carry targets and are members of ranges open 24/7, you can make other stops going to or from the range. So at anytime they might be going to the range.

 

Your permit is valid only for the handguns listed on the license and you can carry only those listed. Oddly enough, in New York you have to have purchased a gun or placed a gun on layaway to apply for a license, but according to the law you are not allowed to even tough a handgun without a license.

 

He said rumor has it that after having the license for 5 years you can apply for an unrestricted license and may be approved.

[Xwing]

1st Heller then McDonald and now it seems worse than it was before with a few of the cities around the country and we're going to have to go through God knows how many more years of litigation before any of this is resolved. The good news is we're up to 3 constitutional carry states with more considering it, down to what is is 4 may issue states? and down to only 1 "right denied" state.

 

 

As of Jan 1, it'll be down to 8 really "may issue" states. (Although has anyone read Deleware's policy? They make you publish your application in a newspaper and are "may issue", but also recognize many other states' permits.)