Best all-around semiauto .308 for the $$$

[eric2281]

I've wanted a .308 semiauto for some time now & I was just kicking around some ideas to myself earlier. I have a good amount of info on a few choices but they all have pro's & cons. I'm not looking to jump into a purchase real soon but would like to see some fresh, new perspectives on the following choices.

 

P.s. Please don't select M1A "just because". It's the priciest gun on the list so there better be some good reasons.

 

Eta: My poll vanished!

 

Eta II: For some reason, I can't get the poll up so...

 

My choices were:

 

1. AR10 variant

2. G3 clone~ PTR-91 (not Century arms)

3. FAL

4. M1A

[Kenny]

I've wanted a .308 semiauto for some time now & I was just kicking around some ideas to myself earlier. I have a good amount of info on a few choices but they all have pro's & cons. I'm not looking to jump into a purchase real soon but would like to see some fresh, new perspectives on the following choices.

 

P.s. Please don't select M1A "just because". It's the priciest gun on the list so there better be some good reasons.

 

Eta: My poll vanished!

 

Eta II: For some reason, I can't get the poll up so...

 

My choices were:

 

1. AR10 variant

2. G3 clone~ PTR-91 (not Century arms)

3. FAL

4. M1A

 

I have had most of them & the M1A is my choice I have been trying to trade stuff for one for a while now & I can't get people to come off them!! I have an FAL for you eric with lots of extras & stuff cheap. Call me!!

[Dwe]

I would say out of all those choices.

 

What do you want to do?

 

I like the M1a, but it is old tech.

 

If you want to scope it, your going to pay to do that. Plus mil-spec parts are hard to find, or pay a premium.

 

The FNFAL is a ok weapon, but same thing. Scoping off the cover on top is a pain. If you were in colder weather, the gas port settings could be needed.

 

I would go with the AR10 system or such

I've wanted a .308 semiauto for some time now & I was just kicking around some ideas to myself earlier. I have a good amount of info on a few choices but they all have pro's & cons. I'm not looking to jump into a purchase real soon but would like to see some fresh, new perspectives on the following choices.

 

P.s. Please don't select M1A "just because". It's the priciest gun on the list so there better be some good reasons.

 

Eta: My poll vanished!

 

Eta II: For some reason, I can't get the poll up so...

 

My choices were:

 

1. AR10 variant

2. G3 clone~ PTR-91 (not Century arms)

3. FAL

4. M1A

I have had an M1A for 10 years and love it, but for the last 2 years I've come to love my 2 DPMS LR308's, I know there are people on this board who will tell you not to get one, but my experience is that they are well made and reasonably priced. I Love the whole black rifle thing and the AP-4 in 7.62 really scratches that itch. The Other is a 24" stainless fluted model in .308 win. I liked the way it did it's thing so wee that I bought the 16" AP-4. Only got about 150 rounds down the pipe but it is quickly becoming my favorite black rifle.

[c-rock]

I would say out of all those choices.

 

What do you want to do?

 

I like the M1a, but it is old tech.

 

If you want to scope it, your going to pay to do that. Plus mil-spec parts are hard to find, or pay a premium.

 

The FNFAL is a ok weapon, but same thing. Scoping off the cover on top is a pain. If you were in colder weather, the gas port settings could be needed.

 

I would go with the AR10 system or such

[eric2281]

Thanks for the replies guys. Kenny, I'll talk to you more about the FAL this week. DWE, those are some beaut's you have there. C-rock, to be honest, I'm leaning towards either a AR10 or the PTR-91. I could build an AR10 over time & it's a system I'm familiar with. The PTR-91 is about the same price if not cheaper & mags can be bought for under $1.

[c-rock]

I guess its the Ar10 for ya then.

 

I have shot the HK-91 before. It is a blowback operation on reloading. We are talking recoil here.

 

308 has alot of recoil in a blowback gun. I did not like shooting the 91. It ate into my shoulder. Cool looking gun, but there is better tech out there.

[Machine]

I traded my Armalite AR-10 back to the dealer for half of what I bought it for because I was sick of the FTF issues. Sent it back once, tried all mags including the 10 round stockers - not reliable enough to be in my collection. Just a heads up.

[DoYouFeelLucky]

I've had a DPMS LR-308 for a few years and love it! Most of the FTF issues were due to the original polymer/plastic mags. Polish the feed ramp and chamber, use the new metal mags, and feed it decent ammo, and it's very reliable. With Federal Gold Medal Match ammo it shoots 5 into slightly more than an inch at 200 yds if I do my part. I believe CMMG now offers .308 upper/lowers with the choice to use Armalite or DPMS magazines.

[boog]

Here is mine. DPMS I got the upper at r-guns and the rest of it on the internet. I will have to figure out total cost, but it is sweet shooting. No problems with it, although probably only fired a few hundred rounds with it. That's an Osprey scope 10x40 for xtra long range.

boog

[Kipp Jones]

Another vote for the DPMS LR-308.

[Ol'Coach]

Have an HK91, not a clone. IMO the recoil isn't bad.

[eric2281]

Thanks for all the insight guys. I do appreciate it. I see DPMS .308 lowers on GB for around $250. Does anyone know who has 'em for closer to $200, if not under $200?

[ryr8828]

Thanks for all the insight guys. I do appreciate it. I see DPMS .308 lowers on GB for around $250. Does anyone know who has 'em for closer to $200, if not under $200?

I've never seen a .308 lower for $200, much less unde3r $200. $250 sounds pretty good.

[boog]

Thanks for all the insight guys. I do appreciate it. I see DPMS .308 lowers on GB for around $250. Does anyone know who has 'em for closer to $200, if not under $200?

I've never seen a .308 lower for $200, much less unde3r $200. $250 sounds pretty good.

I just saw this. Don't know anything the company though

 

http://www.jsesurplus.com/dpmslr-308strippedlowerreceiver.aspx

boog

[ryr8828]

Thanks for all the insight guys. I do appreciate it. I see DPMS .308 lowers on GB for around $250. Does anyone know who has 'em for closer to $200, if not under $200?

I've never seen a .308 lower for $200, much less unde3r $200. $250 sounds pretty good.

I just saw this. Don't know anything the company though

 

http://www.jsesurplus.com/dpmslr-308strippedlowerreceiver.aspx

boog

JSE Surplus is ok. I bought my dpms .308 at their store, I work at Cape Girardeau a lot.

[kurt555gs]

I've wanted a .308 semiauto for some time now & I was just kicking around some ideas to myself earlier. I have a good amount of info on a few choices but they all have pro's & cons. I'm not looking to jump into a purchase real soon but would like to see some fresh, new perspectives on the following choices.

 

P.s. Please don't select M1A "just because". It's the priciest gun on the list so there better be some good reasons.

 

Eta: My poll vanished!

 

Eta II: For some reason, I can't get the poll up so...

 

My choices were:

 

1. AR10 variant

2. G3 clone~ PTR-91 (not Century arms)

3. FAL

4. M1A

 

How about a SCAR 17?

[Ashes]

I'm still debating between these two .308 designs...

 

 

[Howard Roark]

I'm still debating between these two .308 designs...

 

 

 

Scary guns! Are you sure they're safe?

[eric2281]

I wonder how it is shooting the RFB (or any bullpup) from the prone position? I like the RFB too but it's way too pricey.

[templar223]

I wonder how it is shooting the RFB (or any bullpup) from the prone position? I like the RFB too but it's way too pricey.

 

Don't know.

 

I do know firing the collapsible stocked HK91 will net you fat lips.

 

John

[Tvandermyde]

I missread the post. I though it said best 380 for the $$$.

 

But now that I have it right, I have all of them. So question is what do you want it for? long range semi-auto sniper? CQB gun? Target practise? SHTF?

 

To me guns are like screw drivers. Each one has a job. So lets start....

 

The G3/91 was a battle rifle adopted by some 50 or so nations. Good rifle, feeds and functions under extreme conditions due to it's fluted chamber. heck on brass as the ejection is so violent that it dents the casing. Yes it acutally puts a crease in the side at about a 30 degree angle. I've reloaded some but it's a pain to make sure you get all of it out. You can get the claw mount for scopes but they sit up pretty high. Tough with a colaspable stock. Easy to feild strip and clean but gettign the bolt back together was always a pain for me.

 

You can pop out the whole trigger mech and drop in the PSG1 sniper model. The PSG1 was a $8000 model of the 81 set up for sniping. They made a upgraded 91 model as an inbetween model with the PSG1 trigger and adjustable butstock. I carried one for a while cause I didn't like the M16A1. And mags are cheap right now about $5 each

 

I am an M14 fan and own several M1As. But here you get a large degree of do you want a national match gun or a SOCOM2? all of mine are undergoing make overs aimed at CQB. You can spend $4000 on a M25 whitefeatheror less for a scout 18" model. Optics are an issue for sheek placement and getting a good cheek weld hence part of the make over of my guns. Mags are around but can get pricy.

 

FN great guns and they were adopted by 65 nations as their main battle rifles and work great. DSA has taken the FAL to a whole new level from where FN left off. You have everythign from a CQB gun to a SASS. Rails, stock choices, I have always liked the cocking handle as like the M1 or G3 you could grab it unlike the ARs Mags are around and still kinda cheap since some 9 million I think were made in the 70s - 80s.

 

The AR10 -- platform. There are all kinds of .308 ARs coming out. DPMS has had their's. Armalite has theirs. Now Rock River has one and LMT is comingout with one including their MRP upper design. So the thing to think about here is what mags do they use? I kow Armalite is proprietary. Raock River uses FN mags. Not sure about the others. So if you plan on having more than 1 .308, do you want say an FN and a Rock where you can share magazines. That is the question for an AR10 -- what mags do they use and how easy/$$ to obtain are they?

 

Assuming that there could be an attempt at another mag ban inthe future. Not likely to pass but you never know in this world.

 

In the AR10 you can get all the SASS to CQB stuff that you want. Most guys are familiar with them becuase of the .223 ARs.

 

any questions?