temporary Posted March 31, 2014 at 09:43 PM Posted March 31, 2014 at 09:43 PM Looks like people who did their training with Security Guard College are being DENIEDAt least I did after checking the status of my application today.Any one else out there with the same issue?I keep calling the place but all I get is their voicmail. Looks like its gonna start all over after I get my training somewhere else.
mbrich Posted March 31, 2014 at 09:55 PM Posted March 31, 2014 at 09:55 PM Did you check the instructor look up to see if your instructor is still on the list? Is this place this: http://www.securityguardcollege.com/armed.php They don't seem to be advertising Concealed Carry but are offering a "Weekend Training For Chicago Gun Permit Program" classes.
mbrich Posted March 31, 2014 at 10:06 PM Posted March 31, 2014 at 10:06 PM Nevermind, I found their Concealed Carry Page (had to go through the site map) so maybe they are no longer offering this course. http://www.securityguardcollege.com/cc.php I would however, look at the IL Instructor Look-up and see if you instructor's name is still listed as eligible. If they pulled his eligibility I would want a refund. On a side note, did you receive an email stating why you were denied (or actual paper in the mail)? Are you sure you were denied because of training?
pdpsc Posted March 31, 2014 at 10:10 PM Posted March 31, 2014 at 10:10 PM Looks like people who did their training with Security Guard College are being DENIED At least I did after checking the status of my application today. Any one else out there with the same issue? I keep calling the place but all I get is their voicmail. Looks like its gonna start all over after I get my training somewhere else. I think there was a warning about Security Guard College doing improper training in these forums a long time ago.
temporary Posted March 31, 2014 at 10:21 PM Author Posted March 31, 2014 at 10:21 PM I did my training with them back in November at which point the instructor was on the Approved List. He is off the list nowTheir website did offer the training but looks like they took the link from the main page off.Didn't receive anything from the ISP, just checked my status online and it said Your application has been denied for the following reasons: Failed to meet all training requirements Keep calling the place and leaving messages with no responseThinking of stoping by Bass Pro in Bollingbrook tomorrow to speak to the manager.
RacerDave6 Posted March 31, 2014 at 10:26 PM Posted March 31, 2014 at 10:26 PM I did my training with them back in November at which point the instructor was on the Approved List. He is off the list nowTheir website did offer the training but looks like they took the link from the main page off.Didn't receive anything from the ISP, just checked my status online and it said Your application has been denied for the following reasons: Failed to meet all training requirements Keep calling the place and leaving messages with no responseThinking of stoping by Bass Pro in Bollingbrook tomorrow to speak to the manager.Ya, they are not teaching at BP anymore either.
mbrich Posted March 31, 2014 at 11:01 PM Posted March 31, 2014 at 11:01 PM I waited to take my training. I didn't do the classes until 2 weeks ago. I mostly blame my wife for the wait but honestly this is exactly what I was concerned about. I wanted people who took the classes from my instructor to receive their license first, then I signed up. Don't get me wrong, my instructor was great, we followed all the rules and I thought he was great before I took the class too. I just didn't want to end up holding a worthless piece of paper. I find no fault for those who attended an approved class by an approved instructor. I think it is crap that they get hosed when the training is revoked.
Rockdiver Posted March 31, 2014 at 11:49 PM Posted March 31, 2014 at 11:49 PM He has been down for a while now. Some of the first and worst as far as substantiated student complaints. But, But, But..... We shouldnt have any oversight. Students should not rat out their instructors. blah blah blah.....
RacerDave6 Posted March 31, 2014 at 11:58 PM Posted March 31, 2014 at 11:58 PM Rumor I heard was 230ish students.No wonder they aren't answering the phone. Thats a lot of $$ they 'should' be refunding.
pdpsc Posted April 1, 2014 at 12:34 AM Posted April 1, 2014 at 12:34 AM I bet Bass Pro is regretting associating themselves with Security Guard College. $ I'm going to open Security Guard University $
bobapunk Posted April 1, 2014 at 12:40 AM Posted April 1, 2014 at 12:40 AM Cut rate classes yield unwanted results? Color me surprised... Sent from my SGH-I747 using Tapatalk
Fidelity Academy Posted April 1, 2014 at 01:00 AM Posted April 1, 2014 at 01:00 AM meanwhile at Fidelity Academy..... permit...dingpermit...dingpermit...ding every time a bell rings.... that is to say, our students are reporting getting thier permits..and happy smiles.
TyGuy Posted April 1, 2014 at 04:41 AM Posted April 1, 2014 at 04:41 AM Looks like people who did their training with Security Guard College are being DENIED At least I did after checking the status of my application today. Any one else out there with the same issue? I keep calling the place but all I get is their voicmail. Looks like its gonna start all over after I get my training somewhere else. I think there was a warning about Security Guard College doing improper training in these forums a long time ago. http://illinoiscarry.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=42821
RacerDave6 Posted April 1, 2014 at 06:43 PM Posted April 1, 2014 at 06:43 PM Their Facebook page is starting to implode now. Sent from my LG-P769 using Tapatalk
BIGDEESUL Posted April 1, 2014 at 07:33 PM Posted April 1, 2014 at 07:33 PM Just spoke with a student a couple hours ago who had their training from James Andel at Security Guard College. He contacted me seeking training, and explained what happened. Scumbag had his creds pulled anf now all his students are screwed. I'm training him for free. He's also active duty military, so trying to help out as much as possible. Wash your hands after using the facilitlies. You dont want to get pink eye.
BIGDEESUL Posted April 1, 2014 at 07:35 PM Posted April 1, 2014 at 07:35 PM Does anybody know if there's a class action lawsuit against those scumbags yet? Wash your hands after using the facilitlies. You dont want to get pink eye.
Zia Son Posted April 1, 2014 at 07:41 PM Posted April 1, 2014 at 07:41 PM I would also suggest that if any of these students who were denied pay with their credit card, call up Visa/MasterCard/etc and initiate a chargeback to get their money back.
toyotabb Posted April 1, 2014 at 07:49 PM Posted April 1, 2014 at 07:49 PM Already called the credit card company in seek of my funds. They are just requesting proof of denial from lack of training so I faxed of them a screen shot of the isp page and they are proceeding to collect the funds. James nra creds have been also stripped from what im finding out. Granted they existed to begin with. Bigdeesul, I do think their shall be a suit filed. I missed days of work to take class. Lost cash times 2 and all for notta.
jolebole Posted April 1, 2014 at 08:06 PM Posted April 1, 2014 at 08:06 PM I got screwed too. Along with bunch of my friends who are p***** as heck. Haven't received an official letter from ISP yet. Keep us posted with any news guys. Thanks! Sent from my SGH-T999 using Tapatalk
jolebole Posted April 1, 2014 at 08:08 PM Posted April 1, 2014 at 08:08 PM Also tried to do a dispute with Paypal since that was the method of payment, but Paypal wont escalate to a claim since its been more then 45days from the day of the transaction. Will try to call Paypal today and see what they say. Sent from my SGH-T999 using Tapatalk
toyotabb Posted April 1, 2014 at 08:18 PM Posted April 1, 2014 at 08:18 PM Odds are of a refund are probably slim sadly.
jolebole Posted April 1, 2014 at 08:29 PM Posted April 1, 2014 at 08:29 PM Odds are of a refund are probably slim sadly. I'm prepared for that. I hope when I redo the course and the application ISP wont give me any hard time. I already have UT and FL from another training. My fault for not doing more research on them.
mbrich Posted April 1, 2014 at 08:29 PM Posted April 1, 2014 at 08:29 PM Also tried to do a dispute with Paypal since that was the method of payment, but Paypal wont escalate to a claim since its been more then 45days from the day of the transaction. Will try to call Paypal today and see what they say. Sent from my SGH-T999 using Tapatalk How did you pay thru paypal? Did you pay with a card, bank account, or paypal balance?
jolebole Posted April 1, 2014 at 08:34 PM Posted April 1, 2014 at 08:34 PM Also tried to do a dispute with Paypal since that was the method of payment, but Paypal wont escalate to a claim since its been more then 45days from the day of the transaction. Will try to call Paypal today and see what they say. Sent from my SGH-T999 using Tapatalk How did you pay thru paypal? Did you pay with a card, bank account, or paypal balance? Paypal is linked to my debit card. I will visit my bank tomorrow..good thinkin. Thanks.
mbrich Posted April 1, 2014 at 08:54 PM Posted April 1, 2014 at 08:54 PM If you paid with your debit card, it likely went thru as a Visa or MasterCard, and not as a true debit. Therefore you may have protection there. Good luck, let us know how that turns out.
bobapunk Posted April 1, 2014 at 09:06 PM Posted April 1, 2014 at 09:06 PM This is a terrible situation. I thought from the get go that numerous warning signs, bells, whistles, etc were going off about this "training company"...? I guess there were quite a few people who were looking to save a few bucks instead of paying a little more for quality... Just know this, you are not alone. I am still getting people in classes who took the "training" over a year ago; yes, you read that right...
pdpsc Posted April 1, 2014 at 10:29 PM Posted April 1, 2014 at 10:29 PM If Bass Pro were wise, they would refund all 327 people by gift card as an apology for "endorsing" this training company by association. One would assume that a trainer who was associated with Bass Pro would be legit. It's a drop in the buck for Bass Pro, but would yield huge public relations and publicity points with the victims of this fraudster.
bhee321 Posted April 1, 2014 at 10:36 PM Posted April 1, 2014 at 10:36 PM I along with a few friends and friends of friends are planning a class action lawsuit. My friend was told by a Sgt at the isp that he should contact the states attorneys office. I will keep all you guys posted on any progress that we make. Cause even though there were over 300 denied I know there are a lot more who have taken the course but not yet applied. Sent from my SM-N900V using Tapatalk
temporary Posted April 1, 2014 at 11:00 PM Author Posted April 1, 2014 at 11:00 PM I got a call back from the manager at Bass Pro in Bollingbrook where I took the class, he said that he is just starting to hear about this and will investigate this further by getting in touch with ISP.
toyotabb Posted April 1, 2014 at 11:47 PM Posted April 1, 2014 at 11:47 PM Ok guys. I have a lot of info on the issue. I will post more and pictures from my recon and some background info on James as soon as I hit the computer. I'm leaving the 3rd place he's supposed to located. I will also send all the info to bass pro manager. I'm awaiting a call now.
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