Obama's Gun Ban List Is Out

[RichardM]

Obama's Gun Ban List Is Out

Alan Korwin - Author Gun Laws Of America

GunLaws.com

3-12-9

 

Here it is, folks, and it is bad news. The framework for legislation is always laid, and the Democrats have the votes to pass anything they want to impose upon us. They really do not believe you need anything more than a brick to defend your home and family. Look at the list and see how many you own. Remember, it is registration, then confiscation. It has happened in the UK, in Australia, in Europe, in China, and what they have found is that for some reason the criminals do not turn in their weapons, but will know that you did.

 

Remember, the first step in establishing a dictatorship is to disarm the citizens.

 

Gun-ban list proposed. Slipping below the radar (or under the short-term memory cap), the Democrats have already leaked a gun-ban list, even under the Bush administration when they knew full well it had no chance of passage (HR 1022, 110th Congress). It serves as a framework for the new list the Brady's plan to introduce shortly. I have an outline of the Brady's current plans and targets of opportunity. It's horrific. They're going after the courts, regulatory agencies, firearms dealers and statutes in an all out effort to restrict we the people. They've made little mention of criminals. Now more than ever, attention to the entire Bill of Rights is critical. Gun bans will impact our freedoms under search and seizure, due process, confiscated property, states' rights, free speech, right to assemble and more, in addition to the Second Amendment. The Democrats current gun-ban-list proposal (final list will be worse):

 

Rifles (or copies or duplicates):

M1 Carbine,

Sturm Ruger Mini-14,

AR-15,

Bushmaster XM15,

Armalite M15,

AR-10,

Thompson 1927,

Thompson M1;

AK,

AKM,

AKS,

AK-47,

AK-74,

ARM,

MAK90,

NHM 90,

NHM 91,

SA 85,

SA 93,

VEPR;

Olympic Arms PCR;

AR70,

Calico Liberty ,

Dragunov SVD Sniper Rifle or Dragunov SVU,

Fabrique National FN/FAL,

FN/LAR, or FNC,

Hi-Point20Carbine,

HK-91,

HK-93,

HK-94,

HK-PSG-1,

Thompson 1927 Commando,

Kel-Tec Sub Rifle;

Saiga,

SAR-8,

SAR-4800,

SKS with detachable magazine,

SLG 95,

SLR 95 or 96,

Steyr AU,

Tavor,

Uzi,

Galil and Uzi Sporter,

Galil Sporter, or Galil Sniper Rifle ( Galatz ).

Pistols (or copies or duplicates):

Calico M-110,

MAC-10,

MAC-11, or MPA3,

Olympic Arms OA,

TEC-9,

TEC-DC9,

TEC-22 Scorpion, or AB-10,

Uzi.

Shotguns (or copies or duplicates):

Armscor 30 BG,

SPAS 12 or LAW 12,

Striker 12,

Streetsweeper. Catch-all category (for anything missed or new designs):

A semiautomatic rifle that accepts a detachable magazine and has:

(i) a folding or telescoping stock,

(ii) a threaded barrel,

(iii) a pistol grip (which includes ANYTHING that can serve as a grip, see

below),

(iv) a forward grip; or a barrel shroud.

Any semiautomatic rifle with a fixed magazine that can accept more than

10 rounds (except tubular magazine .22 rim fire rifles).

A semiautomatic pistol that has the ability to accept a

detachable magazine, and has:

(i) a second pistol grip,

(ii) a threaded barrel,

(iii) a barrel shroud or

(iv) can accept a detachable magazine outside of the pistol grip, and

(v) a semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10

rounds.

A semiautomatic shotgun with:

(i) a folding or telescoping stock,

(ii) a pistol grip (see definition below),

(iii) the ability to accept a detachable magazine or a fixed magazine capacity

of more than 5 rounds, and

(iv) a shotgun with a revolving cylinder.

Frames or receivers for the above are included, along with conversion kits.

Attorney General gets carte blanche to ban guns at will: Under the proposal, the U.S. Attorney General can add any "semiautomatic rifle or shotgun originally designed for military or law enforcement use, or a firearm based on the design of such a firearm, that is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, as determined by the Attorney General."

 

 

Note that Obama's pick for this office, Eric Holder, wrote a brief in the Heller case supporting the position that you have no right to have a working firearm in your own home. In making this determination, the bill says, "there shall be a rebuttable presumption that a firearm procured for use by the United States military or any law enforcement agency is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, and a shall not be determined to be particularly suitable for sporting purposes solely because the firearm is suitable for use in a sporting event." In plain English this means that ANY firearm ever obtained by federal officers or the military is not suitable for the public.

 

 

The last part is particularly clever, stating that a firearm doesn't have a sporting purpose just because it can be used for sporting purpose -- is that devious or what? And of course, "sporting purpose" is a rights infringement with no constitutional or historical support whatsoever, invented by domestic enemies of the right to keep and bear arms to further their cause of disarming the innocent.

 

Respectfully submitted, Alan Korwin, Author Gun Laws of America http://www.gunlaws.com/gloa.htm

 

Forward or send to every gun owner you know...

Watch This, If You Want More Proof:

YouTube - CNN- Obama To BAN Guns SPREAD THIS FOLKS, PLZ!

 

A partial list of gun rights groups:

 

Gun Owners of America

http://gunowners.org/

 

Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership

http://www.jpfo.org/

 

FREEDOM=GUNS

http://www.tcsn.net/doncicci/freedom.htm

 

National Rifle Association

http://www.nra.org/

 

Second Amendment Committee

http://www.libertygunrights.com/

 

Second Amendment Foundation

http://www.saf.org/

 

Second Amendment Sisters

http://www.2asisters.org/

 

Women Against Gun Control

http://www.wagc.com/

[cowboyflyfisher]

Those deadly telescoping stocks. I'm gonna sue Obama when I have an aneurysm over this!

[Slappy]

That reads verbatim like the cook county AWB of 2006 and my shopping list for the next few years...

[hotpig27]

They forgot Redrider Air Guns & Cap Pistols.

[TTIN]

If this passes,I guess you can call me a criminal...to add to the other names people call me!

[1957Human]

"...

originally designed for military or law enforcement use

, or a firearm based on the design of such a firearm, that is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes."

Dick Durbin wants to ban all ammo that fits this description as well. When that happens, we're truly be in deep doo doo, for even if your AR is grandfathered in, you won't be able to own its feed.

[GWBH]

"...

originally designed for military or law enforcement use

, or a firearm based on the design of such a firearm, that is not particularly

suitable for sporting purposes

."

Dick Durbin wants to ban all ammo that fits this description as well. When that happens, we're truly be in deep doo doo, for even if your AR is grandfathered in, you won't be able to own its feed.

 

As the SCOTUS upheld in the Heller Decision - the 2A is about personal protection and the individual's right to keep and bear arms. A "Sporting Purposes" statement was not cited in the decision.

Are weapons for law enforcement designed for drive-by shootings, sporting purposes - or self defense?

Oh I know - this is common sense; which of course, cannot be found in the liberal mind.

[Druid]

"I believe in the Second Amendment, I believe in the people's lawful right to bear arms. I will not take your shotgun away. I will not take your rifle away. I won't take your handgun away."

 

-- Barack Obama,

 

September 2008

[jobes]

The video says it all. Someone save it before it disappears and they say it never existed

 

[cowboyflyfisher]

"I believe in the Second Amendment, I believe in the people's lawful right to bear arms. I will not take your shotgun away. I will not take your rifle away. I won't take your handgun away."

 

-- Barack Obama,

 

September 2008

He'll just reasonably restrict your shotgun, rifle, and handgun. What is reasonable in a liberal's mind? How can a liberal decide what is and isn't reasonable when it is about a topic of which they have no knowledge? Furthermore, If a liberal mind cannot reason, how do they know what reasonable is in the first place?

[Druid]

When I was at IGOLD, I got to sit down and meet personally with my state rep, who's an anti-gun Democrat. He told me that he would support what he felt were "good" gun laws, but not "bans".

 

What's a "good" gun law to a liberal? Who knows. I think it's everything they are trying to pass right now.

[Silver Guardian]

When I was at IGOLD, I got to sit down and meet personally with my state rep, who's an anti-gun Democrat. He told me that he would support what he felt were "good" gun laws, but not "bans".

 

What's a "good" gun law to a liberal? Who knows. I think it's everything they are trying to pass right now.

 

Shame you didn't get specifics out of him. "Good" to anyone is doing what they "feel" is right. So just taking a stab here, he'd be in favor of "feelgood" laws, which in all practicality are useless and stupid.

[lordjoker1977]

Wow, I showed this to my 8 year old daughter, whom I must say is more educated about firearms than many, and her exact words were "That's stupid, if you've got your FOID (she is an Illinois baby after all) you should be able to own any of those." Ah, the knowledge of children is greater than politicians.

[Druid]

Shame you didn't get specifics out of him. "Good" to anyone is doing what they "feel" is right. So just taking a stab here, he'd be in favor of "feelgood" laws, which in all practicality are useless and stupid.

 

The only specifics I got were:

-HB48 (private sales through a gun dealer), good (he's currently a co-sponsor).

-Conceal Carry, maybe (he said he would look into reading a John Lott book).

-Gun Ban, bad.

 

But I'm not holding my breath that he will vote in any way that will please me.

 

Also, he (Michael J. Zalewski) asked me if I knew Todd Vandermyde, one of our lobbyist down there. Apparently, Todd has been talking to him trying to get him on our side.

 

Zalewski is a young new kid on the block down there. This is his first term. I hope we can get him to vote for at least a few of our issues. He says that his uncle is very much into guns, but that he doesn't know much about them.

[ewellnitz]

This is the same list that has been circulating for months. It is the pre-caned legislation wish list of the Brady Campaign.

[asfried1]

Rifles (or copies or duplicates):

M1 Carbine,

 

So let me get this straight. The United States Government sells me my M1 Carbine via the Civilian Marksmanship Program. The United States Government sells me the ammunition for my M1 Carbine. And now the United States Government is considering banning my M1 Carbine - and it's first on their list??

 

Do I get a refund? Or is this just another taxation scheme (you know - sell and confiscate, resell and confiscate again, and again....).

[papa]

Well if they think I will giveup my Kimber ( because it is a military design ) , they don't know me very well.

 

I believe there would be lots of problems if this were to be passed.

[moparcardave]

Well if they think I will giveup my Kimber ( because it is a military design ) , they don't know me very well.

 

I believe there would be lots of problems if this were to be passed.

c

Guess that means even a Remington 700 ie. M24 sniper rifle or even the Model 70 Winchester both sniper rifles, both common hunting rifles would be on the list. Humm, Colt revolvers, 1911, flintlocks and whatever they want. I guess we just need to remind Holder and remind Glenn Beck of this video. I wish they would publish who is doing all this killing with these weapons?

[GWBH]

I didn't see the Sig Arms 556 on the list - but no doubt it would fall into the "catch all" of telescoping stock, detachable mag, etc.

The dreaded and very deadly "bayonet lug" was not mentioned as a defining cosmetic description.

[Hossua]

"I believe in the Second Amendment, I believe in the people's lawful right to bear arms. I will not take your shotgun away. I will not take your rifle away. I won't take your handgun away."

 

-- Barack Obama,

 

September 2008

He won't personally take them away, he'll let someone else do that for him.

[BushRat]

Is there any solid evidence for the new AWB (HB or SB) or is this just speculation ?

[Kenny]

MOLON LABE!!!!!