be careful what you say

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> Last month at a VA med visit, they asked me exactly the same questions

> and I asked them why they never asked them before and their answer was

> that it is a new policy that they must ask all vets!

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> From a Vietnam Vet and retired Police Officer:

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> I had a doctors appointment at the local VA clinic yesterday and

> found out something very interesting that I would like to pass along.

> While going through triage before seeing the doctor, I was asked at

> the end of the exam, three questions:

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> 1. Did I feel stressed?

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> 2. Did I feel threatened?

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> 3. Did I feel like doing harm to someone?

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> The nurse then informed me that if I had answered yes to any of the

> questions I would have lost my concealed carry permit as it would

> have gone into my medical records, and the VA would have reported it

> to Homeland Security. Looks like they are going after the vets first.

> Other gun people like retired law enforcement will probably be next.

> Then when they go after the civilians, what argument will they have?

> Be forewarned and be aware. The Obama administration has gone on

> record as considering veterans and gun owners potential terrorists.

> Whether you are a gun owner veteran or not, you've been warned. If you

> know veterans and gun owners, please pass this on to them. Be very

> cautious about what you say and to whom!

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[gingersnap1170]

Everyone feels stress, the other two questions.... As a nurse I kind of get it, but if someone did feel like hurting someone else are they really going to admit it? Mental health screenings are important, but they need to be carefully worded and free of judgment, not targeting one specific population. Our vets are treated so terribly, it makes me so sad.

[Federal Farmer]

Everyone feels stress, the other two questions.... As a nurse I kind of get it, but if someone did feel like hurting someone else are they really going to admit it? Mental health screenings are important, but they need to be carefully worded and free of judgment, not targeting one specific population. Our vets are treated so terribly, it makes me so sad.

 

 

This kind of thing has an unintended consequence as well. I will never tell any doctor that I feel anything other than happy.

[Nomad]

Hey, uh... is this a chain letter/spam or is this for real?

[BobbyT]

Hey, uh... is this a chain letter/spam or is this for real?

 

The formatting certainly doesn't help. You guys could at least take the 5 seconds to clean up the line breaks and remove the brackets so it doesn't look like a copy/pasted AOL chain letter from 1996.

 

My cousin's a marine, and has told me their debriefing process has become so PC-trial-lawyered that they basically can't say anything. When he came back over, he had to give straight "no"s to everything, otherwise you get tagged with the PTSD label. He wasn't PTSD or anything close to it, is one of the most balanced and level-headed guys I know, but it was still a stressful trip. There must be a ton of guys who could benefit from a talk from someone who's been in the same situation, but they're going to keep their lips sealed because they don't want to have some overlawyered bureaucrat slap them with a whackjob designation.

[Buzzard]

> .......Looks like they are going after the vets first.

> Other gun people like retired law enforcement will probably be next.

> Then when they go after the civilians, what argument will they have?

 

 

I started getting asked the question, "Do you you feel safe in your home?" when I changed doctors about a year ago. I was told it's something they are REQUIRED to ask. The same question is asked and my answer (Yes) is entered in the computer during every visit. And I'm NOT a veteran.

 

Remember...back before Obamacare was strong armed through Congress....a smaller bill was passed that few people paid attention to. It was centered around gathering health care records into a national database. It passed easily in Congress because know one squawked.

 

You just have to figure - if the Democrats want it....it's about controlling the masses.

 

Thanks alot swing voters.

[gingersnap1170]

Some people don't feel safe in their own home. I have had several women answer yes to that question who are being abused by a spouse.

 

 

 

> .......Looks like they are going after the vets first.

> Other gun people like retired law enforcement will probably be next.

> Then when they go after the civilians, what argument will they have?

 

 

I started getting asked the question, "Do you you feel safe in your home?" when I changed doctors about a year ago. I was told it's something they are REQUIRED to ask. The same question is asked and my answer (Yes) is entered in the computer during every visit. And I'm NOT a veteran.

 

Remember...back before Obamacare was strong armed through Congress....a smaller bill was passed that few people paid attention to. It was centered around gathering health care records into a national database. It passed easily in Congress because know one squawked.

 

You just have to figure - if the Democrats want it....it's about controlling the masses.

 

Thanks alot swing voters.

[lockman]

Everyone feels stress, the other two questions.... As a nurse I kind of get it, but if someone did feel like hurting someone else are they really going to admit it? Mental health screenings are important, but they need to be carefully worded and free of judgment, not targeting one specific population. Our vets are treated so terribly, it makes me so sad.

 

This kind of thing has an unintended consequence as well. I will never tell any doctor that I feel anything other than happy.

 

If you answer that FF to all questions they will lock you up! And you would be happy!

[Air Commando]

Hey, uh... is this a chain letter/spam or is this for real?

 

The formatting certainly doesn't help. You guys could at least take the 5 seconds to clean up the line breaks and remove the brackets so it doesn't look like a copy/pasted AOL chain letter from 1996.

 

My cousin's a marine, and has told me their debriefing process has become so PC-trial-lawyered that they basically can't say anything. When he came back over, he had to give straight "no"s to everything, otherwise you get tagged with the PTSD label. He wasn't PTSD or anything close to it, is one of the most balanced and level-headed guys I know, but it was still a stressful trip. There must be a ton of guys who could benefit from a talk from someone who's been in the same situation, but they're going to keep their lips sealed because they don't want to have some overlawyered bureaucrat slap them with a whackjob designation.

 

 

A lot of guys actually go to the Chaplain because whatever is said there has to stay with the Chaplain unless you plan to do harm.

[SheepleNoMore]

The questions are real and they do get asked by the VA. The nurse asked those questions last friday. The system is rigged so we can't win.

[SFC Stu]

The questions are real and they do get asked by the VA. The nurse asked those questions last friday. The system is rigged so we can't win.

 

My answer, "Yes, I feel safe in my home and anywhere else I'm at". "I carry a firearm 24/7 and I know how to use it". But, I live in Missouri by choice! I am a veteran.

[Xwing]

How could they take away your rights for answering “yes” to question 1? Just about everyone feels stressed. And for question 2? If you feel threatened, wouldn’t you have even more need to have the ability to defend yourself? Maybe the person lives in a bad neighborhood and has been threatened by drug dealers.

 

The sad fact is crap like this is what makes it impossible to ever answer the truth to a government employee. If someone is in a bad or stressful situation, their only recourse is to lie.