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On 9/19/2023 at 7:36 PM, impressivechoice said:
Police and anyone listed in section 2 are still completely exempt. Private security, military and people listed in section 3 are not required to register firearms used in offical duty. But required to register personal firearms.
Thanks for the clarification.
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On 9/19/2023 at 4:14 PM, Dumak_from_arfcom said:
I'm almost laughing.
I know a few individuals who believed they were completely exempt and supported the law because it wouldn't affect them.
So the state's word is as good as it's financial situation? Go figure.
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On 9/19/2023 at 12:56 PM, steveTA84 said:
Exempt people have to register personally owned weapons that are not part of their job? Interesting….
Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Wasn't the fact that there would be "exempts" used as a selling point when this was passed?
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On 9/18/2023 at 11:48 PM, Flynn said:
Every day I see Tweet after Tweet of people who could not pass an 8th-grade civics class, these surveys are no different, our national education system is an utter failure on so many levels...
People ignorant of their rights (and the constitutional protections thereof) are easier to control.
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On 9/14/2023 at 5:18 PM, steveTA84 said:
A lot of the country is still waiting for you to confess to your ignorance of (or more likely disregard for) the Constitution.
In the meantime, thanks for bringing to the forefront the problem of elected officials using "emergency powers" in a dictatorial manner. Especially as it involves abrogating clearly enumerated rights.
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On 9/13/2023 at 5:36 PM, mauserme said:
Illinois e-News Release
For Immediate ReleaseSeptember 13, 2023Contacts:Rachel Otwell(email redacted)Patrick Laughlin(email redacted)Gov. Pritzker Appoints Quiwana Bell as Assistant Secretary of Firearm Violence Prevention
SPRINGFIELD - Further bolstering Illinois’ commitment to ending firearm violence, Governor JB Pritzker today announced new leadership for the Office of Firearm Violence Prevention (OFVP), a statewide initiative housed within the Illinois Department of Human Services (IDHS).“It’s my pleasure to appoint Quiwana Bell as Assistant Secretary of Firearm Violence Prevention,” said Governor JB Pritzker. “As Chief Development Officer at Westside Health Authority, Quiwana grew the organization’s capacity exponentially during her tenure—now serving 15,000 people a year through re-entry, youth development, and crisis intervention programs. She’s a pillar of the community, and her work to prevent violence in Illinois is more than a professional experience – it’s her personal calling.”The OFVP was established as part of the Reimagine Public Safety Act (RPSA), which was signed into law by Gov. Pritzker in 2021. The Act calls for a comprehensive approach to reducing firearm violence through community investments to address root causes and provide those most at-risk with access to evidence-based and trauma-informed services.“As we say in restorative justice spaces, ‘the wisdom is in the room,’ meaning those closest to the problems, are often closest to the solutions,” said Lt. Governor Juliana Stratton. “I have the privilege of leading the Justice, Equity, and Opportunity (JEO) Initiative and welcome Quiwana Bell in her new role. Governor Pritzker and I look forward to working in partnership with Quiwana and the OFVP to address trauma and other harmful effects that gun violence has on communities throughout the state.”The Office, which has been funding violence prevention programming since early 2022, is working to reduce firearm violence rates across Illinois, while improving access to education, employment, and other critical services for communities with the highest rates of violence. The OFVP has committed over $215 million in funding to 170 community-based organizations across Illinois who are doing this critical work.Of the RPSA communities with the highest rates of firearm victimization during January through June of 2022, 80% have seen declines in 2023.“I am deeply grateful that Quiwana Bell will soon take leadership of our efforts to address this ongoing and challenging public health crisis,” said Grace B. Hou, Secretary, Illinois Department of Human Services. “She will bring a wealth of wisdom to the table and help IDHS and the State gain ground in the fight to end gun violence in Chicago and throughout Illinois.”Bell steps into the role of Assistant Secretary of Firearm Violence Prevention on October 1. Previously, she was the Chief Development Officer for the Westside Health Authority, a non-profit community development organization serving the residents of Chicago’s Austin, East and West Garfield Park, and Lawndale neighborhoods.“It’s a great honor to have the opportunity to lead this office in the critical task of combatting firearm violence in Illinois and to build on the success it’s already created in connecting with historically disinvested communities,” said incoming Assistant Secretary of Firearm Violence Prevention, Quiwana Bell. “I look forward to working with communities across Illinois to form comprehensive, innovative, and inclusive solutions to reduce the trauma and loss experienced from gun violence and to enhance public safety and overall well-being.”“I am looking forward to partnering with Ms. Bell in her new role as the Assistant Secretary for the Office of Firearm Violence Prevention to address the root causes of gun violence as a public health issue, which requires a comprehensive approach and long-term investment in the generational healing and wellness of Black and Brown communities across Illinois,” said State Senator Robert Peters (D-Chicago).“I am excited to collaborate with Ms. Bell to uplift and invest in communities across Illinois that are disproportionately impacted by gun violence,” said State Representative Justin Slaughter (D-Chicago). “Together, we will continue to work to reimagine what public safety means in Illinois, invest in our youth, and promote healing and restoration for families and communities.”Has there not been any "investment" in these communities to this point?
How about "re-imagining" arresting, prosecuting, and incarcerating the criminals running amok in Chicago?
I'm just sayin'.
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On 9/13/2023 at 4:01 PM, Upholder said:
I admire the man's fidelity to the Constitution and SCOTUS precedent.
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On 9/12/2023 at 5:58 PM, Upholder said:
Five of the cases (all except Springer v Grisham) have been scheduled for a TRO Motion hearing tomorrow at 1pm in front of District Judge David H. Urias.
Biden nominee. This should be interesting.
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On 9/12/2023 at 4:34 PM, Flynn said:
This is going to get more interesting, the lawsuits are suing her in both official and individual capacities, so she has to defend herself or face a default judgment against her and the state that could be millions upon millions upon millions under the stripped qualified immunity laws they just recently passed...
What would be really interesting is if the NM state AG sued the governor to recover any judgement against the state.
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On 9/12/2023 at 9:29 AM, steveTA84 said:
She even got cooked by CNN this morning. She also admitted she’s doing this (banning CCW and imposing fines on those who don’t abide) to defy the Bruen and Dobbs decision. It’s an activist stunt on her part. Removal from office isn’t enough. Imprisonment at minimum, a much harsher sentence at best. No government official should ever be able to do this again and she needs to be made an example out of. Deprivation of rights is a very serious crime
What she calls "narrow readings" are the law of the land.
Article 6, Clause 2 Governor.
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Just another good reason for a gun safe with a dial on the front of it.
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So, to reiterate:
The Constitution establishes the federal government, and also sets limits on it's powers. Further, Article 6, Clause 2 establishes the Federal Constitution as the "supreme Law of the Land". In other words, it takes precedence over state constitutions.
The governor of New Mexico (hereafter "the governor") has taken an oath to support the Constitution of the United States.
The governor has stated that her oath to the Constitution is not absolute. But it is by that same Constitution...and not some monarch's supposed divine right...that she ultimately exercises power.
Therefore, the emergency power that the governor claims to (but does not) have is, in her mind, allowed by a document that she plainly states she doesn't respect or feel legally bound by.
But how then can she have this authority, if the Constitution is not legally binding?
You can't make this stuff up.
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On 9/9/2023 at 6:44 PM, steveTA84 said:
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/the-new-mexico-governors-suspension-of-the-right-to-keep-and-bear-arms-is-both-illegal-and-stupid/amp/
The governor says she doesn’t expect criminals to follow the order. But she hopes it is “a resounding message,” to everyone else in the community to report gun crime. “The point here is, is that, if everyone did it, and I wasn’t legally challenged, you would have fewer risks on the street, and I could safely say, to every New Mexican, particularly those folks living in Albuquerque and Bernalillo County, I believe that you’re safer for the next 30 days, we have to wait and see,” said Lujan Grisham.So....if the criminals aren't going to follow the order, how is the community made safer?
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On 9/9/2023 at 6:14 PM, steveTA84 said:
She knows it won’t do anything to curb crime and even admitted that criminals will ignore it. It’s to target legal gun owners. Nothing more
And to pump up her Leftist bona fides. Of course, targeting legal gun owners does precisely that.
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When these individuals declare that no Amendment to the Constitution is absolute (or in this case, the governor says that her oath isn't absolute....which in itself is an incredibly stupid statement), I want to ask them how they feel about the 13th.
Legal challenges are apparently in the works.
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On 9/9/2023 at 5:38 AM, Flynn said:
One article I read said that only the state police would be enforcing this, with the city/county police proclaiming they are going to focus on actual crimes...
What people should be terrified of is that if they are allowed to suspend the 2nd for health reasons then rights are no longer rights and any right can all be suspended by declaration...
We need to understand that there are those of the "political class" that would like precisely that.
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On 8/24/2023 at 9:48 AM, yurimodin said:
and most of the ppl here are looking at possible felonies in 4 months.
Bush V. Gore was decided 12/12/2000, less than four weeks before the Electoral College was to meet.
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On 8/21/2023 at 4:59 PM, Dumak_from_arfcom said:
Justice ACB took the appeal and the SCOTUS declined to intervene in the stay of the injunction. The SCOTUS could have looked at the entire law and made a final ruling right then.
Probably the most famous case of a SCOTUS intervention was when the SCOTUS took the Florida election case in 2000.
IIRC, the time before counting and certifying the Electoral College vote was pretty short in that case.
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Given their obvious....and vigorous....efforts to combat crime in the Chicago/Cook area, we can be certain that harassing law abiding gun owners is the last thing on the Democrats' minds.
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On 8/13/2023 at 10:11 PM, Euler said:
The 7th Circuit has not announced any decision yet. The defendants may file judicial notice of the state supreme court decision, i.e., they would like the 7th Circuit to rule based on the precedent that the state court may set, but the federal courts are not bound by state precedent.
Hard to see the 7th Circuit using a state precedent that clearly (per the state court itself) doesn't touch on the 2A issues.
Not saying the state wouldn't try, of course.
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On 8/11/2023 at 12:21 PM, steveTA84 said:
Caulkins answered that today, because it would have been transferred to federal court right off the bat and he wanted to keep it in state court
Because he wanted to challenge the state on the way it does it's legislative business....correct?
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If advances in firearms aren't protected by the 2A (and of course they are), then advances in media technology aren't protected by the 1A.
And that is a ridiculous proposition.
Duncan v Becerra - CA mag ban (continued)
in Judicial Second Amendment Case Discussion
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For those that maintain a prayer list, Judge Benitez would be a good name to add.