ICHV -- acting as nothing has changed

[GarandFan]

This is from "GunGuys" ... link omitted purposefully.

 

Note the list of new laws they will work to pass, and that they are confident of their constitutionality. Methinks these guys will need to adapt, or they will become extinct. I think that the denial from these guys is the strongest I have seen yet. At least the VPC (another Joyce-funded group) sees the writing on the wall.

 

 

 

Supreme Court Stills Holds that Common Sense Gun Laws Are Constitutional and Can Be Enacted to Save Lives and Protect Communities

 

Contact:

Thom Mannard, Executive Director, ICHV tmannard@ichv.org

Scott Vogel, Communications Director, States United to Prevent Gun Violence scott@supgv.org

 

(June 28, 2010, Chicago) – The Supreme Court extended the scope of the Second Amendment today in McDonald v. City of Chicago, and remanded Chicago's handgun ban back to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 7th Circuit for further review. It appeared that the city's 28-year-old handgun ban will likely be struck down. The challenge to Chicago's handgun ban was filed immediately after the Supreme Court stripped the District of Columbia's own handgun ban in its Heller decision in 2008.

 

Thom Mannard, Executive Director of the Illinois Council Against Handgun Violence issued the following statement:

 

“Despite the Supreme Court's ruling today it is absolutely important to emphasize that the conservative majority held that strong and effective gun laws are still constitutional and can be enacted.

 

"While we fundamentally disagree with the Court, today's decision is a major opportunity to move away from the narrow, divisive and ideological debate over the interpretation of the Second Amendment and instead work to pass common sense gun laws that will save lives and protect our communities.

 

“We believe this ruling affirms a host of effective laws and viable solutions to preventing gun violence. The Court's opinion clearly allows for requiring background checks on all gun sales, restricting carrying loaded guns in public, mandating gun owners to register firearms and undergo training, allowing states and municipalities to license gun dealers, regulating military-style semiautomatic assault weapons, enacting waiting periods, limiting gun sales per month, and forcing gun manufacturers to employ “microstamping” technology on all new gun sales, among other measures. Furthermore, we are confident that when the gun lobby litigates and challenges these policies the courts will ultimately uphold the constitutionality of these gun laws.

 

“The debate over Chicago’s handgun ban is not, and never was, an abstract legal argument, but about the right of the city of Chicago and other municipalities to enact sensible solutions to keep deadly guns out of our communities. The truth is that, based on overwhelming research, allowing Chicago's residents to possess handguns will dramatically increase the risk of gun suicides, students gaining access to handguns and likely carrying them to school, and certainly unintentional shootings by toddlers and children who find weapons. Chicago was right to enact its handgun ban in 1982, and Mayor Richard Daley was justified in ardently defending the law.

 

“Our country continues to have misplaced priorities when it comes to violence and security. As a comparison, after nine years of fighting the war in Afghanistan, the U.S. military death toll reached the grim 1,000 mark. In Illinois alone, the same number of people die every year from gun violence.

 

"Every year 30,000 Americans die from gun violence, 70,000 people are shot and injured, and more than 350,000 people are victims of armed robbery or aggravated assault with a firearm. This sheer scale of destroyed lives and families is a national disgrace.

 

“Finally, the Court's ruling to extend the scope of the Second Amendment has national implications. The gun lobby is using this decision to further its real agenda, that they want anyone to have any gun, anywhere, at any time – regardless of the proven risk to police and the public. Their unstated motive is to enhance the profits of the gun industry by encouraging individuals to believe they need a multitude of guns and are seeking nothing less than the complete dismantling of our nation’s gun laws for their own political and financial gain. Lawmakers in state legislatures and in Congress must utilize the Supreme Court's decision to press for common sense gun laws for the safety and security of the America people.”

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“Finally, the Court's ruling to extend the scope of the Second Amendment has national implications. The gun lobby is using this decision to further its real agenda, that they want anyone to have any gun, anywhere, at any time – regardless of the proven risk to police and the public. Their unstated motive is to enhance the profits of the gun industry by encouraging individuals to believe they need a multitude of guns and are seeking nothing less than the complete dismantling of our nation’s gun laws for their own political and financial gain. Lawmakers in state legislatures and in Congress must utilize the Supreme Court's decision to press for common sense gun laws for the safety and security of the America people.”

 

I'm not very good at expressing myself elequently so I'll just say it. This paragraph pisses me off to no end!

"they want anyone to have any gun, anywhere, at any time"

I think everyone here can agree that this is absolutely not the case. We don't think a 5 year old should be carrying a firearm on his person. We don't agree that violent criminals and the truely mental ill should possess firearms. We can live with not carrying firearms in schools though that is kind of silly.

 

"regardless of the proven risk to police and the public"

And where are those "proven risks" from say the state of Vermont where there are NO GUN LAWS?

[PPK]

We believe this ruling affirms a host of effective laws and viable solutions to preventing gun violence.

 

How about something like Project Exile? I know it's controversial but I think it's been tweaked a little as Virginia Exile.

 

have a prior conviction for a violent felony and are convicted of possessing a firearm; are convicted of possessing a firearm on school property with the intent to use it, or displaying it in a threatening manner; are convicted of possessing a firearm and Schedule I or II drugs such as cocaine or heroin, or convicted of possessing more than a pound of marijuana with the intent to sell.