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in the first 4 month Illinois was ranked #1

 

State/Territory Total Illinois 4,287,494 Kentucky 1,169,179 Indiana 851,583 Texas 756,770 Florida 670,846 Pennsylvania 561,411 California 524,243 Utah 422,644 Michigan 406,159 Alabama 376,018 Minnesota 364,282 Ohio 348,396 Georgia 340,465 Tennessee 328,112 North Carolina 323,580 Washington 278,314 Wisconsin 275,379 Virginia 258,004 Missouri 257,027 Colorado 246,211 Arizona 227,679 South Carolina 192,306 New York 176,683 Oregon 175,907 Oklahoma 164,245 Louisiana 150,983 Mississippi 124,055 Iowa 121,811 Maryland 111,365 Idaho 110,596 Arkansas 110,087 Connecticut 106,588 Massachusetts 104,502 New Jersey 98,121 West Virginia 92,488 Kansas 91,226 New Mexico 77,793 Nevada 74,995 New Hampshire 63,694 Montana 63,355 Maine 48,778 South Dakota 43,725 Nebraska 38,037 Alaska 34,933 Wyoming 32,857 North Dakota 31,490 Delaware 27,447 Puerto Rico 20,923 Vermont 20,826 Rhode Island 17,778 Hawaii 6,138 District of Columbia 4,081 Guam 1,372 Virgin Islands 690 Mariana Islands 89

 

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Those are background checks according to the article which assumes each BG. check is a sale.

 

Illinois runs every FOID holder 364 nights a year.

We are #1 in paranoia, not gun sales.

From the article

 

The Federal Bureau of Investigation tracks gun sales and publishes a list of how many are handled as part of its National Instant Criminal Background Check System. Each month, the figures are reported by state. Nearly everyone put through this system qualifies as a buyer. People who are excluded usually have criminal records. Of the more than 310 million checks that have been done since 1998, there have only been 1.5 million denials. Therefore, the data is the best proxy for U.S. gun sales available.

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If sales figures are based on background checks as a proxy, is there something unusual with how Illinois is tabulated?

I believe IL runs fewer than 364 checks per year per FOID holder, but only because NICS is down more than 1 day per year. I think it's more like 5 days per year, always on holidays to minimize impact to the public.

 

Whatever the number is, I had 350 or so checks run on me last year, and I know I didn't buy 350 or so firearms. Meanwhile someone who has a resident CCL in a state that doesn't do checks on CCL-holders (there are some) would have had zero checks run and could have bought any number of firearms.

 

The problem isn't how checks are tabulated. The problem is that checks are not a valid proxy for sales.

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Not disputing the checks by Illinois theory entirely....... but it seems everytime we have one of these threads about number of guns sold someone disputes it based on IL checking every FOID X # of times per year

 

Basic math doesnt jive with that.........

 

Lets conservatively say theres 1M FOID (which we know is WAY low) holders in IL and for sake of holiday etc argument lets very conservatively say they check 300 times per year ..... that would mean these sales numbers if based on NICS checks on FOIDs would be well over 300M guns per year (that would mean 75% of total estimated US gun ownership is sold in a single year in a single state)........ doesnt add up

 

Not saying the sales numbers are accurate....... but you absolutely can not say its totally skewed based on FOID checks.... of course IL did switch to common core math so maybe Im wrong

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4.25 million guns purchased in 4 months. Highly unlikely. 1 plus million new guns a month? Wow

I’m not sure about the FOID or any other trick up their sleeve Illinois might have. But that’s a S#’++ ton of new guns.

 

12.8 million peeps in Illinois so every person in Illinois will have a new gun purchased this year!

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Approximately 3M FOIDs and 400k CCLs last I read.

 

CNN Reports on Illinois Gun Sales and Mangles Most of the Facts

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/cnn-reports-on-illinois-gun-sales-and-mangles-most-of-the-facts/

 

Maxon Response

Bad Reporting on Illinois Gun Sales by CNN

https://www.maxonshooters.com/blog/bad-reporting-on-illinois-gun-sales-by-cnn

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Just yesterday....

I was at my mother's home and ran into one of her neighbors that is a first time gun owner...

I see a "can't find ammo moment" where I will be taking them to the range and dipping into my stash for them in my future...

(Its something I'm more than willing to do....)

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