soundguy Posted June 9, 2021 at 01:24 AM Share Posted June 9, 2021 at 01:24 AM I just wondering what all the rest of you here think. I shoot only good quality standard pressure ammo. For my High Powers it is mostly Speer 124 grain stuff. Sometimes I use their 147 grain for a somewhat softer experience, which is also quite nice in my tiny Sig P938. I have never found a reason to shoot over pressure ammo, seeing no tactical advantage and an increased cost. Plus the extra flinch factor. While I do not expect to settle this once and for all, and I am unlikely to be swayed, I am interested in what you, my esteemed IC colleagues, have to say on the subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScopeEye Posted June 9, 2021 at 01:45 AM Share Posted June 9, 2021 at 01:45 AM If your shooting +P or other hot stuff better make sure your weapon can handle it All my carry ammo is +p Gold dots and or HST, I find it more accurateI would not hesitate to use standard pressure Gold dots or HST I prefer 124 or 147 gr in 9mm and 45 acp 230 gr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragsbo Posted June 9, 2021 at 01:59 AM Share Posted June 9, 2021 at 01:59 AM Back in the day we (DOE) carried +P+ 110 grain 38 specials in our Model 686 357 magnum revolvers. Rumors were "they didn't want us having magnums". The shock wave and muzzle blast was outrageous, especially on the indoor range. The 125 grain 357 load which was the one most recommended at that time was a lot easier to handle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Liberty Posted June 9, 2021 at 02:34 AM Share Posted June 9, 2021 at 02:34 AM Absolutely yes, in my carry revolvers. Generally I carry Winchester PDX1 .38 Special +P in my SP101 or 637 Airweight, though sometimes the Airweight gets 110 grain +P Critical Defense loads. If outdoors in areas with large critters, Buffalo Bore .38 Outdoorsman loads in my SP101. I've never bothered searching out +P loads for autoloaders; my number one priority with semiautos is reliability. Max Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyP Posted June 9, 2021 at 03:16 AM Share Posted June 9, 2021 at 03:16 AM Just MY personal and honest opinion - IF it makes you 'feel better', carry +P or +P+ or ++PP++ or just any hollow point, in truth any ammo that reliably goes 'bang' will serve you quite well in the EXTREMELY remote possibility that you would ever need to use your carry handgun in an actual self-defense scenario. Also just MY personal opinion - shot placement FAR outweighs any ammo choice, including the power or caliber of said ammo. A well placed .22LR bullet creates a much greater terminal effect than a miss from a 50 BMG. YOU only gotta keep YOU happy. What I choose to use keeps ME happy, and that suffices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euler Posted June 9, 2021 at 05:01 AM Share Posted June 9, 2021 at 05:01 AM +P (at least in 9mm) is a SAAMI standard and is the NATO-standard round. +P+ is not a standard with anybody. It can be anything that anyone wants to call it. I think regular P is plenty of P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnwfan3 Posted June 9, 2021 at 05:08 AM Share Posted June 9, 2021 at 05:08 AM I only use standard pressure 124 or 147 grain ammo (HST and Gold dots). Looking at most test results, seems like a negligible difference between standard pressure and +p for expansion and penetration. I prefer less recoil for faster follow up shots. As some have said, shot placement is more important than anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydawg13 Posted June 9, 2021 at 11:23 AM Share Posted June 9, 2021 at 11:23 AM In 9mm if i need +p+ well good thing I have a 357 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRJ Posted June 9, 2021 at 12:20 PM Share Posted June 9, 2021 at 12:20 PM I've started loading 90 grain solid Lehigh bullets with 4.8 grains of titegroup. These run about 1325 fps from a 4" barrel. Perceived recoil is negligible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birddog38 Posted June 9, 2021 at 01:45 PM Share Posted June 9, 2021 at 01:45 PM Would avoid frequent +P usage in the smaller polymer pistols. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultra magnus Posted June 13, 2021 at 09:57 PM Share Posted June 13, 2021 at 09:57 PM 38 special is about the only mainstream cartridge that may sometimes benefit from a +p loading. Just about all the ideal 9, 40, and 45 is all standard pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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