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#31 mauserme

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Posted 29 May 2021 - 01:41 PM

The bill is returned to 2nd reading.

 

Ms. Willis offers Floor Amend 1.



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Posted 29 May 2021 - 01:42 PM

Ms. Willis moves adoption of the amendment, and it is adopted.  Back to 3rd reading.



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Posted 29 May 2021 - 01:43 PM

Rep Hirschauer takes over.



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Posted 29 May 2021 - 01:44 PM

Once again, she applies lipstick to her pig.



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Posted 29 May 2021 - 01:45 PM

I hope there are suits ready if this passes


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Posted 29 May 2021 - 01:45 PM

Back to the prepared script on how bad guns are.



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Posted 29 May 2021 - 01:47 PM

Person to person background check loophole? It’s already law LOFL

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Posted 29 May 2021 - 01:47 PM

She says that her bill will make it harder for mass shooters to get guns.

 

She fails to explain that it will make it harder for anyone to get guns.

 

She now claims to know what every member of the House knows about "gun violence".



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Posted 29 May 2021 - 01:50 PM

Representative Keith Wheeler requests a vote verification.  It is granted.

 

Mr. Wheeler continues by asking if the bill is a little bit of many bills.  The sponsor answers in the affirmative.

 

He asks if it would require fingerprints for new and renewal applications.  She doesn't know the answer, then answers only once after being coached.

 

She also doesn't know how many FOID cards there are in the state.



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Posted 29 May 2021 - 01:51 PM

She is painfully ignorant of not just gun laws, but specifics of her own bill.

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Posted 29 May 2021 - 01:52 PM

Mr. Wheeler asks if it is correct the 2.2 Million FOID card holders must now submit prints to exercise a right.  She answers with a lower number, still in the millions, because of existing prints.



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Posted 29 May 2021 - 01:52 PM

She is painfully ignorant of not just gun laws, but specifics of her own bill.

She's not the first.


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Posted 29 May 2021 - 01:53 PM

She states that there will be an amendment in the Senate to change the proposed 5 year FOID back to 10 year.

 

Wheeler points out that the bill being voted on in the House does not include that change.



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Posted 29 May 2021 - 01:54 PM

Wheeler points out that an injunction will likely be filed against the bill if it passes, preventing both good and bad aspects from becoming law.



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Posted 29 May 2021 - 01:55 PM

Mr. Wheeler asks if it is correct the 2.2 Million FOID card holders must now submit prints to excecize a right.  She answers with a lower number, still in the millions, because of existing prints.

Mr. Wheeler should ask her what purpose is served by requiring around 2 million people that are already legally exercising their 2A rights to submit to fingerprinting to continue doing so.


Edited by springfield shooter, 29 May 2021 - 01:55 PM.

"People will do what they do."

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Posted 29 May 2021 - 01:55 PM

In response to Mr. Wheeler, Ms. Hirschauer says ISP has no position.



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Posted 29 May 2021 - 01:56 PM

She states that there will be an amendment in the Senate to change the proposed 5 year FOID back to 10 year.

 

Wheeler points out that the bill being voted on in the House does not include that change.

One wonders why?


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Posted 29 May 2021 - 01:57 PM

Wheeler says HB562 has agreed language with ISP in the Senate.  That the language was accepted in its entirety last night.  He suggests they proceed with the agreed language instead of her bill which is not agreed.



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Posted 29 May 2021 - 01:57 PM

She states that there will be an amendment in the Senate to change the proposed 5 year FOID back to 10 year.
 
Wheeler points out that the bill being voted on in the House does not include that change.


The promise of “we’ll fix it later” has been made a lot this year, and subsequently broken. Similarly, there were promises from certain Democrat members in committee that they wouldn’t support the bill in the current form on the floor, but agreed to get it through committee “to keep working”…we’ll see if they keep their promises…

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Posted 29 May 2021 - 01:58 PM

Despite the sponsor's denial, Wheeler says a deal has been worked out in the Senate.



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Posted 29 May 2021 - 02:00 PM

Despite the sponsor's denial, Wheeler says a deal has been worked out in the Senate.

That ought to be pretty easy to shake out.


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Posted 29 May 2021 - 02:00 PM

Ms. Willis steps in to rescue Ms. Hirschaer.  She denies the existence of an agreed bill in the Senate, too.

 

She also says an amendment will bring the fee back to $10 and the term back to 10 years.  She says other changes are being worked on too.

 

Showing her continued disdain for the Constitution, she derides people who "believe the Second Amendment is the law of the land".



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Posted 29 May 2021 - 02:01 PM

Ms. Willis also attempts to justify fingerprints by saying some people already have them on file for their jobs.



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Posted 29 May 2021 - 02:02 PM

 
Showing her continued disdain for the Constitution, she derides people who "believe the Second Amendment is the law of the land".


I’m glad someone else heard that the same way I did

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Posted 29 May 2021 - 02:02 PM

What an embarrassment the Illinois legislature is. 


People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf. -  George Orwell

A gun is like a parachute. If you need one, and don't have one, you'll probably never need one again. 


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Posted 29 May 2021 - 02:03 PM

Ms. Willis also attempts to justify fingerprints by saying some people already have them on file for their jobs.

… which won’t be accepted by the ISP for firearms purposes.  


People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf. -  George Orwell

A gun is like a parachute. If you need one, and don't have one, you'll probably never need one again. 


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Posted 29 May 2021 - 02:04 PM

In response to Rep Caulkins, Ms. Hirschauer says "there were witness slips".  She attempts to actually count names.

 

Mr. Caulkins informs her of the 3 to 1 against, actual numbers



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Posted 29 May 2021 - 02:05 PM

Caulkins points out that, while we can't process FOID cards now, the bill diverts funds to a new task force created in the bill.



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Posted 29 May 2021 - 02:06 PM

Mr. Caulkins asks how many people who have committed violent crims were found to have a FOID card.

 

Ms. Hirschauer doesn't know.



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Posted 29 May 2021 - 02:07 PM

She doesn't know how many people will be on the task force.






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