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How long until IL Democrats are emboldened.


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The only reason we have legal concealed carry is that a Federal judge forced the State to establish the policy we have. With what is going on the nation, with SCOTUS clearly intimidated by the Left and refusing to take on 2A cases, is it only a matter of time before IL repeals it’s concealed carry law? We know that Pritzker, Preckwinkle, and Lightfoot would love to see normal citizens ( I.e., Republican voters) disarmed, so when can we expect this power grab to take place? I personally cannot a imagine having to live here without the ability to defend myself so maybe I should welcome the law’s repeal so that I can finally move out of this state.

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There will be no repeal of the carry law.

 

Can you share with us why you think that? I certainly hope you are right.

 

With what is happening in the nation, and this State, I no longer have ANY confidence in the sanity or common sense of the People of this nation.

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I would not put it past IL Democrats to further restrict the carry law, without totally repealing it. Fees could be increased astronomically, but waived for all elected officials for example. More places could be added as "no carry" zones so that carrying routinely would become difficult to do without violating the law. When we live in a State where the Mayor of the city that dominates the entire state is calling for a new rule that would limit police from pursuing suspects until they have secured permission from a supervisor, nothing that this State does will surprise me. The election of Biden and Harris, the openly ignoring of due process for white defendants and the elevation of criminal street thugs into national heroes give me little reason to think that the Democrats here will not be emboldened to strike at the heart of our 2A rights.

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The SCOTUS is on thin ice with the shenanigans to add states to the Union and packing the court.

 

I would no longer count on the Constitution as a firewall.

 

We lost the country when some refused to vote for Trump and when the GOP didn't push for a fair election.

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Holding their noses in the air and refusing to back Trump was a big mistake that some might be realizing right now, but it goes much deeper than that. When the Mayor of Brooklyn Center recently fired the City Manager for the audacity of saying that the police officer who shot the thug who resisted arrest would receive due process, that did not surprise me coming from a Black Leftist Mayor. But there was not a sound of protest by traditional "liberals". Pelosi, Schumer, and others were totally silent at this provocative anti-rule of law behavior by this POS mayor. Add to this the blatant intimidation of the Chauvin jury, starting with the prosecutor, but including the governor of MN, Maxine Waters and the President of the U.S., and t he media nor anyone else is protesting loudly, and it is obvious that the country has probably reached the point of no return. The founder of BLM buys four homes for several million dollars using funds donated by stupid white people thinking that they were helping disadvantaged minorities, and the media tries its best to avoid the issue and I haven't seen the BLM yard signs being removed from my neighbor's lawns. All of this has likely made the most vehement anti-gunners convinced that this is truly their time in history where they can disarm us and leave us helpless for good.

 

At the Federal level we might not see draconian gun control because Joe Manchin in not likely to support such legislation if he values a future as a West Virginia Senator. But at the State level, who is there to stop the Chicago mob running this state from giving disarming us a good try?

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"Shall issue" vs. "May issue". What's preventing IL Dems from changing to a "May issue" state, like Maryland or Hawaii? At least in NY or CA, they're corrupt enough that someone could bribe their way into a CCW permit. There could be some lean years here in IL while the machine figures out the toll for "May issue" licenses.

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"Shall issue" vs. "May issue". What's preventing IL Dems from changing to a "May issue" state, like Maryland or Hawaii? At least in NY or CA, they're corrupt enough that someone could bribe their way into a CCW permit. There could be some lean years here in IL while the machine figures out the toll for "May issue" licenses.

It would be difficult, both politically and legally, for a shall issue state to tell a few hundred thousand existing licensees they suddenly no longer qualify.

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Difficult for whom? They just make the laws, which is extremely easy. They dont have to support or defend them. Meanwhile once a criminal youre tarnished, and then it truly is difficult to make that go away.

 

Yep.

 

There's no political price. We're 40% Republican at best. Even if a handful of Dem voters get upset, that doesn't mean they're going to vote Republican. If you're still a Dem voter, you're already guaranteed to not have the 2A as your top priority, or even in the top 10. The 2A is a vestigial right to them that they'll gladly give up once they're finally, truly in power and they've criminalized/neutered the opposition.

 

If there's no $dollar$ figure attached to the state, then it's going to happen. They may miss the little slush fund these applications have provided over the years, but we were getting all lawyerly about that anyways, so screw us!

 

If the judge only said we had to have CCW and didn't say "how", then it's just a matter of time before the clever ones on the left wake up and make the "Shall" / "May" switch.

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If the judge only said we had to have CCW and didn't say "how", then it's just a matter of time before the clever ones on the left wake up and make the "Shall" / "May" switch.

 

 

 

 

Not going to happen. THey couldn't do this when the bill first passed because the votes were not there for "may' issue. Votes certainly aren't there now with nearly 400,000 license holders and concealed carry becoming commonplace.

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If the judge only said we had to have CCW and didn't say "how", then it's just a matter of time before the clever ones on the left wake up and make the "Shall" / "May" switch.

 

 

 

 

Not going to happen. THey couldn't do this when the bill first passed because the votes were not there for "may' issue. Votes certainly aren't there now with nearly 400,000 license holders and concealed carry becoming commonplace.

 

I wonder of the 400m how many got wise and left the state. Do we have actual numbers of those still around?

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If the judge only said we had to have CCW and didn't say "how", then it's just a matter of time before the clever ones on the left wake up and make the "Shall" / "May" switch.

 

 

 

 

Not going to happen. THey couldn't do this when the bill first passed because the votes were not there for "may' issue. Votes certainly aren't there now with nearly 400,000 license holders and concealed carry becoming commonplace.

And i agree..hence the slowing down of applicants...

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The comments saying that legally,pritzker & his people cant do this or cant do that.Wake up people.That was good info last year.If anyone believes that the present governmant in Illinois or The USA will stop at anything to do whatever they want.Is forgetting that this is quickly transforming into a socialist communist country.The people showed their colors when they rolled over on the virus.Emperor Pritzker knows he has the people by the short hairs

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