45superman Posted April 13, 2008 at 04:01 PM Share Posted April 13, 2008 at 04:01 PM Scroll down to the bottom of this article: GunsThe House last week killed a bill restricting handgun purchases to one per month. A bill to ban assault weapons will be called for a vote this week, said sponsor Rep. Edward Acevedo, D-Chicago. Rep. Aaron Schock, R-Peoria, is sponsoring a bill to allow Illinoisans to carry concealed weapons. It is stuck in the House Rules Committee, where nothing will happen to it unless Madigan agrees. “I know better than to run around chasing my tail,” Schock said. Presumably, Acevedo referred to HB 4357, although I suppose it's possible that it's HB 873. Doesn't really matter--they're the same bill. One possibility is that this is just a "bargaining chip" to try to get some of the borderline anti-gun folks to vote for the other anti-gun priorities (HB 758 and SB 1007). Either way, we have calls to make starting tomorrow. I guess we might as well start with the same list that we've been using for HB 758 and SB 1007: State Representative Sandy Cole (R-62)(217) 782-7320 State Representative Paul Froehlich (D-56)(217) 782-3725 State Representative Sidney Mathias (R-53)(217) 782-1664 State Representative Ruth Munson (R-43)(217) 782-8020 State Representative Charles Jefferson (D-67)(217) 782-3167 State Representative Patricia Bellock (R-47)(217) 782-1448 State Representative Sandra Pihos (R-42)(217) 782-8037 Rep. Charles Jefferson probably won't be very sympathetic--he signed on as a co-sponsor of HB 4357 less than a week ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Federal Farmer Posted April 13, 2008 at 05:11 PM Share Posted April 13, 2008 at 05:11 PM I presume you mean we all should call, not just constituents? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmershAgent Posted April 13, 2008 at 05:31 PM Share Posted April 13, 2008 at 05:31 PM I presume you mean we all should call, not just constituents? That is my understanding. However, I suggest everyone contact his or her own Representative in addition to the list. If you don't know who your state Representative is, you can look the information up here: http://www.capwiz.com/nra/dbq/officials/ (make sure to select "state" when you enter in your zip code - the default setting is "Congress") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
45superman Posted April 13, 2008 at 05:31 PM Author Share Posted April 13, 2008 at 05:31 PM I presume you mean we all should call, not just constituents?Correct--I was planning on using this list as my starting point, and also call my own Rep. (I seriously doubt Hoffman would vote for this abomination, but I want to be sure he knows my position). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slappy Posted April 13, 2008 at 05:45 PM Share Posted April 13, 2008 at 05:45 PM It is stuck in the House Rules Committee, where nothing will happen to it unless Madigan agrees. What does Madigan have to do with this? Doesnt the committee vote and if they approve, it goes to the house for a vote? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
45superman Posted April 13, 2008 at 05:56 PM Author Share Posted April 13, 2008 at 05:56 PM It is stuck in the House Rules Committee, where nothing will happen to it unless Madigan agrees. What does Madigan have to do with this? Doesnt the committee vote and if they approve, it goes to the house for a vote?Maybe the Rules Committee chairperson (Barbara Flynn Currie) does Madigan's bidding like a good little minion, and only brings bills up for votes with Madigan's blessing. Another question is that although HB 4544 is bottled up in Rules, HB 1304 isn't, and Schock is a co-sponsor of that one--why doesn't he put some muscle behind that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RacerDave6 Posted April 13, 2008 at 06:00 PM Share Posted April 13, 2008 at 06:00 PM It is stuck in the House Rules Committee, where nothing will happen to it unless Madigan agrees. What does Madigan have to do with this? Doesnt the committee vote and if they approve, it goes to the house for a vote?How do you think they get on the committee. Madigan appointments... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilphil Posted April 13, 2008 at 06:03 PM Share Posted April 13, 2008 at 06:03 PM It is stuck in the House Rules Committee, where nothing will happen to it unless Madigan agrees. What does Madigan have to do with this? Doesnt the committee vote and if they approve, it goes to the house for a vote? NOTHING happens in the House without Madigan's approval. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abolt243 Posted April 13, 2008 at 06:13 PM Share Posted April 13, 2008 at 06:13 PM It is stuck in the House Rules Committee, where nothing will happen to it unless Madigan agrees. What does Madigan have to do with this? Doesnt the committee vote and if they approve, it goes to the house for a vote?Maybe the Rules Committee chairperson (Barbara Flynn Currie) does Madigan's bidding like a good little minion, and only brings bills up for votes with Madigan's blessing. Another question is that although HB 4544 is bottled up in Rules, HB 1304 isn't, and Schock is a co-sponsor of that one--why doesn't he put some muscle behind that? IIUC, the date for bills to be passed out of committee was the middle of last month. Any bill that didn't get out of committee was automatically re-reffered to Rules. Normally, (if there is such a state in this legislature) the bills stay there until the end of the session and die. However, the Speaker (Madigan), at his discretion can allow the rules committee to release any bill he chooses. So, yes, he has great power to deterimine what bills get looked at. Unfair?? It's in the State Constitution. Another reason some say we need a Constitutional Convention. If any of the above is not right, please correct me! And, .45, thanks for bringning up 1304. If anyone here is from Schock's district, that would be a good question for a constituent to ask. I've e-mailed him already with the question and have recieved no answer. AB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abolt243 Posted April 14, 2008 at 10:44 PM Share Posted April 14, 2008 at 10:44 PM Scroll down to the bottom of this article: GunsThe House last week killed a bill restricting handgun purchases to one per month. A bill to ban assault weapons will be called for a vote this week, said sponsor Rep. Edward Acevedo, D-Chicago. Rep. Aaron Schock, R-Peoria, is sponsoring a bill to allow Illinoisans to carry concealed weapons. It is stuck in the House Rules Committee, where nothing will happen to it unless Madigan agrees. “I know better than to run around chasing my tail,†Schock said. Presumably, Acevedo referred to HB 4357, although I suppose it's possible that it's HB 873. Doesn't really matter--they're the same bill. One possibility is that this is just a "bargaining chip" to try to get some of the borderline anti-gun folks to vote for the other anti-gun priorities (HB 758 and SB 1007). Either way, we have calls to make starting tomorrow. I guess we might as well start with the same list that we've been using for HB 758 and SB 1007: State Representative Sandy Cole (R-62)(217) 782-7320 State Representative Paul Froehlich (D-56)(217) 782-3725 State Representative Sidney Mathias (R-53)(217) 782-1664 State Representative Ruth Munson (R-43)(217) 782-8020 State Representative Charles Jefferson (D-67)(217) 782-3167 State Representative Patricia Bellock (R-47)(217) 782-1448 State Representative Sandra Pihos (R-42)(217) 782-8037 Rep. Charles Jefferson probably won't be very sympathetic--he signed on as a co-sponsor of HB 4357 less than a week ago. To the top: Add Speaker Madigan to the list 217-783-5350. He just as well hear our stance also! Offices open at 8:30, most have answering machines if you want to call tonight or earlier in the A.M. Get those dialing fingers warmed up. Oppose HB4357, HB758, HB873, and SB1007. Go Girls and Guys Go!!!! AB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
45superman Posted April 14, 2008 at 11:00 PM Author Share Posted April 14, 2008 at 11:00 PM From the NRA: Illinois: Anti-gun Extremists in Springfield Expected to Push for Ban on Firearms! Monday, April 14, 2008 Make Your Voice Heard Today! House Bill 4357, introduced by Representative Edward Acevedo (D-2), seeks to ban countless semi-automatic handguns, rifles, and shotguns, as well as .50 cal. rifles and ammunition. Any person who lawfully owns a firearm that matches the criteria would be permitted to keep that firearm so long as they have registered their firearm with the Department of State Police within 90 days of the ban's activation date. This registration includes previously owned firearms, as has been done in other areas. HB 4357 ban would include numerous autoloading hunting rifles and shotguns, autoloading .22 rimfire rifles, some 19th century pistols, as well as many firearms with a "military-style appearance" used for self-defense, target shooting and hunting. HB4357 is an outright ban on your Second Amendment rights to lawfully own and possess these firearms! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmershAgent Posted April 14, 2008 at 11:01 PM Share Posted April 14, 2008 at 11:01 PM It's serious enough to have gotten the NRA's attention: Illinois: Anti-gun Extremists in Springfield Expected toPush for Ban on Firearms! Make Your Voice Heard Today! House Bill 4357, introduced by Representative Edward Acevedo (D-2), seeks to ban countless semi-automatic handguns, rifles, and shotguns, as well as .50 cal. rifles and ammunition. Any person who lawfully owns a firearm that matches the criteria would be permitted to keep that firearm so long as they have registered their firearm with the Department of State Police within 90 days of the ban's activation date. This registration includes previously owned firearms, as has been done in other areas. HB 4357 ban would include numerous autoloading hunting rifles and shotguns, autoloading .22 rimfire rifles, some 19th century pistols, as well as many firearms with a "military-style appearance" used for self-defense, target shooting and hunting. HB4357 is an outright ban on your Second Amendment rights to lawfully own and possess these firearms! It is critical that you contact your State Representative TODAY and urge him to oppose HB 4357! To contact your State Representative please click here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ishmo Posted April 14, 2008 at 11:43 PM Share Posted April 14, 2008 at 11:43 PM It is stuck in the House Rules Committee, where nothing will happen to it unless Madigan agrees. What does Madigan have to do with this? Doesnt the committee vote and if they approve, it goes to the house for a vote? NOTHING happens in the House without Madigan's approval.Amen to that. I've emailed and called him and Viverito so much over the last 2 years I had to stop for a while, thought I was getting carpal tunnel in my trigger finger and my thumb got callouses Got a new Blackberry recently so I'll give it a workout tomorrow just so they know I care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylok Posted April 15, 2008 at 12:25 AM Share Posted April 15, 2008 at 12:25 AM Now it's Bellock and Pihos that have the same admin assist so two reps with one call right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abolt243 Posted April 15, 2008 at 01:30 AM Share Posted April 15, 2008 at 01:30 AM Now it's Bellock and Pihos that have the same admin assist so two reps with one call right? Yep!UAB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylok Posted April 15, 2008 at 01:33 AM Share Posted April 15, 2008 at 01:33 AM K, I now have "The List" along with my rep/senator and Speaker Madigan all programed into my phone so I always have it with me. I'll make my round of calls when I get up in the morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abolt243 Posted April 15, 2008 at 12:35 PM Share Posted April 15, 2008 at 12:35 PM To the Top!!!! Today's the day!!! CALL!! Scroll down to the bottom of this article: GunsThe House last week killed a bill restricting handgun purchases to one per month. A bill to ban assault weapons will be called for a vote this week, said sponsor Rep. Edward Acevedo, D-Chicago. Rep. Aaron Schock, R-Peoria, is sponsoring a bill to allow Illinoisans to carry concealed weapons. It is stuck in the House Rules Committee, where nothing will happen to it unless Madigan agrees. “I know better than to run around chasing my tail,†Schock said. Presumably, Acevedo referred to HB 4357, although I suppose it's possible that it's HB 873. Doesn't really matter--they're the same bill. One possibility is that this is just a "bargaining chip" to try to get some of the borderline anti-gun folks to vote for the other anti-gun priorities (HB 758 and SB 1007). Either way, we have calls to make starting tomorrow. I guess we might as well start with the same list that we've been using for HB 758 and SB 1007: State Representative Sandy Cole (R-62)(217) 782-7320 State Representative Paul Froehlich (D-56)(217) 782-3725 State Representative Sidney Mathias (R-53)(217) 782-1664 State Representative Ruth Munson (R-43)(217) 782-8020 State Representative Charles Jefferson (D-67)(217) 782-3167 State Representative Patricia Bellock (R-47)(217) 782-1448 State Representative Sandra Pihos (R-42)(217) 782-8037 Rep. Charles Jefferson probably won't be very sympathetic--he signed on as a co-sponsor of HB 4357 less than a week ago. To the top: Add Speaker Madigan to the list 217-782-5350. He just as well hear our stance also! Offices open at 8:30, most have answering machines if you want to call tonight or earlier in the A.M. Get those dialing fingers warmed up. Oppose HB4357, HB578, HB873, and SB1007. Go Girls and Guys Go!!!! AB To the top, today's the day!!! Call!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
45superman Posted April 15, 2008 at 01:46 PM Author Share Posted April 15, 2008 at 01:46 PM By the way, A-Bolt, Speaker Madigan's number is 217-782-5350, rather than 217-783-5350. Calls made, and FAXes on the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abolt243 Posted April 15, 2008 at 01:55 PM Share Posted April 15, 2008 at 01:55 PM By the way, A-Bolt, Speaker Madigan's number is 217-782-5350, rather than 217-783-5350. Calls made, and FAXes on the way. Thanks, fixed it!! AB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly B. Posted April 15, 2008 at 02:16 PM Share Posted April 15, 2008 at 02:16 PM Gen. Assembly will be in session today - starting at noon - we will want to be listening in case the AWB comes up. Anyone available to cover the House? The Senate? Molly B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
45superman Posted April 15, 2008 at 02:22 PM Author Share Posted April 15, 2008 at 02:22 PM Gen. Assembly will be in session today - starting at noon - we will want to be listening in case the AWB comes up. Anyone available to cover the House? The Senate? Molly B.I was planning to keep an eye on the House, but I won't be able to do so constantly, without interruption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted April 15, 2008 at 02:39 PM Share Posted April 15, 2008 at 02:39 PM Alright I just called in my rep, and told them to have him call me if he has any questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suburbangunslinger Posted April 15, 2008 at 02:56 PM Share Posted April 15, 2008 at 02:56 PM Start those calls! We're gonna fight these people tooth and nail! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaeghl Posted April 15, 2008 at 03:50 PM Share Posted April 15, 2008 at 03:50 PM Just talked to the nice lady at Rep Winter's office, she assured me that he would oppose these. It seems that Rep Winters was interviewed on a Chicago station for his oppostion to one of these bills just a couple days ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWBH Posted April 15, 2008 at 03:56 PM Share Posted April 15, 2008 at 03:56 PM Calls made... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly B. Posted April 15, 2008 at 04:50 PM Share Posted April 15, 2008 at 04:50 PM SB1007 - magazine ban -is on the docket for Third Reading in the House today - do not know if sponsor will be calling it for vote. HB4357 - AWB - is on the docket for Second Reading. HB758 - privates sales - is on the docket for Second Reading I do not see HB873 - earlier AWB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Posted April 15, 2008 at 04:57 PM Share Posted April 15, 2008 at 04:57 PM Just talked to the nice lady at Rep Winter's office, she assured me that he would oppose these. It seems that Rep Winters was interviewed on a Chicago station for his oppostion to one of these bills just a couple days ago. Dave Winters is awesome he talks to me like I am a regular guy. He is all about concealed carry and campus carry. He even said at IGOLD that he thinks high school students that have been trained should be able to carry. You dont have to call him to oppose bills you can if you want but he said when he gets enough complaints about the way he votes on gun issues he will quit before he votes for more gun laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abolt243 Posted April 15, 2008 at 05:00 PM Share Posted April 15, 2008 at 05:00 PM SB1007 - magazine ban -is on the docket for Third Reading in the House today - do not know if sponsor will be calling it for vote. HB4357 - AWB - is on the docket for Second Reading. HB758 - privates sales - is on the docket for Second Reading I do not see HB873 - earlier AWB. So is 1304. AB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
45superman Posted April 15, 2008 at 05:01 PM Author Share Posted April 15, 2008 at 05:01 PM You dont have to call him to oppose bills you can if you want but he said when he gets enough complaints about the way he votes on gun issues he will quit before he votes for more gun laws. In that case, calls that thank him for the way he votes are probably in order. The last thing we want is for him to be quitting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashdump Posted April 15, 2008 at 05:27 PM Share Posted April 15, 2008 at 05:27 PM Well, I'm listening to the house. Can't listen for too much longer before I go to work. I hope they get off of this wrestling team pants pissing thats going on right now. I mean, who cares? I know none of these people, as I'm sure 99% of the legislators dont either Let's get down to business :Angry!: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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