Quiet Observer Posted May 12, 2026 at 07:43 PM Posted May 12, 2026 at 07:43 PM On 4/29/2026 at 5:24 PM, casey212 said: I began contacting Illinois attorneys today, and managed to find one who was ethical and competent: A.S. Durrani. He didn't try to get $3500 from me before he would answer any questions. We talked briefly, he asked for my correspondence with ISP, then he sent me the super-secret procedure for non-residents to seek Illinois firearm prohibitor relief. You do need to go through the FOID application procedure, but the part that FRCU was withholding from me is that you need to ignore instructions and enter placeholders instead of a law enforcement employer. "It may look like employment documentation is required, but it is not." What a screwy system. I mentioned before "As a software developer, their web portal makes me cringe". Even moreso with all this nonsense. But then I noticed that the whole web portal seems to be designed by my employer's competitor. I would have built a much better system. But maybe it was meant to be unusable. OOS FOID letter to applicant.pdf 68.29 kB · 7 downloads I think that it is best to stick with a lawyer for advice. A lawyer can ask you the appropriate questions and organize the events. Here you are leaving out information and making unsupported accusations, which may be true or erroneous. You deserve the confidential input of a qualified lawyer.
casey212 Posted May 13, 2026 at 08:40 PM Author Posted May 13, 2026 at 08:40 PM On 5/12/2026 at 2:43 PM, Quiet Observer said: I think that it is best to stick with a lawyer for advice. A lawyer can ask you the appropriate questions and organize the events. Here you are leaving out information and making unsupported accusations, which may be true or erroneous. You deserve the confidential input of a qualified lawyer. Did you even read? What unsupported accusation? Be specific. I've talked to many lawyers. Only one seemed to be aware of the process, which should not require a lawyer at all if ISP actually followed the law. It sounds like you're the one making unsupported accusations. I finally got my appeal started. No thanks to people like you. You're contributing nothing. I've already answered all of my own questions. The PDF I attached is the final answer. It wasn't provided to me by ISP or anyone on this forum. But hopefully I save others from everything I had to go through in order to obtain it.
Quiet Observer Posted May 14, 2026 at 05:05 PM Posted May 14, 2026 at 05:05 PM On 5/13/2026 at 3:40 PM, casey212 said: Did you even read? What unsupported accusation? Be specific. I've talked to many lawyers. Only one seemed to be aware of the process, which should not require a lawyer at all if ISP actually followed the law. It sounds like you're the one making unsupported accusations. I finally got my appeal started. No thanks to people like you. You're contributing nothing. I've already answered all of my own questions. The PDF I attached is the final answer. It wasn't provided to me by ISP or anyone on this forum. But hopefully I save others from everything I had to go through in order to obtain it. I know that you have consulted lawyers. That is why I said stick with a lawyer rather than saying get a lawyer. You called officer Benevidez a liar but gave no actual evidence. Your claiming it does do make it so. On March 30 you claimed that there are no competent lawyers. Later, you said some lawyers were unethical because they wanted money upfront. That is a common practice. Do You Have to Pay a Lawyer Upfront? How Fees Work - LegalClarity
casey212 Posted May 15, 2026 at 01:21 AM Author Posted May 15, 2026 at 01:21 AM On 5/14/2026 at 10:05 AM, Quiet Observer said: I know that you have consulted lawyers. That is why I said stick with a lawyer rather than saying get a lawyer. You called officer Benevidez a liar but gave no actual evidence. Your claiming it does do make it so. On March 30 you claimed that there are no competent lawyers. Later, you said some lawyers were unethical because they wanted money upfront. That is a common practice. Do You Have to Pay a Lawyer Upfront? How Fees Work - LegalClarity I don't need to provide any evidence to you or anyone on this forum. I provided ample evidence to the ISP in my appeal. My mental health exam directly contradicts what Benavidez stated as a fact. As do my polygraph results. Not saying he lied, but what he reported was a lie and he failed to state why he was reporting that false hearsay as a fact. That is supported by additional documentary evidence including my text conversation with him, where he defended it as a "game of telephone". And the lawyer just wished me luck, and has no assistance to offer beyond waiting for the appeal. Because he isn't the lawyer trying to exploit my situation for $3500. Because my situation doesn't require an attorney since I have no legal recourse beyond that appeal. And I only needed that PDF to get started, which ISP failed to provide me with.
Bubbacs Posted May 15, 2026 at 02:38 AM Posted May 15, 2026 at 02:38 AM I don't need to provide any evidence to you or anyone on this forum. Then why are you here? Remember you came in here asking questions, we did NOT seek you out! Being honest which the others are tippy toeing around, you had your mind made up long before you came here to troll!
casey212 Posted May 15, 2026 at 02:48 AM Author Posted May 15, 2026 at 02:48 AM On 5/14/2026 at 7:38 PM, Bubbacs said: I don't need to provide any evidence to you or anyone on this forum. Then why are you here? Remember you came in here asking questions, we did NOT seek you out! Being honest which the others are tippy toeing around, you had your mind made up long before you came here to troll! You clearly haven't been reading. I came here for answers. I ended up answering my own questions. Most importantly the PDF I attached. And as I already said, I'm here to save others all the trouble I had to go through to get it. I'm the one actually helping people here. You're just trolling.
casey212 Posted May 19, 2026 at 10:25 PM Author Posted May 19, 2026 at 10:25 PM (edited) I received a FOID rejection letter last week, but I was advised in the initial response and in the super-secret non-resident appeal procedure to ignore that rejection letter. Then in the web portal, the initial response under FOID I previously posted was now replaced with a rejection due to being a non-resident. The CCL section still had the same "unable to apply due to statuatory prohibitor" message, even though all the boxes were checked "no". I haven't received any updates. There are no new correspondence since my FOID "rejection". But I logged back into the portal today just to see if anything changed. Everything had been completely reset. No more FOID rejection, no more CCL application error. I seemed to have a clean slate. So I went through the non-resident CCL application again. Most of my information was saved from my previous attempt. But this time, when it got to the step to pay the application fee, it actually worked instead of bouncing me back to the dashboard. So apparently the statuatory prohibitor is now gone, my FOID status is "Not on File", and my CCW status is "Under Review". So I should be able to update here within 120 days whether my non-resident CCL gets approved. Otherwise, for now, I suspect I have the same rights as any other non-resident with no IL CCL. But who knows. The ISP has been as opaque and difficult through this whole process as possible. Edited May 19, 2026 at 10:26 PM by casey212
Molly B. Posted May 20, 2026 at 04:06 AM Posted May 20, 2026 at 04:06 AM Thank you for posting your progress!
casey212 Posted May 22, 2026 at 07:46 PM Author Posted May 22, 2026 at 07:46 PM (edited) I finally received confirmation today: Quote The Illinois State Police has completed the review of your appeal of the revocation of your FOID and Concealed Carry License. Pursuant to the Firearm Owner’s Identification Act (430 ILCS 65) and the Firearm Concealed Carry Act (430 ILCS 66) your appeal has been granted, and we have removed your firearm prohibitor. You now have the right to possess or transport a firearm in Illinois but not carry (see IL law on possessing/transporting as an OOS resident). If you would like to carry in Illinois, you may now apply for your Conceal Carry License as a non-resident. Nothing has changed in the web portal. It doesn't even show the above e-mail. I find it interesting that e-mail has a FRCU signature even though they had previously said the appeal would be handled by FCRB and they had nothing to do with it. It should be noted that this e-mail was the first response I received that explained what my rights actually are, and I have still not been provided by the ISP any sort of instructions similar to the PDF I previously attached in this thread. So I most definitely did not need an attorney to file an appeal on my behalf for $3500. The appeal I had already submitted is what was granted. I just needed to submit an application for a FOID card I wasn't elgibible for with the super-secret instructions to get my appeal reviewed at all. Unfortunately the response mentioned nothing about the false reporting or the evidence I submitted contradicting it, or what will be included in the FOID database for review in any future decisions, like my CCL application or any future retroactive purge like they did following the Villa Park shooting. So I have "117 DAYS REMAINING" for my non-resident CCL application in Illinois. Maybe I should look into getting my California CCW while I wait. That actually seems to be much easier than Illinois. Edited May 22, 2026 at 07:54 PM by casey212
casey212 Posted May 25, 2026 at 03:53 PM Author Posted May 25, 2026 at 03:53 PM Can anyone confirm that a Mental Health Certification would be retained in the FOID database the same as a Clear and Present Danger form? I need to know that the truth is at least being represented alongside the false reporting used to violate my rights for over 5 years. Otherwise the false reporting will remain a threat to my rights indefinitely, even if my CCL is issued. Sure, I can appeal another revocation, but I shouldn't have to, and I shouldn't have that threat hanging over my head the rest of my life.
Molly B. Posted May 25, 2026 at 04:17 PM Posted May 25, 2026 at 04:17 PM I can't say with certainty, depending on how long ago it was filed. I have known them to request an updated M.H. certificate if some time had passed since it was filed, but that was several years ago.
casey212 Posted May 25, 2026 at 05:05 PM Author Posted May 25, 2026 at 05:05 PM On 5/25/2026 at 9:17 AM, Molly B. said: I can't say with certainty, depending on how long ago it was filed. I have known them to request an updated M.H. certificate if some time had passed since it was filed, but that was several years ago. It was filed in March and presumably used when my appeal was granted last week. I would hope that it would be retained indefinitely the same as a C&PD, whether they request a new one or not. But my suspicion is if it doesn't support infringing on rights and isn't explicitly required by law to retain it beyond my appeal, they would just discard it. What I've wanted all along is the truth on record. But at least I have a copy I suppose. If false reporting has no expiration, then neither should the truth.
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