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What does this even mean? If my status is not "revoked" anymore, does that mean I can legally possess a firearm in Illinois as a non-resident? What could have happened on 12/08/2025? My FOID was revoked 2/10/2021, and I moved to Nevada October 2021. I didn't submit my "Request for FOID Investigation, Relief and Reinstatement of Firearms Rights" form until this month. Why does the ISP need to be as cryptic as possible?

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On 2/26/2026 at 7:54 PM, WhyDoILiveInIL said:

Even being proactive, I got denied. My FOID has been expired for a long time. In 2008, I was voluntarily hospitalized for depression. I applied for my FOID card about three months ago and I wasn't even allowed to get through the application process. I called ISP to find out what was going on. I was told that it was instantly denied and that they had to "remove a hold" and that I needed to apply again. I did some research prior to applying a second time and read about the need for evaluation by a professional licensed in IL. Being proactive, I was evaluated by an Illinois licensed psychiatrist. I was deemed appropriate to own a firearm and the form was submitted to the ISP. I still had not applied the second time yet. 

 

Earlier this month, I received an email with the subject "Appeal Inquiry." The email had my name followed by a number (I'm assuming it's a case number even though an appeal has not been filed.) The email stated that,

  • "Due to the age of the prohibitor, we have reset your application.  It is now in an ‘Unedited’ status, meaning you must reapply.  Once you reapply, if you are denied, you may reach out to the FRCU again to start a new review.  The Mental Health Certification form will be valid to use if you are denied upon review of the new application process."

I was confused; why was I getting an email regarding an appeal when I hadn't even applied after the first ISP person reset my account? I called and was told that I had to reapply and then file an appeal if I was denied. I told the ISP person that what I understood her saying was that I was going to be automatically denied and I received something from the Illinois State Police Firearms Record Challenge Unit because they were automatically going to deny me. She said that that wasn't the case but I would need to reapply. I reapplied last week. Today, I received a letter denying my application due to the 2008 hospitalization.

 

I know that the process states that I have to file an appeal since I was denied again. That said, I am frustrated and angry with the games they are playing. What they are requiring isn't part of the law (as I read it- not an attorney) and I even gave them a certification so that I wouldn't have any problems. I don't feel that I should have to give the ISP free access to all of my medical files with zero protection for me and my information (you must acknowledge that you give up the right to HIPPA protections and  you must indemnify the ISP for ANYTHING that may happen with your protected health information and waive your right to sue) until my FOID card were to expire. I am also acutely aware that everything I do and say is going to be judged on a different scale, so I have to be very careful how I phrase absolutely everything. Do I have any recourse other than signing away my rights to my protected health information? If I have to go this way, do I then have to let the card expire and apply again in order to end access to my medical information? Your help is appreciated.

 

Not sure for the reason of your revocation. Here is a previous post that might help you out. Might not be the same reason, but could be the same process.

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Yes, I believe it means you need to reapply.  It's a crazy way to process these types of situations, but if documents/challenges are not filed within a certain timeline, the application system times out.  But usually when you reapply, it straightens itself out . . .??? Or something like that.

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On 3/28/2026 at 6:02 PM, Molly B. said:

Yes, I believe it means you need to reapply.  It's a crazy way to process these types of situations, but if documents/challenges are not filed within a certain timeline, the application system times out.  But usually when you reapply, it straightens itself out . . .??? Or something like that.

Reapply for what? FOID cards are only for Illinois residents.

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On 3/28/2026 at 7:40 AM, Stats said:

 

Not sure for the reason of your revocation. Here is a previous post that might help you out. Might not be the same reason, but could be the same process.

That seems to confirm my suspicion that my "revoked" status has been cleared, so I guess I don't have anything to appeal at the moment and can legally possess a firearm in Illinois as a non-resident since the prohibitor aged out. But I guess I can expect to get denied a CCL despite no longer having a "revoked" status only to appeal with the mental health cert they already received. It certainly seems like they are playing games with people's Constitutional rights and being fast and loose with the law. I'm glad I don't live in that evil cesspool anymore. Too bad there are no competent attorneys there who actually stand up to them, but just game the system for profit.

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As a Nevada (or potentially Arkansas, Idaho, Mississippi, Texas, or Virginia) resident, you can apply for a nonresident concealed carry license in Illinois. The CCL card is now the same card as the FOID.

Nonresident possession of a firearm in Illinois is limited, but possible. You haven't said how you intend to possess a firearm (type, where, when) in Illinois. Without additional information, a blanket "yes" or "no" answer to your question ("can [I] legally possess a firearm in Illinois as a non-resident") is impossible to say.
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On 3/28/2026 at 10:04 PM, Euler said:

As a Nevada (or potentially Arkansas, Idaho, Mississippi, Texas, or Virginia) resident, you can apply for a nonresident concealed carry license in Illinois. The CCL card is now the same card as the FOID.

Nonresident possession of a firearm in Illinois is limited, but possible. You haven't said how you intend to possess a firearm (type, where, when) in Illinois. Without additional information, a blanket "yes" or "no" answer to your question ("can [I] legally possess a firearm in Illinois as a non-resident") is impossible to say.

I intend to possess a firearm in Illinois for the sole purpose of completing the required training in order to obtain a non-resident concealed carry license, in turn for the sole purpose of ensuring the false reporting that was the basis of revoking my FOID and CCL to begin with is never used to violate my rights again with no due process. Everything all along decided by the police without ever trying to confirm the false reporting once or ever having the opportunity to appear before a judge. Like I said, evil cesspool.

 

But it doesn't matter how I intend to possess a firearm, all that matters is that my right to do so is no longer violated with lies.

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On 3/28/2026 at 9:46 PM, casey212 said:

Reapply for what? FOID cards are only for Illinois residents.

 

 

I'm sorry, I thought you said you had returned to Illinois as a resident.  I must have gotten topics confused.

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On 3/28/2026 at 10:04 PM, Euler said:

As a Nevada (or potentially Arkansas, Idaho, Mississippi, Texas, or Virginia) resident, you can apply for a nonresident concealed carry license in Illinois. The CCL card is now the same card as the FOID.

Nonresident possession of a firearm in Illinois is limited, but possible. You haven't said how you intend to possess a firearm (type, where, when) in Illinois. Without additional information, a blanket "yes" or "no" answer to your question ("can [I] legally possess a firearm in Illinois as a non-resident") is impossible to say.

I also want to point out that I would be seeking to restore my rights even if I currently had no intent at all to use them currently. This was the case when I had originally obtained my CCL as an Illinois resident. I had my CCL for years, but never once actually carried a firearm or owned a holster. Until I moved to Nevada, which did not require a license. Our rights do not require a pre-approved use case. And if the need ever came up for whatever reason, I shouldn't need to wait for months of beuracracy, which as recently demonstrated, could be the difference between life and death.

 

But now, with the false reporting, not only is the beuracracy a concern, but it only becomes more difficult with time to disprove a false accusation. I doubt Officer Chad Benavidez would even recall why he stated his false information as a fact in the clear and present danger form with no indication of where that false information even came from over 5 years ago. My medical records which contradict that false reporting and have been withheld from me (in violation of my HIPAA rights) are only retained for so long. So I cannot wait until I have a need or intent to restore my rights.

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On March 29, 2026 at 11:36 AM CDT, casey212 said:
... false information as a fact in the clear and present danger ...

Stating up front that the issue was a C&PD report might have avoided some misunderstanding. Nevertheless, getting an IL CCL, resident or nonresident, is no guarantee that a cop, doctor, or school administrator won't drop another C&PD report on you in the future (with the same effect).

However, because you live in a "substantially similar" state, you were at least allowed to clear your record. People who live in any of the other 43 states are pretty much SOL when it comes to getting IL prohibitors removed from their records.

Meanwhile, what you intend to possess in IL and when and how you intend to possess it are subject to IL laws. You may disagree with those laws (as many of us do), but they still apply to you in IL.
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On 3/29/2026 at 12:53 PM, Euler said:


Stating up front that the issue was a C&PD report might have avoided some misunderstanding. Nevertheless, getting an IL CCL, resident or nonresident, is no guarantee that a cop, doctor, or school administrator won't drop another C&PD report on you in the future (with the same effect).

However, because you live in a "substantially similar" state, you were at least allowed to clear your record. People who live in any of the other 43 states are pretty much SOL when it comes to getting IL prohibitors removed from their records.

Meanwhile, what you intend to possess in IL and when and how you intend to possess it are subject to IL laws. You may disagree with those laws (as many of us do), but they still apply to you in IL.

There is nothing anyone can do to prevent someone from reporting false information, except for not being in Illinois I suppose. But that has absolutely no relevance here. So I have no idea why you are even bringing that up. How was I allowed to clear my record? I didn't do anything to make my status "Unedited", and that seems to have no relevance to where I reside currently. Is my record clear currently? Apparently not if that other user had an "Unedited" status yet was still denied thir FOID card when they applied. Of course I would be subject to state laws no matter where I am, and the state would be subject to the 2nd and 14th amendments. I feel like I'm talking to an AI chat bot or something.

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On 3/29/2026 at 6:48 PM, casey212 said:

How was I allowed to clear my record? I didn't do anything to make my status "Unedited", and that seems to have no relevance to where I reside currently. Is my record clear currently?

 

So for a quick recap of your situation and hopefully some context as to where the ISP may be coming from.

 

Recap of actions you noted:

  • FOID was revoked 2/10/2021
  • Moved to Nevada October 2021
  • FOID is currently in an “Unedited” status 12/08/2025
  • [You make no mention of reapplying or trying to renew your FOID]
  • Submission of "Request for FOID Investigation, Relief and Reinstatement of Firearms Rights"- March, 2026

Some Regulations/Administrative rules and/or laws that may be in play (I am not a lawyer):

  • Once a FOID is revoked, you need to surrender (or destroy) the card. [Was this done in 2021?]
  • Once you move, you should formally notify the Illinois State Police (ISP) [Was this done?]
  • Only Illinois residence may be issued a FOID. (Exceptions for active military and out of state residents working (needing a FOID)vin Illinois)?
  • Since you left, there are new additional steps that individuals need to go through with a revocation of a FOID  (https://isp.illinois.gov/Foid/FoidRevoked)
  • Other than the change in status to "unedited", you make mention for the reason to change your status on your FOID. [Do you want an active FOID, is your Illinois FOID status holding you back on other legal processes?]

Some additional observations:

  • The ISP rules and processes are allegedly some of the most complicated (to navigate) in the nation. 
  • The ISP currently appears to be more focused on denying access to cards.
  • The ISP has apparently had some staffing deficiencies which may have impacted processing.
  • The ISP has upgraded its FOID (and CCL) processing system (FLARES) (August, 2023)
  • The ISP holds application and processing information very close to its vest. [Getting information as to their decisions can be difficult]
  • Unedited status may be triggered for several reasons.
  • One method (and may be the only way) to work through the unedited status may be to reapply for the FOID, and work through the denial reasons.
  • The ISP occasionally verifies FOID information the the IL Sec. of State. This is done to verify address information.
  • Contacting the ISP directly can be very to extremely difficult.

So what might be happening here- from the information above, and review of other posts and outside sources.

 

You may have gone to "unedited" status for several reasons such as your revocation, move, or maybe trigging it by submitting an application or renewal. Either way, you do not currently have an active FOID card. If you currently live out of state, and do not work in Illinois or are active military, you might be challenged here. Without being a "qualified" applicant for the FOID, the ISP might not have interest in your "issues". [If you are not currently eligible for a FOID, the ISP might not have interest in the history of your FOID status.] You might not have "standing" in the eyes of the ISP.

 

Now, if for some reason your FOID status/history is incorrect and it is having (documented) impact on your legal history, you may have some recourse to "tidy up" your FOID records.

 

So to bring everything together, the purpose of your desire to clean up your FOID record probably has some impact here. If for some reason you do not qualify and are applying for a current FOID, you might be "hog tied" here. An overall suggestion here is, if you qualify and wish to reapply, welcome back to Illinois and good luck.

 

If you are looking to clean up your record for another reason, you might need some additional (or legal) assistance. As noted above, the ISP (very) tightly holds onto information and is focused on current (or potential) FOID card holder. If this is your situation, I wish you luck in getting your issues resolved.

 

As you have filed the Request for FOID Investigation, Relief and Reinstatement of Firearms Rights, you are probably on the right track.

 

I do see some of your frustrations here and do not feel that you are in an enviable situation. The state has created some complicated processes and systems to "administer rights" which many believe were granted to the citizens by the constitution. This forum has some outstanding (human) resources to assist. Maybe the additional information that you receive from your request will lead you to a resolution of your issues.

 

Good luck, and if you could, please keep the forum posted as to the results. It may help others on the future.

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On 3/29/2026 at 8:15 PM, Stats said:

 

So for a quick recap of your situation and hopefully some context as to where the ISP may be coming from.

 

Recap of actions you noted:

  • FOID was revoked 2/10/2021
  • Moved to Nevada October 2021
  • FOID is currently in an “Unedited” status 12/08/2025
  • [You make no mention of reapplying or trying to renew your FOID]
  • Submission of "Request for FOID Investigation, Relief and Reinstatement of Firearms Rights"- March, 2026

Some Regulations/Administrative rules and/or laws that may be in play (I am not a lawyer):

  • Once a FOID is revoked, you need to surrender (or destroy) the card. [Was this done in 2021?]
  • Once you move, you should formally notify the Illinois State Police (ISP) [Was this done?]
  • Only Illinois residence may be issued a FOID. (Exceptions for active military and out of state residents working (needing a FOID)vin Illinois)?
  • Since you left, there are new additional steps that individuals need to go through with a revocation of a FOID  (https://isp.illinois.gov/Foid/FoidRevoked)
  • Other than the change in status to "unedited", you make mention for the reason to change your status on your FOID. [Do you want an active FOID, is your Illinois FOID status holding you back on other legal processes?]

Some additional observations:

  • The ISP rules and processes are allegedly some of the most complicated (to navigate) in the nation. 
  • The ISP currently appears to be more focused on denying access to cards.
  • The ISP has apparently had some staffing deficiencies which may have impacted processing.
  • The ISP has upgraded its FOID (and CCL) processing system (FLARES) (August, 2023)
  • The ISP holds application and processing information very close to its vest. [Getting information as to their decisions can be difficult]
  • Unedited status may be triggered for several reasons.
  • One method (and may be the only way) to work through the unedited status may be to reapply for the FOID, and work through the denial reasons.
  • The ISP occasionally verifies FOID information the the IL Sec. of State. This is done to verify address information.
  • Contacting the ISP directly can be very to extremely difficult.

So what might be happening here- from the information above, and review of other posts and outside sources.

 

You may have gone to "unedited" status for several reasons such as your revocation, move, or maybe trigging it by submitting an application or renewal. Either way, you do not currently have an active FOID card. If you currently live out of state, and do not work in Illinois or are active military, you might be challenged here. Without being a "qualified" applicant for the FOID, the ISP might not have interest in your "issues". [If you are not currently eligible for a FOID, the ISP might not have interest in the history of your FOID status.] You might not have "standing" in the eyes of the ISP.

 

Now, if for some reason your FOID status/history is incorrect and it is having (documented) impact on your legal history, you may have some recourse to "tidy up" your FOID records.

 

So to bring everything together, the purpose of your desire to clean up your FOID record probably has some impact here. If for some reason you do not qualify and are applying for a current FOID, you might be "hog tied" here. An overall suggestion here is, if you qualify and wish to reapply, welcome back to Illinois and good luck.

 

If you are looking to clean up your record for another reason, you might need some additional (or legal) assistance. As noted above, the ISP (very) tightly holds onto information and is focused on current (or potential) FOID card holder. If this is your situation, I wish you luck in getting your issues resolved.

 

As you have filed the Request for FOID Investigation, Relief and Reinstatement of Firearms Rights, you are probably on the right track.

 

I do see some of your frustrations here and do not feel that you are in an enviable situation. The state has created some complicated processes and systems to "administer rights" which many believe were granted to the citizens by the constitution. This forum has some outstanding (human) resources to assist. Maybe the additional information that you receive from your request will lead you to a resolution of your issues.

 

Good luck, and if you could, please keep the forum posted as to the results. It may help others on the future.

  • My FOID card was taken by Officer Chad Benavidez before I learned of his false reporting in or the existence of a C&PD
  • Why would I be required to notify the ISP that I moved if I no longer had a FOID or CCL?
  • I've already made it very clear I cannot obtain a FOID and never attempted to after it was revoked.
  • Once again, all that surrendering was all handled by the lying police officer, Chad Benavidez
  • I never made any mention of any change to my FOID status besides it being revoked except for "Uedited" which I only just learned about and have no idea what prompted it. Like you already said, I cannot obtain a FOID and would not need a FOID as a non-resident. Is my FOID status holding me back? Once again, you tell me! It isn't even clear what "Unedited" means. Can I legally possess a firearm in Illinois? I don't need to demonstrate a need for my rights in order for them to matter. There is no such pre-requisite in the 2nd amendment.

I don't care what the ISP has interest in. I care about the US Constition and the freedoms it guarantees. And I will stop at nothing to ensure that the trampling of those freedoms WITHOUT DUE PROCESS stops immediately. You say I'm "on the right track" with the Request for FOID Investigation, Relief and Reinstatement of Firearms Rights, but the e-mail I received suggests they won't even review it. So it seems my next course of action is to apply for a CCL. I can't apply for a FOID, so I guess that is what they want me to apply for. It definitely feels like I'm chatting with an AI chat bot. You are very verbose, yet repeatedly ignore the facts which were already established.

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On 3/27/2026 at 8:42 PM, casey212 said:

My FOID was revoked 2/10/2021, and I moved to Nevada October 2021. I didn't submit my "Request for FOID Investigation, Relief and Reinstatement of Firearms Rights" form until this month.

 

I apologize that I cannot see in your previous posts that you had gone through the entire surrender process with the ISP. Obviously, with the surrender of your FOID, you should not need to notify the ISP of your address change. I apologize for the verbose post. Having held a FOID for over 40 years, and having a CCL for over 10 years, I have noted (like you are living through) that in the license schemes that have been created, sometimes even the most minute item (true or not) can completely uproot the process.

 

Good luck with your pursuit. Keep fighting the good fight. Maybe, in pursuit of your goal, you will help to eliminate the FOID forever.

 

A non-AI resource.

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On 3/30/2026 at 10:06 AM, Bubbacs said:

Get a lawyer!  *not a chat bot*

 

On 3/28/2026 at 8:00 PM, casey212 said:

Too bad there are no competent attorneys there who actually stand up to them, but just game the system for profit.

 

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Actually, we have some quite good attorneys who do not come close to your evaluation. Sorry your experience has been difficult.  Please keep us posted if you want.  Like Stats said, the info could be helpful to others in a similar situation.

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On 3/30/2026 at 1:21 PM, Molly B. said:

Actually, we have some quite good attorneys who do not come close to your evaluation. Sorry your experience has been difficult.  Please keep us posted if you want.  Like Stats said, the info could be helpful to others in a similar situation.

I've contacted two attorneys from this forum alone. Neither even seemed to be aware that non-residents can qualify for an Illinois CCL. One hung up on me for daring to consider that he may be wrong. The other tried to play it off like he made his blanket "as a non-resident, you are not eligible" statement because he thought I was from Florida even I said Nevada twice. So that alone seems disqualifying. But then he was trying to get a $3500 retainer without even explaining what my current situation is, what he would do that is different from what I have already done, or what he would do about the false reporting. And that wouldn't even include the CCL at all, or if that got denied. They just want their easy cash following the path of least resistance. None of them challenge the unconstitutional way the ISP is doing things.

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On 3/30/2026 at 3:57 PM, casey212 said:

None of them challenge the unconstitutional way the ISP is doing things.

 

 

Well,  yes, they do because that is how the FOID review board was forced to change their rules.  Now we have to gather evidence to file the next case against them. We rarely get big wins here in Illinois,  it's a slow painful step at a time. But, it's like stepping stones. One leads to the next. 

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On 3/31/2026 at 11:06 AM, Molly B. said:

 

 

Well,  yes, they do because that is how the FOID review board was forced to change their rules.  Now we have to gather evidence to file the next case against them. We rarely get big wins here in Illinois,  it's a slow painful step at a time. But, it's like stepping stones. One leads to the next. 

What rules have they changed? Besides using more false reporting and retroactively revoking FOID cards based on reporting that wasn't used when the FOID cards were issued. I find it hard to believe it can be worse than it is currently, so I'm genuinely curious about the details of what you're talking about. You have no idea how many Illinois attorneys I've called. And my case seems textbook for violation of due process rights. I would love to litigate what was the basis of my revocation. I've done everything I could to make the truth matter. And what I posted is the only response I've managed to get from ISP for over 5 years. Except maybe a denial of a FOIA request.

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Seems you aren't looking for suggestions to help.  Many here are very helpful in fact.  Maybe a hundred have gotten FOID's due to the help here and the attorneys listed herein.  Calling those who attempt to reply to the ongoing posts "Bots" would seem to indicate you have a process YOU want to have done but have no avenue to achieve it.  I wish you well and look forward to the finished product and how you achieved it.  Good Luck.

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On 3/31/2026 at 2:44 PM, Bubbacs said:

Seems you aren't looking for suggestions to help.  Many here are very helpful in fact.  Maybe a hundred have gotten FOID's due to the help here and the attorneys listed herein.  Calling those who attempt to reply to the ongoing posts "Bots" would seem to indicate you have a process YOU want to have done but have no avenue to achieve it.  I wish you well and look forward to the finished product and how you achieved it.  Good Luck.

I didn't call anyone a bot. I said it was like talking to a bot. I'm pretty sure they were utilizing AI, which can often have difficulty distinquishing between what is a quote and what is presented as fact, resulting in confusing and counter-productive feedback while muddying the waters. This thread would be much better without their misuse of AI. But it isn't like your post was a very helpful contribution either. But there was one person who actually shared relevant experience from another user. THAT was helpful. THAT actually helped point me in the right direction. So I guess my post was not a total waste.

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To try and get this hijacked thread back on track, I'll summarize the relevant facts. Correct me if I'm wrong or potentially making assumptions.

  • After a seemingly arbitrary period of time, a FOID "revoked" status will become "Unedited" because the prohibitor ages out
  • For Illinois residents, this would require you to apply again for a FOID, as you can no longer appeal the "revoked" status
  • For Illinois residents, they may still be denied a FOID upon applying based on the prohibitor which had aged out.

So, what does this mean for non-residents? I see three possibilities:

  1. without a "revoked" status, you have the same rights as any other non-resident who never had a FOID
  2. the "Unedited" status is effectively the same as "revoked", except you can no longer appeal leaving you in a black hole where your rights are infringed on forever with no recourse
  3. my appeal was improperly handled, which I think would be effectively the same result as #2

I'm inclined to assume #1. I have no reason to believe that an "Unedited" status would prohibit me from doing anything that any other non-resident would be able to do. But since that does not mean my record is cleared, my next course of action would be to apply for a CCL as a non-resident. I only need to decide if I want to fulfill the training requirements with a private instructor who is ISP-certified in Arizona. Or if I want to find a class in Illinois that does not require students have a FOID (some do, some do not). If the latter, then I also need to decide whether to bring my firearm in checked luggage, or to rent a firearm from someone that does not require a FOID. Also I would need to make a similar decision about ammunition. Arizona would probably be more expensive since that instructor can't fill a class, but it might we worth it to handle everything in a free state and avoid all the silly restrictions. Thomas Rovetuso of Angel One Training has been very helpful and friendly.

 

Also, if anyone searches and finds this because they are looking for an ISP-certified instructor in Nevada, Stephen Holford says:

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I'm no longer certified, I haven't taught a class in probably three years, and my name is still on there and I told them and it drives me nuts!

 

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On 3/31/2026 at 7:49 PM, casey212 said:

To try and get this hijacked thread back on track, I'll summarize the relevant facts. Correct me if I'm wrong or potentially making assumptions.

 

As to keep the thread on track, below is a response to your specific request, as well as input(s) on your assumptions.

 

Specific responses to the original post:

Original question from post:

Response:

What does that [“unedited”] mean?

[Inferred] A cardholder or application does not (or did not) meet the appropriate requirements.

If my status is not "revoked" anymore, does that mean I can legally possess a firearm in Illinois as a non-resident?

[And if your status is not active] Under the auspices of the FOID card, most likely not.

What could have happened on 12/08/2025?

A lot.

Why does the ISP need to be as cryptic as possible?

It is their (and the legislature’s) process.

 

Specific responses to your last post:

Your “facts” or assumptions

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After a seemingly arbitrary period of time, a FOID "revoked" status will become "Unedited" because the prohibitor ages out

Yes, this appears to be one of the reasons why a card/application will go to unedited status. (But there are probably many more factors.)

[for non-residents] the "Unedited" status is effectively the same as "revoked", except you can no longer appeal, except you can no longer appeal leaving you in a black hole…

This statement may not be entirely correct.

my appeal [filed as a non-resident] was improperly handled

An undetermined assumption or potentially a non-legal opinion”. Would need legal or judicial inputs.

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Upon restoring my access to my ISP portal account I forgot I had in preparation for applying for my IL CCL, I learned that "Unedited" seems to refer to a FOID application. I had e-mailed ISP seeking clarifications on which check boxes would be applicable to my situation. Shockingly, not only did they respond to my e-mail with a letter sent to the OLD address from my FOID which had been revoked years prior, but they took it upon themselves to initiate a FOID application with my old address information. As a software developer, their web portal makes me cringe, but I seem to have managed to update my address information (even though it stil displays my old, old address under "APPLICATION SUMMARY") and cancel the FOID application they initiated on 12/08/2025. Now my FOID status is neither "revoked" nor "unedited", but "Not on File", which is consistent with a non-resident with no restrictions. My CCL status is "Revoked", but since I cancelled the FOID application they initiated, I can now correctly select my state of residence when I go to apply.

 

After completing the training, I will update here whether or not they deny my CCL application requiring I submit yet another appeal. And ignore the troll trying to derail the thread again.

  • 2 weeks later...
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I completed my training and tried to apply for a CCL. Their web portal let me update my address history (again), upload all my documents, go through the whole process, then when I click to submit and pay, it kicks me back out to the dashboard.

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Your submission could not be approved because of a statutory prohibitor in your background. Please review your revocation letter for more information. Most recent FOID and CCL correspondence can be found by clicking the, "Correspondence" tab in your dashboard. For more information about the appeal process please visit the Firearms Services Bureau, "Types of Appeals" website at isp.illinois.gov/TypesOfAppeals. For a list of available forms and appeal checklists, go to isp.illinois.gov/foid/forms. Also, contact the FOID Record Challenge Unit here: isp.frcu@illinois.gov.

 

They keep e-mailing me that I need to "reapply as an out of state applicant", presumably for a FOID card. I keep telling them I'm not eligible for a FOID card nor is it necessary for a Nevada resident. But they say I can only appeal after I get denied, but I know I will get denied for not being a resident. But their portal won't let me apply for a CCL. So I have no denial to appeal and nothing I can apply for, even though I meet all the requirements for a non-resident CCL. I guess it is time to search for a competent Illinois attorney again, now that it has been over 5 years.

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I began contacting Illinois attorneys today, and managed to find one who was ethical and competent: A.S. Durrani. He didn't try to get $3500 from me before he would answer any questions. We talked briefly, he asked for my correspondence with ISP, then he sent me the super-secret procedure for non-residents to seek Illinois firearm prohibitor relief. You do need to go through the FOID application procedure, but the part that FRCU was withholding from me is that you need to ignore instructions and enter placeholders instead of a law enforcement employer. "It may look like employment documentation is required, but it is not."

 

What a screwy system. I mentioned before "As a software developer, their web portal makes me cringe". Even moreso with all this nonsense. But then I noticed that the whole web portal seems to be designed by my employer's competitor. I would have built a much better system. But maybe it was meant to be unusable.

OOS FOID letter to applicant.pdf

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The Illinois State Police Firearms Record Challenge Unit (FRCU) has received your application for a FOID card. Your app was rejected because you are an Out of State Resident. However, this rejection will be considered as the initiation of your Request for Relief from your firearm prohibitor. Once you receive notice of your rejection ¿DO NOT RESUBMIT YOUR APPLICATION¿ Your appeal has been processed and a referral has been sent to the FOID Card Review Board (FCRB). FRCU cannot provide any updates or time estimates on behalf of the FCRB. Any further correspondence regarding this appeal will come from the FCRB. ISP FRCU

 

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