nulloverride Posted December 18, 2025 at 09:08 PM Posted December 18, 2025 at 09:08 PM Does this have any impact on gun ownership? Or is it basically no change, there? Background: On 12/18/25, President Trump signed an executive order rescheduling Marijuana from Schedule 1 to Schedule 3.
davel501 Posted December 18, 2025 at 10:40 PM Posted December 18, 2025 at 10:40 PM The leftists are so confused right now. "If not fren, why fren-shaped?"
soundguy Posted December 18, 2025 at 11:25 PM Posted December 18, 2025 at 11:25 PM There is no confusion. Marijuana is still classified as a drug. Marijuana use may still prohibit you from buying a gun. Cheers, Tim
davel501 Posted December 19, 2025 at 01:58 AM Posted December 19, 2025 at 01:58 AM On 12/18/2025 at 5:25 PM, soundguy said: There is no confusion. Marijuana is still classified as a drug. Marijuana use may still prohibit you from buying a gun. Cheers, Tim Da Nile ain't just a river in Egypt.
Euler Posted December 19, 2025 at 02:54 AM Posted December 19, 2025 at 02:54 AM The 4473 still says "Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance?" In the meantime, Bondi is still pursuing convictions (overturning acquittals) for firearm possession by people who had only misdemeanor drug possession convictions (or even just verbal admissions without charges) in several cases petitioned to the US Supreme Court. She's not stopping.
davel501 Posted December 19, 2025 at 05:32 AM Posted December 19, 2025 at 05:32 AM She's on her way out from what it sounds like. I wonder if dispenseries go away now that any pharmacy can fill a prescription. Do they stick around for recreational users? Do the feds crack down now? The biggest thing in my mind is that the airport was the only place you could go and not smell weed. Guessing that changes quick.
mikew Posted December 19, 2025 at 03:26 PM Posted December 19, 2025 at 03:26 PM On 12/18/2025 at 11:32 PM, davel501 said: The biggest thing in my mind is that the airport was the only place you could go and not smell weed. Guessing that changes quick. That O'Hare had those green "amnesty" boxes for weed without locks on them initially just reeked of bureaucratic ineptness and hungry fingers.
yurimodin Posted December 19, 2025 at 05:02 PM Posted December 19, 2025 at 05:02 PM Looks like it was another wishy washy half-measure.......... Sounds like its just being opened up to be researched so in another 20 years we might see it as actually prescribable ........meanwhile the infringements continue.
Quiet Observer Posted December 19, 2025 at 05:38 PM Posted December 19, 2025 at 05:38 PM I wonder if this will result in more arrests of pot users driving through Indiana between Michigan and Illinois.
davel501 Posted December 19, 2025 at 06:09 PM Posted December 19, 2025 at 06:09 PM On 12/19/2025 at 11:02 AM, yurimodin said: Looks like it was another wishy washy half-measure.......... Sounds like its just being opened up to be researched so in another 20 years we might see it as actually prescribable ........meanwhile the infringements continue. That's not how I'm reading it https://apnews.com/article/trump-reclassify-marijuana-cannibas-legal-marijuana-federal-ab2aec5865dd140bac00b7cef5de89c5
yurimodin Posted December 19, 2025 at 06:17 PM Posted December 19, 2025 at 06:17 PM (edited) On 12/19/2025 at 12:09 PM, davel501 said: That's not how I'm reading it https://apnews.com/article/trump-reclassify-marijuana-cannibas-legal-marijuana-federal-ab2aec5865dd140bac00b7cef5de89c5 Until its off the 4473 and you can get a CDL while at least having a med-card and also not get fired at most jobs then its not legal. Edited December 19, 2025 at 06:18 PM by yurimodin
davel501 Posted December 19, 2025 at 06:32 PM Posted December 19, 2025 at 06:32 PM On 12/19/2025 at 12:17 PM, yurimodin said: Until its off the 4473 and you can get a CDL while at least having a med-card and also not get fired at most jobs then its not legal. You've got to give people time to react. They've even cleaned up the wording that Trump's order was just telling an agency to reschedule not an actual rescheduling. Bet this takes a year or more to fully shake out.
SiliconSorcerer Posted December 19, 2025 at 06:59 PM Posted December 19, 2025 at 06:59 PM On 12/19/2025 at 12:17 PM, yurimodin said: Until its off the 4473 and you can get a CDL while at least having a med-card and also not get fired at most jobs then its not legal. Being that the liberal (B...S....) second hand smoke is accepted as factual a blood test worthless.
Jeffrey Posted December 19, 2025 at 07:53 PM Posted December 19, 2025 at 07:53 PM I'm a little surprised Trump did this considering how many people weed kills every year.
yurimodin Posted December 19, 2025 at 08:00 PM Posted December 19, 2025 at 08:00 PM On 12/19/2025 at 1:53 PM, Jeffrey said: I'm a little surprised Trump did this considering how many people weed kills every year. 🤣
EdDinIL Posted December 19, 2025 at 10:08 PM Posted December 19, 2025 at 10:08 PM On 12/19/2025 at 12:17 PM, yurimodin said: Until its off the 4473 and you can get a CDL while at least having a med-card and also not get fired at most jobs then its not legal. Can those be handled administratively through rules changes or will those two things require an act (or acts) of Congress?
Tip Posted December 19, 2025 at 10:50 PM Posted December 19, 2025 at 10:50 PM Since Trump now supports decriminalizing it will the left now shift support to criminalizing it??? Waiting for the remarks from the rotund one….
yurimodin Posted December 20, 2025 at 07:23 PM Posted December 20, 2025 at 07:23 PM On 12/19/2025 at 4:08 PM, EdDinIL said: Can those be handled administratively through rules changes or will those two things require an act (or acts) of Congress? I figure once they get to the point you can get it with a prescription then they will probably treat it like Norco as far as the 4473 goes........HOWEVER my guess is they will still discriminate on CDL's and employment tests by using the absolute bogus 0.003ng/L threshold which basically means if you have used in the last several days you will show a "DUI" even though you are completely sober.
SiliconSorcerer Posted December 20, 2025 at 08:07 PM Posted December 20, 2025 at 08:07 PM On 12/20/2025 at 1:23 PM, yurimodin said: I figure once they get to the point you can get it with a prescription then they will probably treat it like Norco as far as the 4473 goes........HOWEVER my guess is they will still discriminate on CDL's and employment tests by using the absolute bogus 0.003ng/L threshold which basically means if you have used in the last several days you will show a "DUI" even though you are completely sober. Or you were at a party last night and people were smoking it around you. I haven't seen that hold up when challenged in court.
soundguy Posted December 20, 2025 at 09:32 PM Posted December 20, 2025 at 09:32 PM On 12/19/2025 at 4:50 PM, Tip said: Since Trump now supports decriminalizing it will the left now shift support to criminalizing it??? No. Certain forces have convinced the President to seek to reclassify marijuana so the government can study and fund studies having to do with the effectiveness of its compounds for use in relieving pain and illness. It might be Secretary Kennedy. This is a good thing, which has been stymied ever since marijuana became formally classified as a dangerous drug in 1970. This is just a small step towards allowing it to be sold much as alcohol is sold. We are a long way from decriminalization. Business big and small will mostly be served by this action, should it happen. State-Legal pot shops might be able to deduct business expenses on their tax returns. They might be able to have business bank accounts. You might be able to buy pot using a credit card! Unless you know that Trump has specifically said he supports decriminalizing marijuana, I would guess he does not. He will not approve of using it for giggles. Some members of the administration may be giggle users, but who knows... Cheers, Tim
JTHunter Posted December 22, 2025 at 04:00 AM Posted December 22, 2025 at 04:00 AM There are going to be more "drunk drivers" on the roads. The problem is that there isn't an easy and reliable test for roadside testing. Yet.
soundguy Posted December 22, 2025 at 02:17 PM Posted December 22, 2025 at 02:17 PM On 12/21/2025 at 10:00 PM, JTHunter said: There are going to be more "drunk drivers" on the roads. The problem is that there isn't an easy and reliable test for roadside testing. Yet. ... behaving much like Waymo vehicles during a San Francisco blackout! Cheers, Tim
SiliconSorcerer Posted December 22, 2025 at 02:54 PM Posted December 22, 2025 at 02:54 PM On 12/21/2025 at 10:00 PM, JTHunter said: There are going to be more "drunk drivers" on the roads. The problem is that there isn't an easy and reliable test for roadside testing. Yet. People under the influence tend to drive slower and leave more space between cars, quite the opposite of drinking. I'm not a proponent, but I've heard this from several officers. Personally I tend to drives slower and leave more space than normal between cars, but my observation leaves this is far from the norm.
yurimodin Posted December 22, 2025 at 06:04 PM Posted December 22, 2025 at 06:04 PM On 12/22/2025 at 8:54 AM, SiliconSorcerer said: People under the influence tend to drive slower and leave more space between cars, quite the opposite of drinking. I'm not a proponent, but I've heard this from several officers. Personally I tend to drives slower and leave more space than normal between cars, but my observation leaves this is far from the norm. My DARE instructor told us about a guy he gave a DUI who was huffing spray paint while driving..........stupid is still stupid. On 12/21/2025 at 10:00 PM, JTHunter said: There are going to be more "drunk drivers" on the roads. The problem is that there isn't an easy and reliable test for roadside testing. Yet. These days they do the nystagmus test (eye wiggle) and bust you regardless of BAC
davel501 Posted December 22, 2025 at 06:13 PM Posted December 22, 2025 at 06:13 PM On 12/22/2025 at 12:04 PM, yurimodin said: These days they do the nystagmus test (eye wiggle) and bust you regardless of BAC If you're doing those tests you've already lost. Just junk science meant to improve the case against you.
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