Active shooter stopped in Michigan

[Euler]

ABC News said:→

An alleged active shooter intent on attacking a Michigan church on Sunday was shot and killed by a security guard who "prevented a large-scale mass shooting," police said.

The shooting unfolded around 11:15 a.m. local time at the CrossPointe Community Church in the Detroit suburb of Wayne, according to the Wayne Police Department.

"We are grateful for the heroic actions of the church's staff members who undoubtedly saved many lives and prevented a large-scale mass shooting," Wayne Police Chief Ryan Strong said during a press conference on Sunday.

The gunman was identified as a 31-year-old male. His motivations are unknown, according to police, but at this point, officials say he appears to be suffering from a mental health crisis.

Police said the suspect exited his Nissan truck wearing a tactical vest, armed with a long gun and a handgun, when he approached the church building and began firing his weapon. Several staff members from the church approached the gunman, police said, adding that a parishioner struck the gunman with his vehicle as the gunman shot the vehicle repeatedly.

At least two staff members shot the gunman, causing fatal wounds. One staff member was shot once in the leg by the suspect.

The church staff members do not wish to be identified, police said.
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The attack occurred about a half-hour after Sunday-morning services at CrossPointe Community Church started, according to police.

Officers arriving at the scene quickly evacuated the church after learning that a security guard stopped the attack by shooting and killing the suspect, according to police.

The suspect's name was not immediately released. The security guard was also not immediately identified by authorities.

[TomKoz]

We are our own First Responders !!

[Black Flag]

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officials say he appears to be suffering from a mental health crisis.

His suffering is over.

[JTHunter]

On 6/22/2025 at 7:40 PM, TomKoz said:

We are our own First Responders !!

 

And we always have been that.  Especially since the "Minute Men".

[Tango7]

Of course the hoplophobes will still insist CCW is useless, citing that this shooting was by a "security guard" and thus different than a regular citizen with a firearm...even if he was a regular parishioner who volunteered as part of a security detail. They'll also insist that a mass shooting wasn't actually stopped (despite the perp targeting a crowded venue and possessing multiple magazines of ammo) because the (conveniently flexible) requisite number of people weren't shot or killed.

Edited June 23, 2025 at 04:47 PM by Tango7

[SiliconSorcerer]

It's very odd to have PAID security guards from what I've seen.  I know several churches with volunteer crews the police carry of course also always carry.  Several also have all the audio equipment others have little to none. 

I've never ever heard of a place with paid. 

[Yeti]

I am guessing calling the members “staff” is an effort to obscure the volunteer nature of their participation.  “Volunteer staff” or “volunteer security” doesn’t match a biased media agenda.  But we shall learn more in time, just likely not from the agenda-driven mainstream media.

[Euler]

Fox 2 Detroit said:→

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Months before 31-year-old Brian Browning attacked a religious ceremony in the community of Wayne, he had visited the CrossPointe Community Church to debate with the pastor.

The Romulus man had intended to carry out a mass shooting at the church on Sunday morning. Armed with an AR-15-style rifle and 500 rounds of ammunition, he opened fire at the church before being run over by a truck driven by one of the parishioners. A security guard fatally shot him afterward.

A day later, Pastor Bobby Kelly Jr. recalled the conversation with Browning, who told him he was a prophet.

"He said he heard from God," Kelly said on Monday.
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While Browning had no criminal history, police confirmed he had been experiencing a mental health crisis in the lead-up to the shooting. There was no connection to unrest in the Middle East, despite concerns the two could be linked.
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"We are grateful for the heroic actions of the church's staff members, who undoubtedly saved many lives and prevented a large-scale mass shooting," said police chief Ryan Strong.

As for the motive behind it, the pastor is unsure what to make of Browning's actions.

[Quiet Observer]

Another reason to carry in church. 

[JTHunter]

On 6/23/2025 at 6:45 PM, Quiet Observer said:

Another reason to carry in church. 

 

Not just in churches.  Problem is the number and type of restrictions put on us by far too many states.

[John Q Public]

It's all places where we gather. With all the unknown in the US now, we need to be vigilant. 

[davel501]

On 6/25/2025 at 1:04 PM, John Q Public said:

It's all places where we gather. With all the unknown in the US now, we need to be vigilant. 

 

I'd say prepared over vigilant. Relax, enjoy life but be prepared to flip the switch when needed. Nothing more cringey than a guy at a restaurant trying to figure out which door he doesn't want his back to before his wife can sit down. 

[Quiet Observer]

On 6/25/2025 at 12:30 PM, JTHunter said:

 

Not just in churches.  Problem is the number and type of restrictions put on us by far too many states.

I was surprised that Illinois allowed CC in churches when the FCCL bill was passed. On the other hand, many bible belt states forbid carrying in church. FWIW, Michigan forbids it unless allowed by presiding official or officials. 

 

"5.  Any property or facility owned or operated by a church, synagogue, mosque, temple, or other place of  
     worship, unless the presiding official or officials allow concealed weapons."

State Name

[Tip]

On 6/25/2025 at 4:53 PM, Quiet Observer said:

I was surprised that Illinois allowed CC in churches when the FCCL bill was passed. On the other hand, many bible belt states forbid carrying in church. FWIW, Michigan forbids it unless allowed by presiding official or officials. 

 

"5.  Any property or facility owned or operated by a church, synagogue, mosque, temple, or other place of  
     worship, unless the presiding official or officials allow concealed weapons."

State Name

Perhaps the fact that one of the cases that helped sound the death toll on prohibiting CC in Illinois involved an attack in a church office…..

[mikew]

On 6/25/2025 at 7:38 PM, Tip said:

Perhaps the fact that one of the cases that helped sound the death toll on prohibiting CC in Illinois involved an attack in a church office…..

 

Imagine the national repercussions if Illinois had appealed their loss in this case to SCOTUS...

 

 

[soundguy]

On 6/25/2025 at 4:53 PM, Quiet Observer said:

I was surprised that Illinois allowed CC in churches when the FCCL bill was passed. On the other hand, many bible belt states forbid carrying in church. FWIW, Michigan forbids it unless allowed by presiding official or officials. 

 

"5.  Any property or facility owned or operated by a church, synagogue, mosque, temple, or other place of  
     worship, unless the presiding official or officials allow concealed weapons."

State Name

 

I'm guessing this is the same for any state that allows a business or property owner to prohibit weapons.

Apologies for the Google AI version below...

 

 

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In most states, concealed carry in churches is treated the same as on any other private property, meaning permission from the church leadership is often not required. However, some states do have specific restrictions. Nebraska and Louisiana are two states where concealed carry is prohibited in churches. Additionally, Washington D.C. and seven other states require permission from the church leadership to carry concealed weapons. 

 

States that prohibit concealed carry in churches:.

• Nebraska and Louisiana are the two states that explicitly prohibit concealed carry in churches.
• States that require permission:

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• Seven states, in addition to Washington D.C., require the permission of the church leader or governing body for concealed carry.
• States that treat church carry like other private property:

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• The majority of states (41) treat concealed carry in churches the same as any other private property, meaning permission from the church is generally not required.
• Georgia's law:

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• In Georgia, it is illegal to possess a firearm in a place of worship unless the governing body permits it. Permission can be given orally or in writing, but it must be granted to all or none.

 

 

 

Cheers,

Tim

[Quiet Observer]

On 6/26/2025 at 12:15 AM, soundguy said:

 

I'm guessing this is the same for any state that allows a business or property owner to prohibit weapons.

Apologies for the Google AI version below...

 

 

 

 

Cheers,

Tim

The difference is that some states like Michigan forbid weapons in churches to begin with. The church leaders have to give permission to have a weapon there. 

Those states do not automatically ban you from carrying in most businesses.

In other states your right to carry into a church or business is automatically recognized by the state. The owner, manager, pastor, etc., has to let you know that their policies do not allow weapons. 

 

I know that there are varying laws about schools, parks, trails, etc., in different states. I am just talking about churches.

[John Q Public]

Illinois doesn't care who and what court ruled on anything, as long as they have cover from the press and the state, the care not; at least those who have been appointed by the crazy left. It's done there is no reason, no debate, they don't give a fk what any court above says. We have 3-4 on the SC who rule on politics. They care NOT about the Constitution. heck, they don't even know what a woman is, but that is BS crazy azz left from the jump. I need to stop here, but the cancer is everywhere.