IL CCL expiring - out-of-state address update & non-resident conversion question

[joedav1228]

Hello everyone, it's been a while. I've since moved to Indiana. My Illinois CCL is still active but will expire in six months. I need to accomplish two tasks: update my address to reflect my out-of-state residency and determine if I can convert my Illinois CCL to a non-resident CCL. I'm unsure of the correct order to proceed.

 

Should I renew first, and is there an option to update my address during the renewal process? Or should I first use the 'edit name/address' function, wait for those changes to be processed, and then renew?

 

It's great to see MollyB is still around; she's fantastic. I read her post but the out of state thing is making me wonder.

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Edited April 3, 2025 at 01:32 PM by joedav1228

[Tip]

My understanding is Indiana residents are not eligible for non-resident Illinois CCL. 
That being the case, if you plan on updating your address DO NOT renew - you’d be throwing $$ away since as soon as you update address they’ll revoke your Illinois CCL.

[joedav1228]

On 4/3/2025 at 8:34 AM, Tip said:

Indiana residents are not eligible for non-resident Illinois CCL. 

 

Yeah, looks like I get boned.  It is what it is I suppose...

• Substantially Similar States:

  The Illinois State Police sent a survey to each state to determine which of them have laws that are substantially similar. Currently, the only states considered to be substantially similar are Hawaii, New Mexico, South Carolina and Virginia. 

[soundguy]

For others...

 

The moment you officially moved to another state, changed your address, your IL CCL is no longer valid. If you had moved to a "substantially similar" state, your IL CCL would also no longer be valid. You would need to reapply as a non-resident.

 

Cheers,

Tim

[joedav1228]

Thanks Tim

[Quiet Observer]

On 4/3/2025 at 8:53 AM, joedav1228 said:

 

Yeah, looks like I get boned.  It is what it is I suppose...

• Substantially Similar States:

  The Illinois State Police sent a survey to each state to determine which of them have laws that are substantially similar. Currently, the only states considered to be substantially similar are Hawaii, New Mexico, South Carolina and Virginia. 

If you are driving in Illinois, you can still carry while in your vehicle. 

 

 Sec. 40. (e) Nothing in this Act shall prohibit a non-resident from transporting a concealed firearm within his or her vehicle in Illinois, if the concealed firearm remains within his or her vehicle and the non-resident:
        (1) is not prohibited from owning or possessing a firearm under federal law;
       

(2) is eligible to carry a firearm in public under the laws of his or her state or territory of residence, as evidenced by the possession of a concealed carry license or permit issued by his or her state of residence, if applicable; and
      

(3) is not in possession of a license under this Act.
    If the non-resident leaves his or her vehicle unattended, he or she shall store the firearm within a locked vehicle or locked container within the vehicle in accordance with subsection (b) of Section 65 of this Act.
(Source: P.A. 102-538, eff. 8-20-21.) 

430 ILCS 66/  Firearm Concealed Carry Act. 

 

 

[Euler]

On April 3, 2025 at 08:53 AM CDT, joedav1228 said:→

...
The Illinois State Police sent a survey to each state to determine which of them have laws that are substantially similar. Currently, the only states considered to be substantially similar are Hawaii, New Mexico, South Carolina and Virginia.

The current list of "substantially similar states" is Arkansas, Idaho, Mississippi, Nevada, Texas, and Virginia. (2018 ISP FSB survey summary)

Based on the survey categories, Illinois appears to consider constitutional carry a disqualifier, so (unless the law in Illinois changes) the next update will reduce the list to just Nevada and Virginia.

[Yeti]

On 4/4/2025 at 7:07 AM, Euler said:

 

The current list of "substantially similar states" is Arkansas, Idaho, Mississippi, Nevada, Texas, and Virginia. (2018 ISP FSB survey summary)

Based on the survey categories, Illinois appears to consider constitutional carry a disqualifier, so (unless the law in Illinois changes) the next update will reduce the list to just Nevada and Virginia.

 

At the rate they’re going this legislative session, maybe they’ll soon add Cuba and Venezuela as “substantially similar”.  Seems to be the direction they want to head!

[joedav1228]

I'm surprised the list of "substantially similar states" wasn't limited to MA, NY, NJ & CA to be honest.

 

Similar to how Massachusetts has its approved firearm rosters, which manufacturers must go out of their way to appease, resulting in most brands deciding that "selling in Massachusetts isn't worth the hassle," I'm sure Illinois sending out its laundry list of requirements to other states results in even similar states not wanting to bother, which, in the end, is probably part of the desired outcome.

 

Guys...the first thing I did when I moved to Indiana, less than a week in, was buy a transferable firearm and a suppressor.

[Molly B.]

Yes,  still here slugging away!

 

Unfortunately, the guys are right. Indiana is not rated as substantially similar. 

 

I hope to see reciprocity in a few years...

[ScottFM]

I can understand the 'substantially similar' for granting reciprocal carry rights. But what I can't understand is why Illinois would not want to grant a non-resident card to someone who has the training from an Illinois instructor and is paying for the card? Seems like a missed revenue opportunity for Illinois. 

[Molly B.]

All valid arguments. We've been fighting this since before the carry law was passed - we will continue to fight.

[soundguy]

On 4/8/2025 at 11:18 AM, ScottFM said:

I can understand the 'substantially similar' for granting reciprocal carry rights. But what I can't understand is why Illinois would not want to grant a non-resident card to someone who has the training from an Illinois instructor and is paying for the card? Seems like a missed revenue opportunity for Illinois. 

 

My crazy guess... once you have relocated to a state which does not report in the same manner as Illinois, tomorrow you might do something bad and it will not be reported. It's not all about the training, or the revenue.

 

Cheers,

Tim

[John Q Public]

The big issue is HIPAA, other states don't let the Gov rummage through med files, or sealed minor records etc. The thing is, you could wave that for Illinois and then the excuse goes away, but that's not what they want, they want to prevent granting permits wherever they can. 

[101abn]

On 4/4/2025 at 7:58 PM, Molly B. said:

Yes,  still here slugging away!

 

Unfortunately, the guys are right. Indiana is not rated as substantially similar. 

 

I hope to see reciprocity in a few years...

https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/38