DOJ launches investigation into LA County Sheriff for 2A violations

[steveTA84]

People ignored my thread in the back room and I was way ahead of the curve lol 

 

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/us-department-justice-announces-second-amendment-pattern-or-practice-investigation
 

 

 

Protecting the Second Amendment rights of ordinary, law-abiding Americans is a high priority for this Administration.

As part of a broader review of restrictive firearms-related laws in California and other States, the Department of Justice’s Civil Rights Division today announced an investigation into the Los Angeles Sheriff’s Department to determine whether it is engaging in a pattern or practice of depriving ordinary, law-abiding Californians of their Second Amendment rights. A recent federal court decision found that “the law and facts [we]re clearly in … favor” of two private plaintiffs who challenged the lengthy eighteen-month delays that the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department had imposed when processing their concealed handgun license applications. And the Civil Rights Division has reason to believe that those two plaintiffs are not the only residents of Los Angeles County experiencing similarly long delays that are unduly burdening, or effectively denying, the Second Amendment rights of the people of Los Angeles.

The Supreme Court has repeatedly recognized that the Second Amendment is not “a second-class right.” And over the past two decades, the Supreme Court has recognized that the Second Amendment is a fundamental, individual constitutional right and has taken multiple opportunities to strengthen Second Amendment protections for ordinary, law-abiding citizens.

Some States and localities, however, have resisted this recent pro-Second Amendment caselaw. And California has been a particularly egregious offender. In response to recent Supreme Court caselaw, California enacted new legislation to further restrict the ability of ordinary, law-abiding Californians to keep and bear arms. And many California localities appear to be imposing additional burdens beyond those required by California state law, including by subjecting ordinary, law-abiding Californians to expensive fees and lengthy weight times associated with applications for concealed handgun licenses.

“This Department of Justice will not stand idly by while States and localities infringe on the Second Amendment rights of ordinary, law-abiding Americans,” said Attorney General Pamela Bondi. “The Second Amendment is not a second-class right, and under my watch, the Department will actively enforce the Second Amendment just like it actively enforces other fundamental constitutional rights.”

Attorney General Bondi hopes that states and localities will voluntarily embrace their duty to protect the Second Amendment rights of their citizens. But if necessary, today’s announcement will be the first of many similar investigations, lawsuits, or other actions involving other localities in California, the State of California itself, and any other states or localities that insist on unduly burdening, or effectively denying, the Second Amendment rights of their ordinary, law-abiding citizens.

[steveTA84]

I’m trying again with the FOID card and a compliant against the ISP. Stay tuned 

[steveTA84]

And filed 

 

 

Beginning July 1, 1968, all illinois residents were required to have a FOID card in order to legally own, transfer and purchase a firearm. That law still exists today. The reason for the law was to dissuade minorities (specifically African Americans during a time of racial riots/unrest and distrust amongst racial groups and law enforcement) from seeking police permission to legally own firearms. The law was enacted and used to target urban (Chicago) black people and charge them with firearms crimes when prior they couldn’t. In fact, Senator Arrington even said that it was “better” than the recently (at the time) enacted Mulford Act in CA, which was a response to members of the Black Panthers openly carrying firearms at the State Legislature and since they were breaking no law, couldn’t be charged with a crime. The Mulford Act changed that. In Illinois, then Mayor Daley was “worried” about the number of non-whites who possessed firearms in the suburbs. This is documented in a call he had with LBJ. Daley obviously supported the law, but he wanted it to go further and be a gun registry, not just a registry of owners. 

Soon after the FOID Act was enforced, the numbers started pouring in, and it was working as intended. African Americans (“urban areas”) were by far the most charged with a crime, thus the law was working as intended. The law also imposed steep fines for not possessing a FOID and being caught with a gun, which for a first offense was equivalent to $7600 today. More info (limited for words) on the facts (such as newspaper articles from the time) is listed here. Too much to fit in this complaint of an unconstitutional law enforced by the IL State Police we all still are forced to follow. 
 

https://www.mom-at-arms.com/post/turns-out-the-foid-card-exists-because-of-racial-tensions-and-armed-blacks

 

Additionally, the law (funding for FOID card and carry licenses) is used now as a “piggy bank” by the IL General Assembly to fund other projects, leading to delays in processing (weeks to months even). More on that here:

 

https://www.mom-at-arms.com/post/illinois-foid-concealed-carry-license-fees-where-s-all-the-money-going

 

https://www.wjbc.com/2020/02/04/gun-group-sues-illinois-state-police-for-allowing-lawmakers-to-divert-foid-fees-for-other-state-spending/

 

A documented case of a 20 month wait:

https://www.rockislandauction.com/riac-blog/my-foid-card-misadventure

 

Finally, I’d like to mention Vivian Brown,  a woman with no criminal record who was charged with a crime for possessing a single shot rifle in her home without a FOID. Her case is being punted around because the state Supreme Court seems to not want to address it (it’s been all over the state courts and punted back since 2017 to now) because it’s obviously unconstitutional to pay a fee and wait for a “right”for people who otherwise can exercise it. 

 

https://www.thecentersquare.com/illinois/article_f15c6196-e7e5-11ef-9194-a3af0ce3e677.amp.html

 

Thank you for considering this complaint in which the residents of IL have been putting up with this civil rights violation based on racial targeting for 57 years.

[davel501]

"lengthy WEIGHT times" 🤣🤣🤣

[steveTA84]

On 3/27/2025 at 9:12 PM, davel501 said:

"lengthy WEIGHT times" 🤣🤣🤣

She’s blonde lol 

[steveTA84]

 

[davel501]

On 3/27/2025 at 9:14 PM, steveTA84 said:

She’s blonde lol 

 

Think of how many people were supposed to have reviewed that document. I wish I could be a fly on the wall when they realize. 

[mikew]

On 3/27/2025 at 9:12 PM, davel501 said:

"lengthy WEIGHT times" 🤣🤣🤣

My money is on a college-educated intern taking dictation.

[steveTA84]

On 3/27/2025 at 9:08 PM, steveTA84 said:

And filed 

 

 

Beginning July 1, 1968, all illinois residents were required to have a FOID card in order to legally own, transfer and purchase a firearm. That law still exists today. The reason for the law was to dissuade minorities (specifically African Americans during a time of racial riots/unrest and distrust amongst racial groups and law enforcement) from seeking police permission to legally own firearms. The law was enacted and used to target urban (Chicago) black people and charge them with firearms crimes when prior they couldn’t. In fact, Senator Arrington even said that it was “better” than the recently (at the time) enacted Mulford Act in CA, which was a response to members of the Black Panthers openly carrying firearms at the State Legislature and since they were breaking no law, couldn’t be charged with a crime. The Mulford Act changed that. In Illinois, then Mayor Daley was “worried” about the number of non-whites who possessed firearms in the suburbs. This is documented in a call he had with LBJ. Daley obviously supported the law, but he wanted it to go further and be a gun registry, not just a registry of owners. 

Soon after the FOID Act was enforced, the numbers started pouring in, and it was working as intended. African Americans (“urban areas”) were by far the most charged with a crime, thus the law was working as intended. The law also imposed steep fines for not possessing a FOID and being caught with a gun, which for a first offense was equivalent to $7600 today. More info (limited for words) on the facts (such as newspaper articles from the time) is listed here. Too much to fit in this complaint of an unconstitutional law enforced by the IL State Police we all still are forced to follow. 
 

https://www.mom-at-arms.com/post/turns-out-the-foid-card-exists-because-of-racial-tensions-and-armed-blacks

 

Additionally, the law (funding for FOID card and carry licenses) is used now as a “piggy bank” by the IL General Assembly to fund other projects, leading to delays in processing (weeks to months even). More on that here:

 

https://www.mom-at-arms.com/post/illinois-foid-concealed-carry-license-fees-where-s-all-the-money-going

 

https://www.wjbc.com/2020/02/04/gun-group-sues-illinois-state-police-for-allowing-lawmakers-to-divert-foid-fees-for-other-state-spending/

 

A documented case of a 20 month wait:

https://www.rockislandauction.com/riac-blog/my-foid-card-misadventure

 

Finally, I’d like to mention Vivian Brown,  a woman with no criminal record who was charged with a crime for possessing a single shot rifle in her home without a FOID. Her case is being punted around because the state Supreme Court seems to not want to address it (it’s been all over the state courts and punted back since 2017 to now) because it’s obviously unconstitutional to pay a fee and wait for a “right”for people who otherwise can exercise it. 

 

https://www.thecentersquare.com/illinois/article_f15c6196-e7e5-11ef-9194-a3af0ce3e677.amp.html

 

Thank you for considering this complaint in which the residents of IL have been putting up with this civil rights violation based on racial targeting for 57 years.

https://waronguns.com/holding-pattern/

[steveTA84]

Way ahead of ya lol 

[MrTriple]

This was always going to be the way forward. Absolutely unacceptable that it took this long.

[steveTA84]

https://www.ammoland.com/2025/04/doj-investigation-into-california-gun-law-patterns-and-practices-should-be-expanded/
 

A new request for DOJ investigation has been filed by the same activist who filed the first complaint (left unnamed because he is intentionally known on social media only by a screen name to protect his privacy and employability) detailing Second Amendment and civil rights violations inherent in the state’s Firearms Owner Identification card (FOID) requirement. Among the findings in the complaint:
 

• The reason for the law was to dissuade minorities (specifically African Americans during a time of racial riots/unrest and distrust amongst racial groups and law enforcement) from seeking police permission to legally own firearms.
• Funding for FOID card and carry licenses is used now as a “piggy bank” by the IL General Assembly to fund other projects, leading to delays in processing (with a documented case of a 20-month wait).
• A woman with no criminal record was charged with a crime for possessing a single shot rifle in her home without a FOID.

If AG Bondi is serious that “under [her] watch, the Department will actively enforce the Second Amendment just like it actively enforces other fundamental constitutional rights,” the Civil Rights Division will dedicate the resources to investigate this complaint and also reconsider its disinterested dismissal of the complaint about the judge.

The FOID complaint follows.

 

https://www.scribd.com/document/845246700/DOJ-Investigation-into-California-Gun-Law-Patterns-and-Practices-Should-be-Expanded-FOID-Complaint

 

 

[steveTA84]

Unearthed! Sen Arrington (author of FOID bill), two weeks after law went into effect in 1968, was trying to pass stop-and-frisk. Gee, I wonder why?……

 

https://www.newspapers.com/image/997473219/?match=1&terms=“Arrington” “frisk”

[steveTA84]

Oh boy! After FOID was passed, but before it went into effect! 
 

https://www.newspapers.com/image/997492071/?match=1&terms=“Arrington” “racist”

 

Arrington wanted stop-and-frisk to go along with FOID to allow racial profiling!

[steveTA84]

New article, and I found the golden egg proving the FOID was an oppressive tool for a wider plan to target people based on race. Arrington had a whole plan for the FOID……

 

https://www.mom-at-arms.com/post/new-evidence-on-the-origins-of-the-foid-card-and-a-complaint-to-the-dept-of-justice

 

 

[steveTA84]

Added in! When (1967) Arrington was going for both stop-and-frisk and FOID to be combined, proving yet again it was a harassment tool 

 

[steveTA84]

On 4/2/2025 at 7:13 AM, steveTA84 said:

Added in! When (1967) Arrington was going for both stop-and-frisk and FOID to be combined, proving yet again it was a harassment tool 

 

remember what Arrington said regarding the FOID law. He makes it about felons, drug addicts, etc, but see pic 3 of this article, one month after quotes article……

 

Edited April 2, 2025 at 12:33 PM by steveTA84

[yurimodin]

Why even announce an investigation. You just do the investigation and then arrest, summon, or subpoena the relevant people. Thing is NO ONE is going to be held accountable because that would require actually utilizing 1983 deprivation of rights laws. Only reason they are announcing this is to placate us until they throw the midterms and then "we can't do anything".

[steveTA84]

https://www.firearmsnews.com/editorial/atf-doj-abuse-bipolar-guns/521074

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Recently, I’ve reported on two complaints made to the DOJ Civil Rights Division, one about an Illinois Supreme Court Judge with blatant financial and political conflicts of interest who ruled to uphold the state’s “"assault weapons"” ban, and more recently, one asking them to investigate civil rights violations inherent in the state’s Firearms Owner Identification card (FOID) requirement. DOJ showed deliberate indifference to the first complaint. The second is still outstanding at this writing.

[crufflesmuth]

On 4/3/2025 at 4:04 PM, steveTA84 said:

 

https://www.firearmsnews.com/editorial/atf-doj-abuse-bipolar-guns/521074

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Recently, I’ve reported on two complaints made to the DOJ Civil Rights Division, one about an Illinois Supreme Court Judge with blatant financial and political conflicts of interest who ruled to uphold the state’s “""assault weapons""” ban, and more recently, one asking them to investigate civil rights violations inherent in the state’s Firearms Owner Identification card (FOID) requirement. DOJ showed deliberate indifference to the first complaint. The second is still outstanding at this writing.

 

It would be interesting to see FOID/CCL Data exposure as well, if the DOJ gets

around to it. I have a feeling ISRA does not want their forever war to end. 

 

For now the issues I want DOJ to address are:

 

1. FOID/CCL Data - how is it exposed? when is 

it exposed? who accesses it and when? 

 

Aside from daily background checks, if local

or state police are accessing that data - the 

person should be notified. End of story.

 

2. Whether there are any personal data

identifiers the state uses from FOID/CCL

data, that are not subject to the "privacy"

laws, do those exist?

 

3. FTIP, Dealer and 4473 records

 

How is it exposed? when is 

it exposed? who accesses it and when? 

 

[steveTA84]

On 4/3/2025 at 8:45 PM, crufflesmuth said:

I have a feeling ISRA does not want their forever war to end. 

Why would they when they were ok with it from the beginning 

[steveTA84]

On 4/1/2025 at 2:57 PM, steveTA84 said:

https://www.ammoland.com/2025/04/doj-investigation-into-california-gun-law-patterns-and-practices-should-be-expanded/
 

A new request for DOJ investigation has been filed by the same activist who filed the first complaint (left unnamed because he is intentionally known on social media only by a screen name to protect his privacy and employability) detailing Second Amendment and civil rights violations inherent in the state’s Firearms Owner Identification card (FOID) requirement. Among the findings in the complaint:
 

 

• The reason for the law was to dissuade minorities (specifically African Americans during a time of racial riots/unrest and distrust amongst racial groups and law enforcement) from seeking police permission to legally own firearms.
• Funding for FOID card and carry licenses is used now as a “piggy bank” by the IL General Assembly to fund other projects, leading to delays in processing (with a documented case of a 20-month wait).
• A woman with no criminal record was charged with a crime for possessing a single shot rifle in her home without a FOID.

If AG Bondi is serious that “under [her] watch, the Department will actively enforce the Second Amendment just like it actively enforces other fundamental constitutional rights,” the Civil Rights Division will dedicate the resources to investigate this complaint and also reconsider its disinterested dismissal of the complaint about the judge.

The FOID complaint follows.

 

https://www.scribd.com/document/845246700/DOJ-Investigation-into-California-Gun-Law-Patterns-and-Practices-Should-be-Expanded-FOID-Complaint

 

 

Got a reply a month later. This means the DOJ monkeys read my complaint and then sent it to an inappropriate agency (the ATF, who has zero jurisdiction over state gun ID’s) to close it out. Now I’m p_ssed and I’m not done lol.

 

 

 

 

 

[steveTA84]

https://www.ammoland.com/2025/05/doj-to-illinois-gun-owners-write-your-democrat-legislators-to-repeal-infringements/
 

[steveTA84]