Moms Demand Action resurrect "Duty to Retreat" in California - CA AB1333

[C0untZer0]

https://legiscan.com/CA/text/AB1333/2025

 

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(b) Homicide is not justifiable when committed by a person in all of the following cases:
(1) When the person was outside of their residence and knew that using force likely to cause death or great bodily injury could have been avoided with complete safety by retreating.
(2) When the person used more force than was reasonably necessary to defend against a danger.

 

https://momsdemandaction.org/press/fact-sheet-ab-1333-is-life-saving-legislation-aimed-at-preventing-those-who-shoot-first-and-ask-questions-later/#:~:text=AB 1333 seeks to make,of mind to California communities

[EdDinIL]

That bill looks like it would make it illegal to defend your property against rioters.  The rooftop Koreans would like a word.

[mikew]

Retreat from California.

[Smallbore]

On 3/3/2025 at 2:44 PM, EdDinIL said:

That bill looks like it would make it illegal to defend your property against rioters.  The rooftop Koreans would like a word.

The married lawyers in Missouri thought they could but found out they couldn't their act declare moral turpitude.

Violent criminals run the asylum. Sadly the people elect them.

[BobPistol]

On 3/3/2025 at 6:40 PM, Smallbore said:

Sadly the people elect them.

 

Objection, assumes facts not in evidence.

 

Totalitarians are never voted in  - they cheat their way in. 

[JTHunter]

On 3/3/2025 at 7:40 PM, Smallbore said:

The married lawyers in Missouri thought they could but found out they couldn't their act declare moral turpitude.

Violent criminals run the asylum. Sadly the people elect them.

On 3/3/2025 at 9:01 PM, BobPistol said:

Objection, assumes facts not in evidence.

Totalitarians are never voted in  - they cheat their way in.

 

Sadly, both are true.  That is part of their deceptions, as is "defunding" police.

Up until the 80s, Dems were for the "working blue collar" people but have since turned their backs on them and their concerns.  They have found a group that will be more "dependent" to them and their "assets".

[Smallbore]

On 3/3/2025 at 9:01 PM, BobPistol said:

 

Objection, assumes facts not in evidence.

 

Totalitarians are never voted in  - they cheat their way in. 

I believe Illinois voters  did vote for Pritzker. Sad but true.

[ragsbo]

On 3/5/2025 at 1:57 PM, Smallbore said:

I believe Illinois voters  did vote for Pritzker. Sad but true.

But was the majority of those votes from dead folks or live folks?

[Tip]

On 3/5/2025 at 1:57 PM, Smallbore said:

I believe Illinois voters  did vote for Pritzker. Sad but true.

Actually, a handful of counties voted for Pritzker- the rest of Illinois voted against him.

[BobPistol]

On 3/5/2025 at 12:57 PM, Smallbore said:

I believe Illinois voters  did vote for Pritzker. Sad but true.

 

Illegal aliens, dead people, and lots of counterfeit ballots - sure.

 

Remember, Totalitarians are not honest. 

[StuckInIllinois]

“Moms Demand Action”……talk about false advertising. 😁

[RECarry]

On 3/5/2025 at 9:20 PM, StuckInIllinois said:

“Moms Demand Action”……talk about false advertising. 😁

 

[Jeffrey]

On 3/6/2025 at 10:31 AM, RECarry said:

 

I remember a couple others with actual figures in them.  They were so good, they couldn't be posted on this site.

[Vodoun da Vinci]

So, a person would have to retreat and escape if possible before deploying deadly force? If I personally deploy my firearm, it will be because there is no other option to avoid death or serious injury but dummies' want US to have to prove it after the fact. More infringement. 

 

VooDoo

[John Q Public]

I would say 99% of us who carry would do the same V, in fact it is already written into the law as, "Immediate, otherwise unavoidable threat of great bodily harm or death."  The bottom line, get good CCL insurance and defend yourself and those you love from any threat; This is a basic human right, they can legislate all they want, but you have a first duty to those you love.

 

If they put want to put me in jail for defending my loved ones... do your worst. I will not fail those I love because of some political POS.

 

I will be judged by the father, Besides, I'm old and lived a full life, I will defend those who haven't had the chance, to live theirs... end of story. 

 

JQ

 

 

[JTHunter]

On 3/6/2025 at 1:17 PM, Vodoun da Vinci said:

So, a person would have to retreat and escape if possible before deploying deadly force? If I personally deploy my firearm, it will be because there is no other option to avoid death or serious injury but dummies' want US to have to prove it after the fact. More infringement. 

 

VooDoo

 

The windows in my bedroom are 42" above the floor with only the door as a feasible exit.  I'm 70, with a spine full of arthritis and peripheral neuropathy in my right hand.  Ain't no way in "H" that I can get out of that room except by that door.  God help anybody that gets in my way.