Jan 10 SCOTUS Conference calendar

[Felixd]

With minimum information I learned today that scotus will hold a conference hearing on three 2A cases involving mag capacity, semi autos, and injunctive relief when 2A rights have been violated tomorrow. The cases involve Maryland, Rhode Island, and Delaware. Does anyone have more information on these? I tried the scotus website, but I’m not able to determine much. 

[Tvandermyde]

 

[EdDinIL]

On 1/9/2025 at 12:08 PM, Felixd said:

With minimum information I learned today that scotus will hold a conference hearing on three 2A cases involving mag capacity, semi autos, and injunctive relief when 2A rights have been violated tomorrow. The cases involve Maryland, Rhode Island, and Delaware. Does anyone have more information on these? I tried the scotus website, but I’m not able to determine much. 

There have been discussions about the cases in the Judicial Second Amendment Case Discussion forum.   We're all waiting impatiently to find out what will happen with them.  The great hope is they will be granted cert.  More likely is they will be relisted because SCOTUS is looking at the details.  Least desired is that they either reschedule them or deny cert outright.  Todd's video gave some info on what we can expect, schedule-wise, for the next few days.

 

 

 

 

 

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Edited January 9, 2025 at 07:29 PM by EdDinIL

[Felixd]

Thank you everyone. 

[gunuser17]

There is no hearing at this point.  Conference simply means that the Justices will sit down together and discuss these cases.  They will then either vote on whether to grant cert.- in other words - allow the appeal to continue, decline to hear the appeal, or punt them to the next conference.  If at least 4 justices agree to accept the case, briefing will then be completed and oral arguments will be heard in the future - usually at least 3 months after cert being granted and sometimes up to a year later.  Timing may depend on whether the United States is asked to appear on the subject at issue - if so, the US is often slow in responding but hopefully, with the change in administration, that will not be the case here.  After cert. is granted and after the oral arguments at the Supreme Court are heard, the justices sit down together again and vote on who should win.  Of the justices voting on the winning side, the Chief justice then usually picks who will write the opinion if he is on the winning side of the case.  If not, then the senior justice on the winning side designates who will write the opinion.

[mauserme]

On 1/9/2025 at 3:16 PM, gunuser17 said:

There is no hearing at this point.  Conference simply means that the Justices will sit down together and discuss these cases.  They will then either vote on whether to grant cert.  ...

 

Correct, which makes conference a necessary step in the process of, hopefully, achieving our goals.  Without it, our path forward would be difficult.

 

 

On 1/9/2025 at 3:16 PM, gunuser17 said:

.... Timing may depend on whether the United States is asked to appear on the subject at issue - if so, the US is often slow in responding but hopefully, with the change in administration, that will not be the case here.  ...

 

These challenges are against state laws so the feds shouldn't be involved other than possibly filing amicus briefs.  The states, of course, can delay every bit as much as the feds might have under the current administration.

 

 

[Tvandermyde]

On 1/9/2025 at 5:50 PM, mauserme said:

 

Correct, which makes conference a necessary step in the process of, hopefully, achieving our goals.  Without it, our path forward would be difficult.

 

 

 

These challenges are against state laws so the feds shouldn't be involved other than possibly filing amicus briefs.  The states, of course, can delay every bit as much as the feds might have under the current administration.

 

 

 

 

Mauser -- this is one of the advantages of winning the whitehouse -- the Solicitor General could ask to intervene even as a state issue citing the importance. They could ask for divided time. I would be happy if they just submitted an amici on our side for once

[EdDinIL]

MSI v Moore - denied cert

Gray v Jennings - denied cert

Ocean State Tactical - no news yet, cert neither denied nor granted

Snope v Brown -  no news yet, cert neither denied nor granted

[Felixd]

Thank EdD. 

[EdDinIL]

Update:  Snope and Ocean State have been relisted for conference on 1/17/25.

 

There once was a plaintiff named Snope
With a law he had no cope
The case went to court
His team we cheer and exhort
And for a cert finding we hope
 

[2A4Cook]

I'm hopeful, but not very optimistic considering what Barrett and Sandra Day (oops) RINO Roberts pulled on the Trump case.

[EdDinIL]

On 1/13/2025 at 12:08 PM, 2A4Cook said:

I'm hopeful, but not very optimistic considering what Barrett and Sandra Day (oops) RINO Roberts pulled on the Trump case.

 

Besides not siding with President-elect Trump, what did Justices Barrett and Roberts pull?  I admit to being ignorant of the specifics of the ruling.

[Dumak_from_arfcom]

I still think the High Court wants to hear the IL case, and is going to wait for it.  I think they are going to hold them to the next term to hear with our case in '26. 

 

The guy at 4 Boxes doesn't sound very hopeful today.  

 

 

 

[ragsbo]

We we are still being screwed out of our Rights! Wait wait wait- all they know. Guess it is to much to actually make them do their jobs!

[JTHunter]

On 1/13/2025 at 3:04 PM, ragsbo said:

We we are still being screwed out of our Rights! Wait wait wait- all they know. Guess it is to much to actually make them do their jobs!

 

HEAR! HEAR!

[EdDinIL]

So, anybody placing bets on whether something comes out from today's conference?  I've got one eye on Twitter waiting for Mark Smith (Four Boxes) or Kostas Moros to drop something.

[Euler]

The regular order announcement day is still Monday. Smith and Moros would only report what the SC itself posts.

Meanwhile Smith has expressed the opinion that he thinks the SC is going to push these cases into next term. Alito and Thomas may retire, anyway, because they think Dobbs will be the legacy of their tenure. They don't need anything else.

[EdDinIL]

Miscellaneous order just dropped, nothing for Snope or Ocean State.  Guess we wait until Monday.

[soundguy]

On 1/24/2025 at 12:15 PM, EdDinIL said:

So, anybody placing bets on whether something comes out from today's conference?  I've got one eye on Twitter waiting for Mark Smith (Four Boxes) or Kostas Moros to drop something.

 

My apologies for going off topic.

It's California day at Four Boxes Diner.

Looks like good news?

 

 

Cheers,

Tim

[Upholder]

This morning's order list (1/27/2025) does not contain the cases we are interested in.  It appears likely that later today we will see them relisted for the conference next month.

[EdDinIL]

If they had issued a per curiam, would that have been in the orders list, or would they drop that bombshell later on?

[Upholder]

They can do anything they want, but my understanding is that if they were intending to do a per curiam today, it would have been included this morning.