Transporting firearm with FOID

[fxdpntc]

On 6/13/2025 at 10:55 AM, burningspear said:

I sometimes fear the police more than I fear the bad guy. Also, I understand the reasons many members of the community do not cooperate with the police...a lack of trust.

Same here. Local PD has already demonstrated they are anti 2A.

[fxdpntc]

On 6/12/2025 at 2:13 PM, Chicago97 said:

Case dismissed yall judge read the statute of one of three conditions unloaded and enclosed in a case I had a public defender who even quoted that one case in 2009 involved a center console which has only a latch and is right beside the drivers arm and that case was dropped. Basically told the officer everything I was saying when he arrested me. Been fighting this since October. I really thank god. After leaving the court I told the officer why couldn’t you just listen to me that night and let me go back home?

Watch out for Randy McCraney from the CPD. Black man hating his own kind arresting someone with no arrest record for an unloaded legally owned gun. Clown.
shout out my public defender

Congratulations. Your story is a good reminder that officer friendly might not be that friendly. 

[John Q Public]

This story is a warning for how bad it is in the state. Any ADA should know how fked this case was, but they don't care because of the pool they have to draw on. They think if there is a firearm, even if legal, they will win.

 

Much ado has been said, about not talking to LE. Your first mistake was telling them you had a firearm in the car. It is not required under FOID. He was fishing and you bit the hook... although you did nothing wrong, you gave him a reason, even in his own mind, to take action. 

 

I'm glad it worked out, but pensive it actually made it to trial.  

[Jeffrey]

On 6/15/2025 at 1:19 PM, John Q Public said:

This story is a warning for how bad it is in the state. Any ADA should know how fked this case was, but they don't care because of the pool they have to draw on. They think if there is a firearm, even if legal, they will win.

 

Much ado has been said, about not talking to LE. Your first mistake was telling them you had a firearm in the car. It is not required under FOID. He was fishing and you bit the hook... although you did nothing wrong, you gave him a reason, even in his own mind, to take action. 

 

I'm glad it worked out, but pensive it actually made it to trial.  

In every situation I've been in, one of the first pieces of info I'll share with them is that I'm carrying.  So far it has worked to my advantage in at least 3 or 4 situations.  No tickets issued.  Yes, there is always a rogue jag off.

[John Q Public]

I do the same when CC, but this was not that. Also, they get the flag for both when they run the plate, but I still tell them by handing the card over, I do not engage verbal.  In this case I don't think it would matter.... he one of those. 

[BobPistol]

Congrats on winning the case.

Did you get your gun back?

 

Did you talk to an attorney for suing the city for false arrest? 

[Chicago97]

Firearm was destroyed judge doesn’t put firearms back on the street. 
 

need to find a good lawyer.

[Euler]

The lawyer will cost more than a new firearm. You get to decide how much the principle is worth.

[Tvandermyde]

On 6/16/2025 at 3:09 PM, Chicago97 said:

Firearm was destroyed judge doesn’t put firearms back on the street. 
 

need to find a good lawyer.

did he say that on the record or is there something coorberating that? get me the case number

[soundguy]

On 6/16/2025 at 3:09 PM, Chicago97 said:

Firearm was destroyed judge doesn’t put firearms back on the street. 
 

need to find a good lawyer.

Respond to Todd. 
 

If they destroyed your firearm, it seems they need to reimburse you for the full cost of a replacement. I don’t think it’s up to a judge to destroy your legal property or deny reimbursement. 
 

Cheers,

Tim

[Euler]

A lot depends on the timing. If the firearm was in the possession of the cops for more than 30 days without a court order to retain it, they declare it "abandoned."

[Tvandermyde]

On 6/16/2025 at 7:52 PM, Euler said:

A lot depends on the timing. If the firearm was in the possession of the cops for more than 30 days without a court order to retain it, they declare it "abandoned."

If they do that its BS as they need it for evidence for a trial I cut up plenty of them held for years by PDs, scared to destroy them and if they do it without a bonafied cort order thats a problem or if they phony up it's abandon. 

 

Need the case number so we can get transcripts and see if the judge said that, then we'll see about some judicial complaints. . . 

[Tango7]

On 6/16/2025 at 3:53 PM, Euler said:

The lawyer will cost more than a new firearm. You get to decide how much the principle is worth.

 

Sadly, this is yet another example of (D)a Gummint using bully tactics and the bottomless pocket of the taxpayers to keep us in chains we pay for.

 

Two stories. The first I know about first hand. Years ago, the son of a co-worker (who was later hired by our agency) was pulled over for squealing his tires on Chicago's south side. He was honest when asked about firearms, and told them about the unloaded, cased shotgun in the bed of the pickup. He was charged with possession of an unregistered firearm, despite not being a resident of the PRC and the system having no way to allow non-residents to register.

 

The corporate counsel offered to drop the case if he surrendered the shotgun. His uncle, a corporate attorney, told him his hourly rate was more than the replacement cost of the shotgun, so he got un-charged, the gun went on the table at the next press conference while (D)a administration talked about "getting crime guns off the streets".

 

Second one relates to a police chief. He was known for requesting the destruction of firearms as the law allows if they were involved in the commission of a crime. I get that. 

 

But he would offer to the court that, regardless of their use after the theft, the theft of the firearm itself was a crime, so even if his officers busted the burglar with a sack of firearms he stole from your house in your front yard as he left your residence, this pompous goon would demand your guns be destroyed. 

 

Sadly, he's not the only LEO I know of who opposes little people having the same ability to address threats as they do.

 

And the International Association of Communist Policers seems to support this garbage as well, as evidenced by the "or by any other means" language in this document.

[Chicago97]

On 6/16/2025 at 11:15 PM, Tvandermyde said:

If they do that its BS as they need it for evidence for a trial I cut up plenty of them held for years by PDs, scared to destroy them and if they do it without a bonafied cort order thats a problem or if they phony up it's abandon. 

 

Need the case number so we can get transcripts and see if the judge said that, then we'll see about some judicial complaints. . . 

 

who is Todd? 
 

and I’ll provide a case number via private message. I did post this on Reddit and don’t want to get harassed by CPD if any of this takes off because some of them do know me by face in my neighborhood and I haven’t bought my city sticker yet. Easy $200 ticket. Lol.

 

But this judge has said this to me and if you review any other UUW he has seen and dismissed that was the result.

[THE KING]

Todd is the former NRA lobbyist that worked in the Illinois General Assembly.  

He's heavily involved with the litigation of the lawsuits in Illinois on the 2nd Amendment cases.  

Great guy to have on your side.  

[ealcala31]

On 6/17/2025 at 3:03 PM, Chicago97 said:

 

who is Todd? 
 

and I’ll provide a case number via private message. I did post this on Reddit and don’t want to get harassed by CPD if any of this takes off because some of them do know me by face in my neighborhood and I haven’t bought my city sticker yet. Easy $200 ticket. Lol.

 

But this judge has said this to me and if you review any other UUW he has seen and dismissed that was the result.

IL Carry is alot different than the IL Guns SubReddit. Much more professional in this forum. PM, text, or email Todd. He's legit.

[davel501]

On 6/17/2025 at 7:08 PM, ealcala31 said:

IL Carry is alot different than the IL Guns SubReddit. Much more professional in this forum. PM, text, or email Todd. He's legit.

 

One note: you can't pm him. He did post his AOL email address in a few threads though. 

[ealcala31]

On 6/17/2025 at 7:17 PM, davel501 said:

 

One note: you can't pm him. He did post his AOL email address in a few threads though. 

💯

[Tvandermyde]

On 6/17/2025 at 3:03 PM, Chicago97 said:

 

who is Todd? 
 

and I’ll provide a case number via private message. I did post this on Reddit and don’t want to get harassed by CPD if any of this takes off because some of them do know me by face in my neighborhood and I haven’t bought my city sticker yet. Easy $200 ticket. Lol.

 

But this judge has said this to me and if you review any other UUW he has seen and dismissed that was the result.

 

 

thats me. you can google me if you like or ask Sean Gowder, Dave Lawson, Valinda or a few others, and if you go over to Capfax, I'm the Todd they love to hate on the gun threads

[Chicago97]

On 6/17/2025 at 7:51 PM, Tvandermyde said:

 

 

thats me. you can google me if you like or ask Sean Gowder, Dave Lawson, Valinda or a few others, and if you go over to Capfax, I'm the Todd they love to hate on the gun threads

I sent you the case number to the email on your profile.

[Chicago97]

On 6/17/2025 at 9:21 PM, Chicago97 said:

I sent you the case number to the email on your profile.

Also feel free to correspond on here about anything except my full name but any other details are fine with me

[SiliconSorcerer]

On 6/18/2025 at 8:34 PM, Chicago97 said:

Also feel free to correspond on here about anything except my full name but any other details are fine with me

What's the total cost including a replacement firearm.  Don't need a lawyer for small claims but you need the time, I've passsed on that a few for that time part.  Bad arrest just should not end with money out of your pocket. 

When I retire I'm clearly going to make some people unhappy, I can be legally annoying.  

[Chicago97]

On 6/19/2025 at 5:51 AM, SiliconSorcerer said:

What's the total cost including a replacement firearm.  Don't need a lawyer for small claims but you need the time, I've passsed on that a few for that time part.  Bad arrest just should not end with money out of your pocket. 

When I retire I'm clearly going to make some people unhappy, I can be legally annoying.  

I bought it from Gatguns for about $600 total 

[SiliconSorcerer]

On 6/19/2025 at 7:02 AM, Chicago97 said:

I bought it from Gatguns for about $600 total 

No lawyer costs, lost work pay? 

[Chicago97]

On 6/19/2025 at 8:30 AM, SiliconSorcerer said:

No lawyer costs, lost work pay? 

I used a public defender.

been without my gun license since the incident happened October 2024

Open case prevented me from signing up to do grub hub?

Missed a day of work that I was scheduled the following day for after the night of my arrest

[burningspear]

You have posted enough about the incident. Stop publically discussing the case, including what you claim as damages. Retain a lawyer who is able and willing to file a civil case against Chicago.