Rep. Bost Votes Against Restoring Veteran's 2A Rights

[mauserme]

https://www.breitbart.com/2nd-amendment/2024/05/02/gop-reps-who-voted-against-rep-eli-cranes-amendment-to-restore-veterans-gun-rights/

 

Two GOP Lawmakers Vote Against Eli Crane’s Amendment to Restore Veterans’ Gun Rights

 

Reps. Michael Bost (R-IL) and Aumua Amata Coleman Radewagen (R-American Samoa) on Wednesday voted against Rep. Eli Crane’s (R-AZ) amendment to restore veterans’ gun rights.

 

Crane’s amendment dealt with the ongoing problem of bureaucrats in various parts of the government flagging military veterans to prevent them from purchasing and/or possessing firearms.

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Crane pushed an amendment to restore the rights of veterans who have been targeted by this and similar practices and Reps. Bost and Radewagen voted against it, siding with Democrats who wanted to see it delayed.

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[yurimodin]

RINO is gonna RINO......but remember he won his primary 50.1%-49.9%

 

 

[BobPistol]

Borg Drones will drone. 

[Tvandermyde]

the brietbart story is really lite on details

[JTHunter]

It appears that it is time for me to call Bost's local office - again.  😡

[MrTriple]

On 5/7/2024 at 2:12 PM, Tvandermyde said:

the brietbart story is really lite on details

I have to second Todd's sentiment. Very, very short on details, and frankly that paper has a habit of either reading into the details things that aren't there, or blowing things out of proportion.

 

I'm going to need far more details before I can pass a judgment call on this one, since that's the only honest thing any of us can do at this point. I get a little tired of the knee jerk reactions from the gun community about stuff like this, without a greater analysis of what's really going on behind the scenes. It makes us look stupid and conspiratorial.

[yurimodin]

On 5/7/2024 at 4:06 PM, MrTriple said:

I have to second Todd's sentiment. Very, very short on details, and frankly that paper has a habit of either reading into the details things that aren't there, or blowing things out of proportion.

 

I'm going to need far more details before I can pass a judgment call on this one, since that's the only honest thing any of us can do at this point. I get a little tired of the knee jerk reactions from the gun community about stuff like this, without a greater analysis of what's really going on behind the scenes. It makes us look stupid and conspiratorial.

Imagine going back to 2018 and telling someone about all that has happened since then and not have them bust up laughing uncontrollably in your face..........at this point I just default to whatever the "craziest" answer is since that seems to be what it turns out to be.

[Euler]

The issue is that the VA asks vets who come in for various treatments if they would like financial counseling. If the vets say they would, then the VA reports them to NICS as mentally defective (a statutory prohibitor) on the grounds that they are unable to manage their own financial affairs.

Even if the vets are actually incapable of managing their own financial affairs, "mentally defective" is a term that generally means that someone has NEVER been mentally capable, typically the kind of incapacity that would have disqualified them from enlistment in the first place.

Similarly if a vet sought psychological counseling, the VA would use that as evidence of mental incapacity directly for reporting to NICS.

The idea behind a few proposed bills is that only a judge can adjudicate a person as mentally incompetent, not some arbitrary VA bureaucrat.

My understanding is that Bost has his own such bill. Maybe he voted against this one because he wants his bill to be the only one that passes, but I can only speculate.

Edited May 7, 2024 at 11:24 PM by Euler

[MrTriple]

On 5/7/2024 at 6:23 PM, Euler said:

The issue is that the VA asks vets who come in for various treatments if they would like financial counseling. If the vets say they would, then the VA reports them to NICS as mentally defective (a statutory prohibitor) on the grounds that they are unable to manage their own financial affairs.

Even if the vets are actually incapable of managing their own financial affairs, "mentally defective" is a term that generally means that someone has NEVER been mentally capable, typically the kind of incapacity that would have disqualified them from enlistment in the first place.

Similarly if a vet sought psychological counseling, the VA would use that as evidence of mental incapacity directly for reporting to NICS.

The idea behind a few proposed bills is that only a judge can adjudicate a person as mentally incompetent, not some arbitrary VA bureaucrat.

My understanding is that Bost has his own such bill. Maybe he voted against this one because he wants his bill to be the only one that passes, but I can only speculate.
 

There's also the possibility that the language of the bill was problematic. Unless we read through the whole thing, how do we know?

[mauserme]

On 5/7/2024 at 4:06 PM, MrTriple said:

I have to second Todd's sentiment. Very, very short on details, and frankly that paper has a habit of either reading into the details things that aren't there, or blowing things out of proportion.

 

I'm going to need far more details before I can pass a judgment call on this one, since that's the only honest thing any of us can do at this point. I get a little tired of the knee jerk reactions from the gun community about stuff like this, without a greater analysis of what's really going on behind the scenes. It makes us look stupid and conspiratorial.

 

After Congressman Bost supported the bump stock ban (see discussion here), he's going to have to get used to the 2A community questioning his motives.  I didn't see anything in the article that seemed conspiratorial and, rather than being stupid, I think it serves a very useful purpose to let guys like  him know that not only are we paying attention, but that there are no free passes anymore.

 

 

 

On 5/7/2024 at 6:23 PM, Euler said:

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My understanding is that Bost has his own such bill. Maybe he voted against this one because he wants his bill to be the only one that passes, but I can only speculate.
 

 

That's my belief, combined with it being an election year.

 

 

[yurimodin]

On 5/7/2024 at 6:23 PM, Euler said:

If the vets say they would, then the VA reports them to NICS as mentally defective (a statutory prohibitor) on the grounds that they are unable to manage their own financial affairs.

Might as well just call them "feeble minded" like they did during the Eugenics forced sterilization crusade........ however much you may hate these govt scum it's not nearly enough.