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mikew Member

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Because Glock Switches.

https://www.google.com/search?q=chicago+sues+glock&tbs=qdr:d

 

Some:

1 hour ago — As Chicago gun violence persists, the city has filed a lawsuit against Glock, accusing the company of facilitating the proliferation of machine guns.

CIty of Chicago sues gunmaker Glock

2 hours ago — The city of Chicago has sued Glock, one of the largest firearms manufacturers in the world, accusing the gunmaker of willfully ignoring design flaws in its ...
 
2 hours ago — The city of Chicago filed a lawsuit against Glock, blaming the popular gun manufacturer for a rapid increase in illegal machine guns on the streets.
28 minutes ago — The lawsuit says Glock as a company endangers Chicagoans by selling semi-automatic pistols that can be easily converted to illegal machine guns with a cheap ...

Chicago Sues Glock, Vowing to Hold Gun Manufacturer ...

51 minutes ago — Glock should be banned from selling those guns to Chicagoans and forced to pay for the harm the pistols have caused, according to a new lawsuit filed by the ...
7 minutes ago — The city of Chicago is suing firearms manufacturer Glock, accusing the company that makes one of the most popular handguns in America of “willfully” ...
Euler Member

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Gary, IN, did a similar thing back in November 2012 in IN state court. The case is still ongoing. Gary's lawsuit asks that the court "award monetary damages sufficient to compensate Gary for ... wrongful design ... of handguns, ... grant injunctive relief requiring [Glock] to cease ... manufacturing ... handguns ..." etc., etc.

It's good that Chicago has so much extra money to spend filing frivolous lawsuits. It means that it finally has enough for all its other needs, just like Gary.
Quiet Observer Member

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On 3/19/2024 at 3:49 PM, Euler said:

Gary, IN, did a similar thing back in November 2012 in IN state court. The case is still ongoing. Gary's lawsuit asks that the court "award monetary damages sufficient to compensate Gary for ... wrongful design ... of handguns, ... grant injunctive relief requiring [Glock] to cease ... manufacturing ... handguns ..." etc., etc.

It's good that Chicago has so much extra money to spend filing frivolous lawsuits. It means that it finally has enough for all its other needs, just like Gary.

Not any more for Gary. 

Holcomb signs bill killing Gary's gunmaker lawsuit, but two others hang in the balance • Indiana Capital Chronicle

mab22 Member

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Of course none of them suing China for allowing the exporting and manufacturing. How many of these parts are being trafficked through our southern border, why not sue the cartels or Mexico as well?
 

Yas Member

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I've been mulling over this for some time, but haven't wanted to post it in the open to give them any legislative ideas.  Is there any other handgun that has a basic design that's allowed the invention to manufacturer a similar widget that would do the same for other pistols?

 

Ive wondered why Glock hasn't invented an next generation yet that disables the abilities of dropping in a switch on them. 

 

Haven't heard about HK switches, Ruger switches ETC. 

 

Yes I  know of lightening link / DIAS for other things 

Euler Member

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The Glock design was revolutionary in the 1970s and 1980s. Compare an exploded parts diagram of a Glock to any other pistol of the era. It's got drastically fewer parts.

In the meantime, the Glock 18 is a Glock 17 with a built-in switch. It's hard to imagine that Glock didn't know the design was convertible.
MrTriple Member

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Standard, run of the mill grandstanding. If you fail to get results because you're not doing your job, just file a lawsuit to make it seem like you're actually doing something.

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On 3/19/2024 at 7:46 PM, MrTriple said:

Standard, run of the mill grandstanding. If you fail to get results because you're not doing your job, just file a lawsuit to make it seem like you're actually doing something.

 

"Deception and evasion."  Like "3-Card Monty", it's what the dims are so good at doing.

SiliconSorcerer Member

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On 3/19/2024 at 7:39 PM, Euler said:

The Glock design was revolutionary in the 1970s and 1980s. Compare an exploded parts diagram of a Glock to any other pistol of the era. It's got drastically fewer parts.

In the meantime, the Glock 18 is a Glock 17 with a built-in switch. It's hard to imagine that Glock didn't know the design was convertible.

Um, kind of like some other unmentionable firearm they have a h.... on about but made by a gazillion manufactures, however rarely used in Chicago in comparison..

davel501 Member

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If I was running Glock I would immediately cease government sales until I had an agreement in place to block lawsuits like this, force arbitration and require repayment of all costs of any actions brought by the government unit or any of their subdivisions. I'd collaborate with the other companies like Colt, S&W, Sig, etc. to make this universal across the board.

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On 3/20/2024 at 9:10 AM, davel501 said:

If I was running Glock I would immediately cease government sales until I had an agreement in place to block lawsuits like this, force arbitration and require repayment of all costs of any actions brought by the government unit or any of their subdivisions. I'd collaborate with the other companies like Colt, S&W, Sig, etc. to make this universal across the board.

That's a GREAT IDEA. Will never work. S&W, Sig Sauer, and Ruger will capitalize on the opportunity if Glock abandoned one of the biggest police forces in the United States. For those who have a little bit of insight, the academy pushes Sigs hard.

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On 3/20/2024 at 7:11 PM, ealcala31 said:

That's a GREAT IDEA. Will never work. S&W, Sig Sauer, and Ruger will capitalize on the opportunity if Glock abandoned one of the biggest police forces in the United States. For those who have a little bit of insight, the academy pushes Sigs hard.

 

If those other companies are smart, they'll know they're next. 

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On 3/20/2024 at 8:09 PM, davel501 said:

 

If those other companies are smart, they'll know they're next. 

Agreed.

solareclipse2 Member

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On 3/25/2024 at 3:23 PM, steveTA84 said:

Wow, quickest “F off” I’ve ever received lol

 

 

Does that "Burdensome" status actually mean they're not going to comply with your request? Are they actually allowed to just do that? I mean obviously without a means to compel them to comply they can do whatever they want but like by law, can they just go "no, this makes us look bad we don't wanna do it?"

 

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On 3/26/2024 at 8:18 AM, solareclipse2 said:

I mean obviously without a means to compel them to comply they can do whatever they want but like by law, can they just go "no, this makes us look bad we don't wanna do it?"

 

 

This is the biggest problem with FOI laws, there are no consequences for them to flat-out deny the request or turn over black sheets...  What needs to be done is the FOI laws need to include a substantial punitive punishment for any government agency that is found to have withheld any documents or information that they shouldn't have...  Lets say something like after court action if a government agency was found to have wrongfully withheld documents they are fined $250/page plus attorney cost to the plaintiff for every page they withheld...  As it stands right now they basically suffer nothing if they refuse and they know it...

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On 3/26/2024 at 11:10 PM, TomKoz said:

I often think what our Founding Father’s would be doing by now.

 

I often think that anyone who says that is more than welcome to be the first to try it.

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Euler Member

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Chicago originally filed the case in Cook County Circuit Court on March 19.

On April 17, Glock had the case removed to the Federal District Court of Northern Illinois. (docket)

On April 18, the judge ordered the parties to file a joint status report by July 2.

On April 23, Glock asked for an extension to respond to the complaint. Originally the deadline to respond to the complaint was April 24. The motion for an extension included a proposed briefing schedule to which Chicago had already agreed.

On April 26, the judge granted the extension and set the following schedule, as proposed in the motion:

June 10: Glock's response brief due, which will be a motion to dismiss
July 25: Chicago's response to Glock's motion due
August 26: Glock's reply to Chicago's response due

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