Euler Posted December 23, 2023 at 06:41 AM Posted December 23, 2023 at 06:41 AM In the Federal District Court of Northern Illinois, Prince's indictment for "felon-in-possession" (of a firearm) was dismissed on November 2, 2023. Strap in. Opinion said:... According to the government, on September 3, 2021, defendant allegedly approached three individuals on a Brown Line Chicago Transit Authority ("CTA") train, brandished a firearm, and robbed them at gunpoint. Among the items allegedly stolen was a cell phone and Ventra card. ... On September 12, 2021, at approximately 11:28 p.m., defendant allegedly swiped the Ventra card at the Red Line CTA station, and proceeded to smoke a cigarette on the platform, which is against a Chicago Transit Board ordinance. Chicago police officers arrested defendant just after midnight, in the early morning of September 13, 2021, and recovered a firearm from his person. Defendant is charged with unlawful possession of a firearm in violation of 18 U.S.C. §§ 922(g)(1) and 924(e). ... Defendant has a criminal record that includes prior felony convictions, and a federal grand jury returned an indictment against defendant on April 25, 2022, with one count of unlawful possession of a firearm. The grand jury returned a superseding indictment on June 27, 2023, which added that prior to defendant's alleged prohibited possession of a firearm, defendant had at least three previous convictions for offenses committed on occasions different from one another. On August 18, 2023, less than four weeks before trial was set to begin, defendant filed the instant motion to dismiss the indictment based on an alleged violation of his rights under the Second Amendment of the United States Constitution. He raises the issue based on the Supreme Court's ruling in New York Rifle & Pistol Assn. v. Bruen ... and the Seventh Circuit's ruling in Atkinson v. Garland .... Consequently, on August 22, 2023, the court granted defendant's motion to continue the trial, and ordered that the jury trial set for September 11, 2023, be stricken and reset to begin on November 28, 2023. ... The Seventh Circuit instructed the government to develop a record that addresses a series of "interrelated and non-exhaustive questions" which are intended to "help focus the proper analysis on remand." ... These questions are:Does § 922(g)(1) address a 'general societal problem that has persisted since the 18th century?' ...What does history tell us about disarming those convicted of crimes generally and of felonies in particular? ...Are there broader historical analogues to § 922(g)(1) during the periods that Bruen emphasized, including, but not limited to, laws disarming 'dangerous' groups other than felons? ...If the district court's historical inquiry identifies analogous laws, do those laws supply enough of a historical tradition (as opposed to isolated instances of regulation) to support § 922(g)(1)? ...If history supports Atkinson's call for individualized assessments or for a distinction between violent and non-violent felonies, how do we define a non-violent or a non-dangerous felony?... Further, the government argues, when an individual commits a felony, that individual experiences the "forfeiture of a number of rights" that are tied to membership in the political community, including the right to serve on a jury, vote, and hold elected office. ... Defendant counters that Heller's emphasis on "law abiding citizens" was dicta, and interpreting "the people" to exclude felons is inconsistent with how courts have interpreted "the people" in other constitutional text. ... The court agrees with defendant that Heller and Bruen did not hold that the Second Amendment categorically protects only law-abiding citizens, despite their repeated use of such qualified language as "law abiding citizens." ... In light of Meza-Rodriguez, and the parties' briefing pursuant to Bruen and Atkinson, this court concludes that the government has not met its burden to prove that felons are excluded from "the people" whose firearm possession is presumptively protected by the plain text of the Second Amendment. ... ... In the instant case, the government argues that § 922(g)(1) "is part of the historical tradition that delimits the outer bounds of the right to keep and bear arms." ... The government does not argue about whether earlier generations addressed the general societal problem of firearm-related violence with similar or materially different means. Nor could it. ... ... This court is persuaded that the text, history, and tradition of firearm-dispossession statutes demonstrates that the legislature has the authority to categorically regulate firearm possession by individuals who have demonstrated that they cannot be trusted to obey the law, or pose some other danger to the political community if armed. The record shows that these categorical regulations are not isolated instances, and the Seventh Circuit has already determined that "Congress enacted the [categorical] exclusions in § 922(g) to keep guns out of the hands of presumptively risky people." ... The record shows that the legislature has a longstanding tradition of justifying exclusion from the right to keep and bear arms based on its assessment of that group's risk to the rule of law, whether based on mental health, criminal record, loyalty, or character. Further, this court rejects the notion that history calls for an individualized assessment of risk, or a distinction between violent and nonviolent felonies. ... The inquiry required by Bruen, however, is not merely whether a dispossession statute's burden is "comparably justified," but also whether the statute imposes a "comparable burden" on the right itself. ... Specifically, this court is not persuaded that the government has met its burden to show a "distinctly similar," or even a "relevantly similar," historical analogue to § 922(g)(1)'s permanent prohibition on firearm possession by felons, which can be lifted only by expungement, federal pardon, or other method of restoring civil rights that lifts the underlying offense from a "conviction" under § 922(g). ... ... Thus, this court concludes that § 922(g)(1) imposes a far greater burden on the right to keep and bear arms than the historical categorical exclusions from the people’s Second Amendment right. The government has not demonstrate d why the modern ubiquity of gun violence, and the heightened lethality of today’s firearm technology compared to the Founding, justify a different result. ... This court's holding also does not change the fact that all individuals, including felons, are prohibited from using firearms to commit crimes and threaten violence ... ... However, this court is unable to uphold § 922(g)(1) as constitutional due to Bruen's instruction that the government must provide evidence of a historical analogue that is both comparably justified and comparably burdensome of the right to keep and bear arms. Although there are strong policy reasons for doing everything possible to keep guns off our streets and out of our communities -- policies that could be addressed by legislation rather than judicial edict -- this court can find no such historical analog. ... ... Points of note (IMO):The government uses the argument that people aren't people from the moment they commit a felony (not the moment they're convicted). The judge doesn't buy it.The judge buys that broad categories of people can be disarmed.The judge does not buy that felonies need to be broken into violent and nonviolent classes.The judge points out that committing crime with a firearm is just as illegal for someone with no prior record as it is for someone with a criminal record.The judge rules that categorical disarmament of people with felony records is not supported by the text, history, and tradition of American law.This is the same judge that ruled in US v Freeman.
Euler Posted December 23, 2023 at 06:48 AM Author Posted December 23, 2023 at 06:48 AM On November 8, the DOJ filed notice to appeal. On November 9, the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals assigned docket number 23-3155. On December 11, the DOJ asked for an extension to file its appellant brief. The court granted the extension to March 25.
Upholder Posted December 23, 2023 at 02:08 PM Posted December 23, 2023 at 02:08 PM On 12/23/2023 at 12:41 AM, Euler said: The government has not demonstrate d why the modern ubiquity of gun violence, and the heightened lethality of today’s firearm technology compared to the Founding, justify a different result. ... This right here was an attempt to interest balance, and had it succeeded would have been grounds for appeal.
ragsbo Posted December 23, 2023 at 08:25 PM Posted December 23, 2023 at 08:25 PM On 12/23/2023 at 12:48 AM, Euler said: On November 8, the DOJ filed notice to appeal. On November 9, the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals assigned docket number 23-3155. On December 11, the DOJ asked for an extension to file its appellant brief. The court granted the extension to March 25. extension after extension after extension, That is how the government delays ruling on their unconstitutional acts/laws. With their deep pockets (ie our taxes) and personnel, there is no reason for all these extensions. It is their game plan to keep it tied up in redtape so they can deny folks their rights.
Tvandermyde Posted December 23, 2023 at 09:20 PM Posted December 23, 2023 at 09:20 PM On 12/22/2023 at 10:41 PM, Euler said: In the Federal District Court of Northern Illinois, Prince's indictment for "felon-in-possession" (of a firearm) was dismissed on November 2, 2023. Strap in. Points of note (IMO): The government uses the argument that people aren't people from the moment they commit a felony (not the moment they're convicted). The judge doesn't buy it. The judge buys that broad categories of people can be disarmed. The judge does not buy that felonies need to be broken into violent and nonviolent classes. The judge points out that committing crime with a firearm is just as illegal for someone with no prior record as it is for someone with a criminal record. The judge rules that categorical disarmament of people with felony records is not supported by the text, history, and tradition of American law. This is the same judge that ruled in US v Freeman. 1 The same district court applied the same reasoning to reach the same conclusion in six other matters, in which the government has filed notices of appeal. See United States v. Kevin Delaney, No. 23-3156; United States v. Malik Daniel, No. 23-3173; United States v. Devon Freeman, No. 23-3186; United States v. Christopher SalmeNegrete, No. 23-3212; United States v. Johnny Anderson, No. 23-3217; and United States v. Jose Diaz, No. 23-3259. In each of these matters, the government will soon file unopposed motions to stay the appeal pending a decision by this Court in Prince.
Euler Posted March 1, 2024 at 09:56 PM Author Posted March 1, 2024 at 09:56 PM On February 26, CA7 set the following schedule: 03/12/2024: US appeal brief due 04/11/2024: Prince's response brief due 05/02/2024: US reply brief due
Euler Posted March 22, 2024 at 03:51 AM Author Posted March 22, 2024 at 03:51 AM The government met the appeal brief deadline. Several states are filing amici briefs. On March 19, one of those state briefs is Illinois in a brief for Illinois, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, District of Columbia, Hawaii, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Washington, and Wisconsin. For some reason, it is sealed. The court says it may unseal it after review. FWIW, that brief is the reason supposedly IL could not file a timely response to all the IL-based petitions at the US Supreme Court.
Euler Posted April 6, 2024 at 02:20 AM Author Posted April 6, 2024 at 02:20 AM On April 4, defendant Prince asked for an extension to file a response brief. On April 5, the court granted the extension. The schedule is now: 5/13: defendant's response is due 6/03: government's reply is due
Euler Posted May 18, 2024 at 04:46 AM Author Posted May 18, 2024 at 04:46 AM On May 6, defendant Prince asked for an extension to file a response brief. On May 8, the court granted the extension. The schedule is now: 6/12: defendant's response is due 7/03: government's reply is due
Euler Posted July 27, 2024 at 01:26 AM Author Posted July 27, 2024 at 01:26 AM On July 26, Prince filed a motion to have the case heard en banc (i.e., to skip the panel hearing).
Euler Posted August 5, 2024 at 05:07 AM Author Posted August 5, 2024 at 05:07 AM On August 1, the court ordered the US to file a response to the motion for en banc hearing by August 15.
Euler Posted August 10, 2024 at 04:14 AM Author Posted August 10, 2024 at 04:14 AM On August 8, the government filed a motion to extend the time to file a response. On August 9, the court granted the motion. The government response is now due August 30.
Euler Posted August 31, 2024 at 03:58 AM Author Posted August 31, 2024 at 03:58 AM On August 21, the government again filed motions to extend the time to file (1) a reply to Prince's response to the appeal and (2) a response to Prince's motion for an en banc hearing. The court granted an extension to September 16 for the response to the en banc hearing motion. On August 22, the court granted an extension to September 16 for the reply to the response to the appeal.
TomKoz Posted August 31, 2024 at 05:10 AM Posted August 31, 2024 at 05:10 AM Purple On/. On August 30, the government filed a motion to extend the time to file until September 30, 2032 … or until 5 days after the Prince dies - whichever comes sooner. Purple Off.
Euler Posted September 18, 2024 at 08:18 AM Author Posted September 18, 2024 at 08:18 AM On September 16, the government filed its reply brief to the appeal and its response brief to the motion for en banc hearing.
Euler Posted November 11, 2024 at 01:45 AM Author Posted November 11, 2024 at 01:45 AM On October 10, the court denied the petition to hear the case en banc. On October 25, the court scheduled oral arguments (panel) for December 11.
Euler Posted December 26, 2024 at 03:27 PM Author Posted December 26, 2024 at 03:27 PM On December 11, oral arguments were held.
JTHunter Posted December 29, 2024 at 04:29 AM Posted December 29, 2024 at 04:29 AM (edited) Damn Euler?!? For the day after Christmas, you've been busier than a long-tailed cat in a roomful of rocking chairs !! Edited December 29, 2024 at 04:30 AM by JTHunter
Euler Posted December 4, 2025 at 05:40 AM Author Posted December 4, 2025 at 05:40 AM On December 26, 2024 at 09:27 AM CST, Euler said:→On December 11, oral arguments were held. Next Thursday will be December 11, 2025. The 7th Circuit still has not issued a ruling. US v Cherry, also in the 7th Circuit, has been stayed, awaiting a ruling in this case, for over a year.
Euler Posted April 3, 2026 at 01:55 AM Author Posted April 3, 2026 at 01:55 AM On April 2, CA7 reversed the dismissal of the criminal complaint and remanded the case back to the district.
Euler Posted April 3, 2026 at 02:34 AM Author Posted April 3, 2026 at 02:34 AM Easterbook wrote the CA7 panel opinion. It was unanimous. CA7 Opinion said:... ... a district court dismissed the indictment after concluding that §922(g)(1) is invalid "on its face" -- that is, in every possible application -- under the Second Amendment of the Constitution. ... ... None of the Supreme Court's decisions expressly addresses the validity of §922(g)(1), and it is chancy for an inferior court to take dicta (such as the statements in Heller) as the equivalent of holdings. Bruen changed Heller's approach to be more historical, and Rahimi recast Bruen to be more risk-centric (after observing that American history evinces this emphasis on danger). Given the current state of the law, represented by Rahimi, it is difficult to conclude that §922(g)(1) cannot be applied to anyone, even a person with a string of convictions suggesting grave danger. ... ... Prince has prior convictions for armed robbery and aggravated battery. ... ...
Tvandermyde Posted April 3, 2026 at 08:06 AM Posted April 3, 2026 at 08:06 AM do you have the link to the appellate docket & decision?
Euler Posted April 3, 2026 at 07:40 PM Author Posted April 3, 2026 at 07:40 PM I always post links. On December 23, 2023 at 12:48 AM CST, Euler said:→... On November 9, the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals assigned docket number 23-3155. ... CourtListener doesn't always include a free copy of opinions like it does the complaints, but Justia does.
Euler Posted August 30, 2026 at 04:40 AM Author Posted August 30, 2026 at 04:40 AM On May 8 in district court, the court ordered parties to file a joint status report by June 5. On June 5, the parties filed a joint status report. On June 8, based on the June 5 report, the judge set the following schedule: 9/01: updated joint status report due 9/10: hearing
Euler Posted October 2, 2026 at 05:31 AM Author Posted October 2, 2026 at 05:31 AM I just noticed ... On July 31, Prince petitioned the US Supreme Court for certiorari. (docket) On August 13, the US waived its right to respond. The CA7 opinion referred to Rahimi. Despite Easterbrook writing it, the opinion is correct that Prince is a violent felon. His arrest in this case related to firearm he allegedly used in an armed robbery he committed on a CTA platform. (The arrest was prompted by smoking on another CTA platform. If they didn't smoke on CTA platforms, I wonder if felons would ever get arrested in Chicago.)
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