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Biden Admin Announces New Gun Control Push That Includes 2 Executive Actions and a Pressure Campaign Against States (msn.com)

 

I guess the good news from this is that VP Harris is in charge? Some elements:

 

A fact sheet outlined the steps the Biden administration wants states to take, topped by establishing offices dedicated to gun violence prevention -- like the one instituted at the White House in September.

 

AND

 

The "Safe States Agenda" itself, an eight-page document, tells states what they should be doing and notes existing funding streams that they can use.

“In the months ahead, the White House Office of Gun Violence Prevention will work with states to make sure they have the resources needed to advance this life-saving agenda,” the White House document says.

The White House wants states to “build and strengthen Crime Gun Intelligence Centers ... to help generate leads, connect guns with multiple crime scenes, and identify gun trafficking channels.”

States that have American Rescue Plan funding lying around should use it to fund "community violence intervention" programs, the document says.

The document also addresses responsible gun ownership, background checks, and how states can respond to instances of gun violence, and closes with a strident section titled “Hold the Gun Industry Accountable.”

 

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The section calls for states to impose Biden administration-supported gun control policies on their residents.

“In addition to banning "assault weapons" and high-capacity magazines, states should ban the possession of unserialized firearms, often referred to as ‘ghost guns,’” the document says.

The section also calls on states to impose more red tape on gun dealers and beef up their inspections of them.

Additionally, the agenda calls for state legislation to end the federal Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act that protects gun manufacturers from liability.

Vodoun da Vinci Member

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On 12/14/2023 at 9:14 AM, mab22 said:

I will guess that the Peoples Republik of Illinois has been laying the ground work on this. 
Yes I spelled Republic with a K, the Democrats prefer it that way.
 

 

I think Pritzker has designs on the White House (why not? He's richer and that makes him better...) and all this BS is to impress the Liberal's who want Amerika and the US disarmed and get their votes. Whether it passes muster and sticks or not seems to be of little concern to him. Whether or not it has an impact on "Gun Crime" and makes people safer or even if it hamstrings the Constitution and destroys US and deprives millions of Rights he doesn't care.

 

He wants the money - he wants the Power. At any cost. Actually getting results is obviously not his agenda. Serving We The People and protecting/defending the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic is not his agenda. He wants power. control, and money and he'll get it from Liberals who think he gonna disarm the US. He wants to be president of Amerika.

 

VooDoo

Vodoun da Vinci Member

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Actually I stand corrected on the Oath part:

 

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“I do solemnly swear (affirm) that I will support the Constitution of the United States, and the Constitution of the State of Illinois, and that I will faithfully discharge the duties of the office of …. to the best of my ability.” (Source: Illinois Constitution.)

 

The Governor if Illinois does not swear to defend the Constitutions of the US and Illinois against all enemies foreign and domestic. He merely swears to support them.

 

My Bad.

 

VooDoo

I_moved_to_Missouri Welcome New Member

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If this Biden administration really wanted to save lives, they could call for a seatbelt interlock device/software to be installed on cars and trucks.

 

The cars won’t start unless your seatbelt is already fastened.

 

Google says 38,000 people die each year in auto accidents.

 

 

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On 12/14/2023 at 10:29 PM, I_moved_to_Missouri said:

If this Biden administration really wanted to save lives, they could call for a seatbelt interlock device/software to be installed on cars and trucks.

 

The cars won’t start unless your seatbelt is already fastened.

 

Google says 38,000 people die each year in auto accidents.

 

Ironically more seatbelted people die each year than not seatbelted...  Beyond that the interlock would have to have a disable function (like airbags) for every seat except the driver's seat so  latch mounted car seats could be used as they trigger the occupied weight sensors in that seat...  And that brings up the other problem, people who don't want to wear seatbelts will jump or snip the wires, simply latch the seatbelt behind them, or use one of the interlock disable devices already available...

 

Either way they don't care about lives they care about subjugating the population...

 

You want to blow the "sensible gun control" zealots' minds, tell them that instead of outlawing guns, how about instead making mandatory minimum sentencing with no early release, no parole and no option to plea for violent crimes committed with a firearm thus sensibly punishing the criminal and not the innocent...  Then sit back and watch how little they care about punishing the actual guilty criminals and how honest they become about revealing their true motives...

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On 12/14/2023 at 10:29 PM, I_moved_to_Missouri said:

If this Biden administration really wanted to save lives, they could call for a seat belt interlock device/software to be installed on cars and trucks.

 

The cars won’t start unless your seat belt is already fastened.

 

 

That came on our brand new 1974 Toyota Corolla. Never again. Had to defeat it after the car wouldn't start, stranding us in the Bear Tooth Pass, Montana. No cell phones, no OnStar. I was lucky it was mechanical.

 

No Seat Belt Interlock Device ever again.

Don't even joke about it.

 

Cheers,

Tim

I_moved_to_Missouri Welcome New Member

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On 12/15/2023 at 1:06 AM, Flynn said:

 

Ironically more seatbelted people die each year than not seatbelted...  Beyond that the interlock would have to have a disable function (like airbags) for every seat except the driver's seat so  latch mounted car seats could be used as they trigger the occupied weight sensors in that seat...  And that brings up the other problem, people who don't want to wear seatbelts will jump or snip the wires, simply latch the seatbelt behind them, or use one of the interlock disable devices already available...

 

Either way they don't care about lives they care about subjugating the population...

 

You want to blow the "sensible gun control" zealots' minds, tell them that instead of outlawing guns, how about instead making mandatory minimum sentencing with no early release, no parole and no option to plea for violent crimes committed with a firearm thus sensibly punishing the criminal and not the innocent...  Then sit back and watch how little they care about punishing the actual guilty criminals and how honest they become about revealing their true motives...

Oh…yeah…I know there is always going to be somebody who thinks they can outsmart the car’s safety “systems”.

 

My idea for the folks who will just fasten the seatbelt first, then hop in, and sit on the seatbelt would be for the reel or seatbelt tensioner to like measure that the seatbelt is actually going around somebody.

 

And now that just about every car has something like an iPad or a tablet smack dab in the middle of the screen, the car can ask the driver to input the seatbelt configurations for all 4 or more seats.  Then when that gets inputted into the screen, and the seatbelts show they have been stretched over some body and fastened, then the logic allows you to start the car.

 

On the back end, after an accident, the insurance companies could be given a legal out:  you weren’t wearing your seatbelt, so we aren’t paying your hospital bills.

 

Maybe they already do that???

 

But you are correct with the rest of your comments.  
 

It really is about subjugating the people.

I_moved_to_Missouri Welcome New Member

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On 12/15/2023 at 5:58 AM, soundguy said:

 

That came on our brand new 1974 Toyota Corolla. Never again. Had to defeat it after the car wouldn't start, stranding us in the Bear Tooth Pass, Montana. No cell phones, no OnStar. I was lucky it was mechanical.

 

No Seat Belt Interlock Device ever again.

Don't even joke about it.

 

Cheers,

Tim


I wouldn’t want a seatbelt interlock either.

 

Just like I don’t want that new anti-drinking technology:

 

Some technologies in development include breath and touch sensors to detect whether someone drank alcohol, as well as cameras that can monitor a person's eye movements to tell if they're inhibited, Reuters reported.

ragsbo Member

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these systems will also allow those powers that wanna be to shut the car down when they want it. Way to much power and control in the wrong hands. It is amazing how stupid they will go to FORCE folks to do their bidding. They can't help it

Black Flag Member

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On 12/15/2023 at 5:58 AM, soundguy said:

 

That came on our brand new 1974 Toyota Corolla. Never again. Had to defeat it after the car wouldn't start, stranding us in the Bear Tooth Pass, Montana. No cell phones, no OnStar. I was lucky it was mechanical.

 

No Seat Belt Interlock Device ever again.

Don't even joke about it.

 

Cheers,

Tim

I'm shocked, I tell you.

 

 



 

 

yurimodin Member

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On 12/15/2023 at 5:58 AM, soundguy said:

 

That came on our brand new 1974 Toyota Corolla. Never again. Had to defeat it after the car wouldn't start, stranding us in the Bear Tooth Pass, Montana. No cell phones, no OnStar. I was lucky it was mechanical.

 

No Seat Belt Interlock Device ever again.

Don't even joke about it.

 

Cheers,

Tim

Dad had a 74 Mercury that the previous owner disabled that function.......they would put their groceries in the back seat (and not buckle them up) and then the car wouldn't start.

I_moved_to_Missouri Welcome New Member

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On 12/15/2023 at 8:01 AM, ragsbo said:

these systems will also allow those powers that wanna be to shut the car down when they want it. Way to much power and control in the wrong hands. It is amazing how stupid they will go to FORCE folks to do their bidding. They can't help it

When Tesla owners were evacuating Florida because of Hurricane Irma back in 2017, Tesla HQ was able to remotely extend the range of their electric cars:

 

https://electrek.co/2017/09/09/tesla-extends-range-vehicles-for-free-in-florida-escape-hurricane-irma/#:~:text=The company says that a,cost between %244%2C500 and %249%2C000

 

So that begs the question…if Tesla can extend the range by 30 or 50 miles, can they make the range drop to zero miles?

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On 12/15/2023 at 9:46 AM, I_moved_to_Missouri said:

So that begs the question…if Tesla can extend the range by 30 or 50 miles, can they make the range drop to zero miles?

They can do whatever Elon wants.  

It's not really your car.
Well, maybe it's your car, but it's Tesla's OS.
 

Be glad it's not a Microsoft car.  It would stop in the middle of a downpour down a busy interstate because it's time for an update.

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On 12/15/2023 at 10:20 AM, Black Flag said:

They can do whatever Elon wants.  

It's not really your car.
Well, maybe it's your car, but it's Tesla's OS.
 

Be glad it's not a Microsoft car.  It would stop in the middle of a downpour down a busy interstate because it's time for an update.

This is why I am at the point if I ever bother to walk onto a car dealership lot my first question will be "what is the oldest thing you have for sale". Not to dox myself but I work with computers all day every day and what they are doing on these cars now is not technology but rather engineered obsolescence. When a new $80,000 half ton truck will be in the junkyard after the 20 computers have intentionally failed in 20 years and no one can fix it affordably. Meanwhile I can go get a 70's or 80's model and replace the entire drivetrain FIVE FUGGING TIMES and still not touch the prices on this new stuff......I work on computers by day so I can play with this at night. 

 

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davel501 Member

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It's the whole deal. Why don't Volvo cars rust? They just don't. Every other car is a pile of rust within a couple of years of the 10 year rust warranty running out. With car prices so high I'm starting to wonder if it's worth getting something nice considering it will return to the earth in a little over a decade. 

Jeffrey Member

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On 12/15/2023 at 11:35 AM, davel501 said:

It's the whole deal. Why don't Volvo cars rust? They just don't. Every other car is a pile of rust within a couple of years of the 10 year rust warranty running out. With car prices so high I'm starting to wonder if it's worth getting something nice considering it will return to the earth in a little over a decade. 

I had my Jeep repainted last summer, under warranty.  It was not even 5 years old.

davel501 Member

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On 12/15/2023 at 11:39 AM, Jeffrey said:

I had my Jeep repainted last summer, under warranty.  It was not even 5 years old.

 

Yeah Jeeps are fun. My wife's jl Rubicon has the fancy media panel but it's all written in Java. When it decides to upgrade you've got nothing while it downloads jar files slowly then it says it's done but it's not because the backup camera doesn't work for another 20 minutes. You'd think they'd use a modern language like Go, Ruby, etc for that. 

Flynn Member

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On 12/15/2023 at 6:29 AM, I_moved_to_Missouri said:

Oh…yeah…I know there is always going to be somebody who thinks they can outsmart the car’s safety “systems”.

 

My idea for the folks who will just fasten the seatbelt first, then hop in, and sit on the seatbelt would be for the reel or seatbelt tensioner to like measure that the seatbelt is actually going around somebody.

 

And now that just about every car has something like an iPad or a tablet smack dab in the middle of the screen, the car can ask the driver to input the seatbelt configurations for all 4 or more seats.  Then when that gets inputted into the screen, and the seatbelts show they have been stretched over some body and fastened, then the logic allows you to start the car.

 

I rack that up to stuff I will never buy unless I can 100% disable it, just like guns with some stupid bracelet or fingerprint needed before they work...

SiliconSorcerer Member

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On 12/15/2023 at 11:55 AM, davel501 said:

 

Yeah Jeeps are fun. My wife's jl Rubicon has the fancy media panel but it's all written in Java. When it decides to upgrade you've got nothing while it downloads jar files slowly then it says it's done but it's not because the backup camera doesn't work for another 20 minutes. You'd think they'd use a modern language like Go, Ruby, etc for that. 

I just puked up my lunch. 

 

davel501 Member

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On 12/15/2023 at 12:43 PM, SiliconSorcerer said:

I just puked up my lunch. 

 

 

Lol just picture the sales rep saying "if you think you hate it now just wait until the garbage collector kicks in". 🤣

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I believe the democrats' plan is to put Pritzker in the WH.  They got Biden in there by keeping him out of sight; keeping him in a basement.  They won't put JB out there until the 11th hour.  Then he's got all his billions to dump on the Champaign at the final hour.  It's their new strategy. 

 

I'd be willing to bet.  

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On 12/18/2023 at 7:52 AM, max503 said:

I believe the democrats' plan is to put Pritzker in the WH.  They got Biden in there by keeping him out of sight; keeping him in a basement.  They won't put JB out there until the 11th hour.  Then he's got all his billions to dump on the Champaign at the final hour.  It's their new strategy. 

 

I'd be willing to bet.  

I believe that is what HE wants but I don't think others agree, They want Newsom from California where he has done his best to turn it into a liberal socialist commie sewer. They want him to do that to the whole country, but the main reason they want him is he is good looking while jelly belly looks like a donut binging  Fred Flintstone reject

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