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Fraction of 1% of FOID card holders register banned guns in first week

Molly B.

By Molly B.
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I know someone who has been a long term gun control advocate who recently purchased a gun and intends to apply for a CCW.  He's in a position of some influence so I hope he will utilize his newfound perspective for good.  As I told him some time ago, the two sides of the gun control debate both claim to be against violence.  If the gun control advocates are truly against violence and not just politics, they should be working closely with the pro-second amendment folks to come up with realistic solutions to address the root causes of violence.

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As to the original post, I too would guess the final number to be around 1% or less.  Hopefully, the court systems will make it a moot question before the law goes into effect - or at least soon afterwards.

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On 12/11/2023 at 2:12 PM, Side-Swipe said:

The only thing I can think of are the mag couplers.

 

That actually would be kind of nice so you don't have to dig that little 10-rounder out every time. 

mikew Member

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On 12/11/2023 at 2:12 PM, Side-Swipe said:

The only thing I can think of are the mag couplers.

Perhaps you have not seen or used the rotary magazine in question.

there is no place for a mag coupler, right?

 

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On 12/11/2023 at 4:46 PM, mikew said:

Perhaps you have not seen or used the rotary magazine in question.

there is no place for a mag coupler, right?

 

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Coupler installed

 

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I continue to wonder what realistic expectations a law-abiding Illinois gun owner should have. It sure doesn't seem any courts are racing to get these many cases heard and decided before the 1-1-24 "Coundown to Felony" decision we all face. And that my friends is but 19 days from now.

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On 12/12/2023 at 8:30 AM, RandyP said:

I continue to wonder what realistic expectations a law-abiding Illinois gun owner should have. It sure doesn't seem any courts are racing to get these many cases heard and decided before the 1-1-24 "Coundown to Felony" decision we all face. And that my friends is but 19 days from now.

 

It's only a misdemeanor the first time they take your guns. That fine though, if you've got quite a few - hooowee. 

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On 12/12/2023 at 8:30 AM, RandyP said:

I continue to wonder what realistic expectations a law-abiding Illinois gun owner should have. It sure doesn't seem any courts are racing to get these many cases heard and decided before the 1-1-24 "Coundown to Felony" decision we all face. And that my friends is but 19 days from now.

Freedom isn't free

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mab22 Member

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On 12/11/2023 at 5:38 PM, mikeyk101 said:

Or this so 30rds are quickly available

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Looks like 3 individual 10 round mags attached to each other, not a single 30 round, it has to be manually removed and inserted. Knda like using duct tape. 

Just gave me an idea.... :rofl::devil:

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On 12/12/2023 at 10:57 AM, mab22 said:

Looks like 3 individual 10 round mags attached to each other, not a single 30 round, it has to be manually removed and inserted. Knda like using duct tape. 

Just gave me an idea.... :rofl::devil:

Correct, not a "30rd mag" but 30rds still quickly available, 10-10-10. Do a search for "TriMag 10/22" .

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On 12/14/2023 at 5:35 PM, Vodoun da Vinci said:

"There need to be a Federal """"assault weapons"""" ban and I favor that."

 

 

I can't believe this man. Makes me sick.

 

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It is disgusting.  He claims that the law is well understood yet he goes on to state two untruths when talking about it.  He claims that this is to register “automatic ""assault weapons"", which is likely conscious BS wordplay to confuse his gullible voters as we cannot own automatic weapons (with rare exception) in IL.  He then claims that we are supposed to register so-called “high  capacity magazines”… not true as most of us read it.  Yet he claims it is clear??  He is ignorant, lying, or (likely) both.  Someone (come one reporters, come on Bishop!) needs to call out that even the  blathering face of the law contradicts what the state tells us about it.  
 

And he says it will be further clarified moving forward but what is our registration deadline again?? It’s not Jan 15 and it hasn’t been extended.


 Yet we should trust a man who doesn’t understand his own regulations when he claims we won’t be punished while at the same time he wants to know where each gun is? 

 

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He thinks we are registering our high capacity magazines.......He thinks we all really do understand what we are supposed to do. He has no clue. How could people elect this jack rabbit?

 

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Yeti Member

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On 12/14/2023 at 6:28 PM, Vodoun da Vinci said:

He thinks we are registering our high capacity magazines.......He thinks we all really do understand what we are supposed to do. He has no clue. How could people elect this jack rabbit?

 

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Many of his voters were probably confused and thought they were electing a likable celebrity:

 

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DoYouFeelLucky Member

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I today head a democratic representative's staff member exclaim that if IL gun owners won't do as they are told we shouldn't let them move to IA.  He decided to shut up when a bunch of us turned around to look at him.  Never a dull moment when you go have lunch in the East Village.

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On 12/14/2023 at 7:25 PM, DoYouFeelLucky said:

I today head a democratic representative's staff member exclaim that if IL gun owners won't do as they are told we shouldn't let them move to IA.  He decided to shut up when a bunch of us turned around to look at him.  Never a dull moment when you go have lunch in the East Village.

Wonder how he planned on doing that? Just for grin and giggles

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On 12/15/2023 at 9:19 AM, Retiredguns said:

SCOTUS refused to hear it for the time being. I had my fingers crossed.

A Judge on SCOTUS refused to issue an injunction prior to a trial.

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Well, seeing we are not going to get any relief from the SC, I think it would be helpful for a discussion on the pro's and con's of registering. My original plan was to not register and simply remove anything of concern to my place out of state - which would be a headache. However, if this legal situation ever fails in our disfavor, it seems those who do not register would be restricted from bringing them back - again provided applicable portions of PICA prevail, which we all obviously hope will not.

 

On the flip side, if you do register, it seems you do preserve your right to keep those items you declare until of course, they take the next step with making them illegal and confiscation which we all know the left is ultimately working towards. However, before that, if we ever get wind, we always have the right to move said item(s) out of state at the point.

 

So, I'm becoming of the opinion we really have no choice but to register to preserve our Illinois ownership rights for now. If we prevail in the courts, I would imagine the state would be required to destroy all registration records, right?  And if we eventually lose, no doubt they are going to press forward with trying to make them illegal and confiscate, so we then might as well start moving stuff quickly.  I mean, if you move a registered item to a friendly state, which suddenly becomes an illegal item in Illinois, they certainly cannot force you to bring it back to surrender?

 

I don't know, but this is just so frustrating that the SC is dragging their feet on this.  Seems this should be a no brainer.

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On 12/15/2023 at 1:23 PM, mrmagloo said:

If we prevail in the courts, I would imagine the state would be required to destroy all registration records, right?

 

Because the State of Illinois has shown an exemplary track record of following the requirements placed upon them by the courts, right?

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On 12/15/2023 at 1:23 PM, mrmagloo said:

Well, seeing we are not going to get any relief from the SC,...

 

 

I know it's easy to think of Illinois as a gun control island with no influence from the outside world.  It's important to remember, though, that SCOTUS has already weighed in on  Maryland's firearm ban and on New Jersey's & California's magazine bans, reversing lower court decisions that upheld them.  We need to always keep in mind that we're not in this alone, and that we're not really starting from scratch.

 

 

 

 

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On 12/15/2023 at 1:23 PM, mrmagloo said:

... However, if this legal situation ever fails in our disfavor, it seems those who do not register would be restricted from bringing them back - again provided applicable portions of PICA prevail, which we all obviously hope will not.

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And, per Swanhunter's 12/14/2023 post  over at AR15

 

"According to Head Legal @ ISP, the "registration window" will remain open to everyone after the date requiring registration to maintain in state ownership...We contacted her today for clarification.  So, should you wish to store any guns out of state and later decide (before this crap law is killed) you want to bring them back into your in state possession, you can register them at that time."

 

 

 

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