Vivek appears to really and completely 'get it' about the 2nd

[ragsbo]

On 8/28/2023 at 11:56 PM, soundguy said:

 

I agree with you, Christy has virtually no chance.

But... in a fair and honest election only Trump has lost to Biden.

 

Cheers,

Tim

There was NOTHING fair and honest about that election= you need to buy a better quality of drugs to snort!

[soundguy]

On 8/29/2023 at 8:01 PM, ragsbo said:

There was NOTHING fair and honest about that election= you need to buy a better quality of drugs to snort!

 

Are all conservatives so gullible?

 

Cheers,

Tim

[rmart]

All all liberals naturally blind, or do they have to work at it?

 

Cheers

[Illinois Sucks]

On 8/30/2023 at 6:37 AM, soundguy said:

 

Are all conservatives so gullible?

 

Cheers,

Tim

Why can't you answer the questions?   Well, we know why.....   lol

 

Is it your contention that the constant barrage of FALSE attacks against President Trump by Democrats, legacy media, big tech, social media, etc had ZERO impact on how people voted

Is it your contention that the same groups of people hiding TRUE accusations against the Biden crime family had ZERO impact on how people voted?

 

We all know you are full of fertilizer.   Thanks for playing.

[Smallbore]

On 8/30/2023 at 6:37 AM, soundguy said:

 

Are all conservatives so gullible?

 

Cheers,

Tim

What's gullible about believing Democrat state officials who stated they set aside the protection of their state election laws flooding the mail with unsecured ballot? Are these Democrats liars? 

[Illinois Sucks]

On 8/30/2023 at 7:49 AM, Smallbore said:

What's gullible about believing Democrat state officials who stated they set aside the protection of their state election laws flooding the mail with unsecured ballot? Are these Democrats liars? 

Maybe Tim means gullible as in "we respond to his troll posts"?

[Smallbore]

On 8/30/2023 at 8:24 AM, Illinois Sucks said:

Maybe Tim means gullible as in "we respond to his troll posts"?

I think you got it. I am so gullible.

[soundguy]

On 8/30/2023 at 8:24 AM, Illinois Sucks said:

Maybe Tim means gullible as in "we respond to his troll posts"?

 

I mean gullible as in believing anything that Trump says. He has been claiming "rigged election" since before he won in 2016. He continues to do so even though there has been zero evidence or proof that there was any misconduct in the 2020 election. He will be on trial soon for attempting to alter the results of the election in Georgia and then attempting to change the Elector count in the Senate and could possibly serve time in prison for these crimes. Thank God Pence was not swayed by Trump to steal the election or he and half of the Senate could be in the same boat.

 

Trump has been under investigation for these things, and others, long before he declared his 2020 candidacy. His claims of election interference are laughable. Yes... it's been ongoing but for good reasons.

 

I could go on... but this is what I mean by gullible:

A continued belief in lies told by a notorious known liar.

 

I think you are all smarter than this.

You are deeply stuck in the pit of belief.

Think for yourselves.

 

Cheers,

Tim

[Jeffrey]

 

[Illinois Sucks]

On 8/30/2023 at 8:41 AM, soundguy said:

 

I mean gullible as in believing anything that Trump says. He has been claiming "rigged election" since before he won in 2016. He continues to do so even though there has been zero evidence or proof that there was any misconduct in the 2020 election. He will be on trial soon for attempting to alter the results of the election in Georgia and then attempting to change the Elector count in the Senate and could possibly serve time in prison for these crimes. Thank God Pence was not swayed by Trump to steal the election or he and half of the Senate could be in the same boat.

 

Trump has been under investigation for these things, and others, long before he declared his 2020 candidacy. His claims of election interference are laughable. Yes... it's been ongoing but for good reasons.

 

I could go on... but this is what I mean by gullible:

A continued belief in lies told by a notorious known liar.

 

I think you are all smarter than this.

You are deeply stuck in the pit of belief.

Think for yourselves.

 

Cheers,

Tim

BWWWWAAAAAHHHHHAAAAAAAHHHHAAA  HAHAHAHhahahahah

 

 

[G214me]

On 8/29/2023 at 7:56 AM, mab22 said:

I forget the guy's name but he said something about not going to a 7 11 without speaking a foreign language, and he also mentioned that Obama was "the first clean cut bright articulate African american". It must have been Reagan and the Republican party?!

Lets not forget the "Poor kids are just as talented as white kids." DANG THOSE RACIST REPUBLICANS!🤣

Here's the clips.

 

 

Almost forgot about these classics, nice job putting them up !!!! What a great example of just how racist and bigoted leftists / liberal Democrats are. From the days they wore hoods and robes  all the way thru history like Woodrow Wilsons ( he was a progressive ) movie night and Mayor Daley and his race based FOID card system they just keep up the hatred. The newest twist is the wide open border. What terrible way to make sure we have plenty of brown skinned people to do back breaking work for half the pay and zero protections under the law or maybe end up as a sex slave. 

[mab22]

On 8/30/2023 at 9:20 AM, Illinois Sucks said:

BWWWWAAAAAHHHHHAAAAAAAHHHHAAA  HAHAHAHhahahahah

 

 

I’ll bet the same person you are laughing at, won’t even acknowledge the video posted by Jefferey showing all the comments by the LUNATIC, China bought and paid for, Russian bought and paid for, Progressive/Marxist/Socialist/Communist Democrat party, denying elections. 
Here, it’s linked again so it can be ignored by the brain washed left!

 

On 8/30/2023 at 9:19 AM, Jeffrey said:

 

 

[Illinois Sucks]

On 8/30/2023 at 8:41 AM, soundguy said:

 

I mean gullible as in believing anything that Trump says. He has been claiming "rigged election" since before he won in 2016. He continues to do so even though there has been zero evidence or proof that there was any misconduct in the 2020 election. He will be on trial soon for attempting to alter the results of the election in Georgia and then attempting to change the Elector count in the Senate and could possibly serve time in prison for these crimes. Thank God Pence was not swayed by Trump to steal the election or he and half of the Senate could be in the same boat.

 

Trump has been under investigation for these things, and others, long before he declared his 2020 candidacy. His claims of election interference are laughable. Yes... it's been ongoing but for good reasons.

 

I could go on... but this is what I mean by gullible:

A continued belief in lies told by a notorious known liar.

 

I think you are all smarter than this.

You are deeply stuck in the pit of belief.

Think for yourselves.

 

Cheers,

Tim

 

Every day there is something new coming out that PROVES the election was rigged in different ways.  All combined, I believe it is accurate to suggest the election was stolen.  

On 8/30/2023 at 12:27 PM, mab22 said:

I’ll bet the same person you are laughing at, won’t even acknowledge the video posted by Jefferey showing all the comments by the LUNATIC, China bought and paid for, Russian bought and paid for, Progressive/Marxist/Socialist/Communist Democrat party, denying elections. 
Here, it’s linked again so it can be ignored by the brain washed left!

 

 

 

 

I think they keep Tim around simply for our entertainment.  I love a good belly laugh every once in a while.  Try reading his posts like they are written in purple font.  That makes it even funnier.

 

TIMMAH!!!!

[Windchaser]

On 8/30/2023 at 8:41 AM, soundguy said:

 

I mean gullible as in believing anything that Trump says. He has been claiming "rigged election" since before he won in 2016. He continues to do so even though there has been zero evidence or proof that there was any misconduct in the 2020 election. He will be on trial soon for attempting to alter the results of the election in Georgia and then attempting to change the Elector count in the Senate and could possibly serve time in prison for these crimes. Thank God Pence was not swayed by Trump to steal the election or he and half of the Senate could be in the same boat.

 

Trump has been under investigation for these things, and others, long before he declared his 2020 candidacy. His claims of election interference are laughable. Yes... it's been ongoing but for good reasons.

 

I could go on... but this is what I mean by gullible:

A continued belief in lies told by a notorious known liar.

 

I think you are all smarter than this.

You are deeply stuck in the pit of belief.

Think for yourselves.

 

Cheers,

Tim

I am not fan of Trump as a person. He has too many faults. I do like the vast majority of his policies and things he has said. Definitely not a fan of how he said most things. With that said how do prove that there was no fraud with mail in ballots? You can never prove that it didn't happen. But it can also be near impossible to prove that it did. If you ballot harvested vast numbers of voters who are registered but never/rarely vote and then send those ballots in you have what appears to be legitimate votes. With states sending mail in ballots to all registered ballots whether they requested them or not this is certainly a possibility. Unless the investigations surveyed every mail in voter who submitted a ballot and asked whether they did or not, you have no way to know where that ballot came from. That is one example of possible fraud that could easily go undetected. Another method would be to gather up a ton of homeless or poor people who have not registered and then register them, bus them to the polls and promise them something in return if they vote for your candidate. I can easily see where many votes could be obtained this way. How about people going to the polls and identifying themselves as someone and casting their ballot. Again, find the registered voters who normally don't vote and cast their ballots at the polls. This takes more effort but it is not impossible. What about absentee voting. How do you make sure that is not manipulated.

 

All of these methods are quite possible given todays voting laws and procedures and are very difficult to prove or disprove. (You can never prove a negative).

 

Do I believe every claim from Trump that there was fraud. No. However I have lost confidence in the system enough to see it a very likely possibility. Chicago elections have been questionable for decades.

 

So for you to claim that there was absolutely no fraud is not accurate, even with the investigations that took place. There are many ways the current system can be manipulated that you simply cannot truthfully say there is no fraud.

[mab22]

On 8/30/2023 at 12:55 PM, Illinois Sucks said:

 

Every day there is something new coming out that PROVES the election was rigged in different ways.  All combined, I believe it is accurate to suggest the election was stolen.  

 

 

I think they keep Tim around simply for our entertainment.  I love a good belly laugh every once in a while.  Try reading his posts like they are written in purple font.  That makes it even funnier.

 

TIMMAH!!!!

[yurimodin]

On 8/30/2023 at 8:41 AM, soundguy said:

 

I mean gullible as in believing anything that Trump says. He has been claiming "rigged election" since before he won in 2016. He continues to do so even though there has been zero evidence or proof that there was any misconduct in the 2020 election. He will be on trial soon for attempting to alter the results of the election in Georgia and then attempting to change the Elector count in the Senate and could possibly serve time in prison for these crimes. Thank God Pence was not swayed by Trump to steal the election or he and half of the Senate could be in the same boat.

 

Trump has been under investigation for these things, and others, long before he declared his 2020 candidacy. His claims of election interference are laughable. Yes... it's been ongoing but for good reasons.

 

I could go on... but this is what I mean by gullible:

A continued belief in lies told by a notorious known liar.

 

I think you are all smarter than this.

You are deeply stuck in the pit of belief.

Think for yourselves.

 

Cheers,

Tim

 

There is plenty of video evidence of GA election workers running the same ballots through the machines multiple times after they sent ppl home because of a leaky toilet. Saying the word "deboonked" doesn't change it......I have the videos saved if you want to see them.

 

Alternate electors have been submitted many times in the past by both parties when there were issues and states were heavily contested and it was not considered treasonous insuwection. Its actually a valid use of the electoral college system.  For at least the last 20 years each losing party (Republicans AND Democrats) have raised the the motion to throw out electors. It's part of the process.

 

All of that aside I like Vivek's plan for:

-single day voting in person (absentee for disabled and deployed military like we have always done)

-national holiday

-paper ballots

-voter ID

 

Then we can ALL stop complaining about this and put it behind us......everyone can have confidence in the outcome and Democrats can stop cowering under their desks as Republicans threaten the very fabric of democracy by daring to have questions.

 

[cybermgk]

On 8/29/2023 at 11:33 AM, soundguy said:

 

 

Interesting blame game.

 

Mr Trump lost because enough previous supporters were done with him and the much higher voter turnout went for Biden. Trump kinda messed up on the CoVid thing, except for pouring money into vaccines... good for him on that.

 

Any changes in voting procedures affected all voters equally.

 

Cheers,

Tim

 

Start @4:15 to get to the bombshell

Edited August 30, 2023 at 06:45 PM by cybermgk

[cybermgk]

On 8/30/2023 at 8:41 AM, soundguy said:

 

 

Think for yourselves.

 

Cheers,

Tim

He says as he perfectly regurgitates MSM talking points on this subject.

[mab22]

On 8/30/2023 at 11:05 AM, G214me said:

Almost forgot about these classics, nice job putting them up !!!! What a great example of just how racist and bigoted leftists / liberal Democrats are. From the days they wore hoods and robes  all the way thru history like Woodrow Wilsons ( he was a progressive ) movie night and Mayor Daley and his race based FOID card system they just keep up the hatred. The newest twist is the wide open border. What terrible way to make sure we have plenty of brown skinned people to do back breaking work for half the pay and zero protections under the law or maybe end up as a sex slave. 

Here's another about NOT marching and doing sit-ins, in the civil rights movements.

For some reason his big brain remembers the lies he use to tell.

 

[ragsbo]

On 8/30/2023 at 6:37 AM, soundguy said:

 

Are all conservatives so gullible?

 

Cheers,

Tim

Nope, we just see the truth and don't drink the liberal socialist commie cool-aide! And if you were truthful, you would agree but you just enjoy stirring crap up/

[Smallbore]

This is an informative thread for the uninformed fence sitters. It is important to keep putting out the efficacy of the conservative patriotic truth.

[JTHunter]

For those of you who seem to think so much of the "Hindu Hottie", this may change your minds.  In some forum, I had posted that Vivek strikes me as a "chameleon" and not to be trusted.  Here's some evidence to support that opinion.

 

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/smoke-mirrors-ve-debating-vivek-153316722.html

 

Quote

As the great illusionist Harry Houdini once said, “The secret of showmanship consists not of what you really do, but what the mystery-loving public thinks you do.” Entrepreneurial huckster Vivek Ramaswamy has graduated from being the court jester of corporate governance to now becoming a serious contender for the GOP presidential nomination as some 5% of primary Republican voters indicate they are entertained by his antics.

 

As one of the few people who have debated Ramaswamy in multiple public appearances and studied the reality of his business resume, I have repeatedly cleared the diversionary smoke he deploys by revealing the reality of his pump-and-dump business playbook. Now Ramaswamy seems to have retrofitted it for politics.

 

[yurimodin]

On 8/31/2023 at 10:16 PM, JTHunter said:

For those of you who seem to think so much of the "Hindu Hottie", this may change your minds.  In some forum, I had posted that Vivek strikes me as a "chameleon" and not to be trusted.  Here's some evidence to support that opinion.

 

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/smoke-mirrors-ve-debating-vivek-153316722.html

 

 

The knives only come out when you're over the target..........those in glass houses.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-2004-10-28-0410280265-story.html

Quote

Donald Trump has lined up three New York hedge funds, including money from billionaire George Soros, to invest $160 million in his Chicago skyscraper, a key piece in perhaps the largest construction financing in the city's history, according to real estate sources and public documents.

 

 

Edited September 1, 2023 at 03:59 PM by yurimodin
added

[mab22]

On 9/1/2023 at 10:56 AM, yurimodin said:

The knives only come out when you're over the target..........those in glass houses.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-2004-10-28-0410280265-story.html

 

That was 2004, about 19 years ago.

[mab22]

On 8/30/2023 at 11:05 AM, G214me said:

Almost forgot about these classics, nice job putting them up !!!! What a great example of just how racist and bigoted leftists / liberal Democrats are. From the days they wore hoods and robes  all the way thru history like Woodrow Wilsons ( he was a progressive ) movie night and Mayor Daley and his race based FOID card system they just keep up the hatred. The newest twist is the wide open border. What terrible way to make sure we have plenty of brown skinned people to do back breaking work for half the pay and zero protections under the law or maybe end up as a sex slave. 

Here’s some fresh ones. The Racist remarks just keeeeeeep on coming. 
 

Quote

African- Americans, Hispanics and veterans- you know those without a high school diploma.

 

[Quiet Observer]

On 8/30/2023 at 1:35 PM, yurimodin said:

 

There is plenty of video evidence of GA election workers running the same ballots through the machines multiple times after they sent ppl home because of a leaky toilet. Saying the word "deboonked" doesn't change it......I have the videos saved if you want to see them.

 

Alternate electors have been submitted many times in the past by both parties when there were issues and states were heavily contested and it was not considered treasonous insuwection. Its actually a valid use of the electoral college system.  For at least the last 20 years each losing party (Republicans AND Democrats) have raised the the motion to throw out electors. It's part of the process.

 

All of that aside I like Vivek's plan for:

-single day voting in person (absentee for disabled and deployed military like we have always done)

-national holiday

-paper ballots

-voter ID

 

Then we can ALL stop complaining about this and put it behind us......everyone can have confidence in the outcome and Democrats can stop cowering under their desks as Republicans threaten the very fabric of democracy by daring to have questions.

 

I do not see any of those videos in your post. 

I am sure those alternate electors in the past were certified by their respective states, and not just a self-proclaimed group that disagreed with the official outcome. 

There will still be complaints in the timing of the arrival of disabled and deployed votes. 

Paper ballots are still going to be counted by machines. If counted by hand, there will be complaints that the count is taking too long. Like the chad and "confusing ballot" fiascos in Florida several years ago, people will still mismark their ballots. At least, that will be the claim of many of the losers. 

 

Edited September 16, 2023 at 06:18 PM by Quiet Observer