mab22 Posted August 15, 2023 at 02:26 PM Share Posted August 15, 2023 at 02:26 PM Are there bills in the works for mandatory storage, and insurance requirements? I seen an email from ISRA Victory fund raiser that mentioned the following. Quote Gov. Pritzker made it pretty clear that he will support mandating firearms storage in your home and require gun owners to carry insurance. The legislature and Executive branch seem to be pushing/passing everything that has already failed at the federal level. I'm sure suing them at the "state level" is bound to yield significant results. 🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springfield shooter Posted August 15, 2023 at 02:33 PM Share Posted August 15, 2023 at 02:33 PM Given their obvious....and vigorous....efforts to combat crime in the Chicago/Cook area, we can be certain that harassing law abiding gun owners is the last thing on the Democrats' minds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yurimodin Posted August 15, 2023 at 02:50 PM Share Posted August 15, 2023 at 02:50 PM For what little good it does to mention, hasn't this already been addressed by SCOTUS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted August 15, 2023 at 03:37 PM Share Posted August 15, 2023 at 03:37 PM HB676 was amended in the House to include creation of a task force on firearm insurance. It passed over to the Senate on 5/12/2023. There have also been some storage bills filed, but they haven't seen as much traction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mab22 Posted August 15, 2023 at 04:17 PM Author Share Posted August 15, 2023 at 04:17 PM On 8/15/2023 at 10:37 AM, mauserme said: HB676 was amended in the House to include creation of a task force on firearm insurance. It passed over to the Senate on 5/12/2023. There have also been some storage bills filed, but they haven't seen as much traction. That one has so much in it, no discharge within 1000 yards of residential structures. Need a FOID for prepacked explosives. Task force on Insurance with report due by end of the year, get ready for that one. Firearm SEIZURE from protective orders. Can only surrender to law enforcement, no transfers. "Requires the court to immediately upon the entry of the order of protection prohibiting firearm possession issue a seizure order of any firearm in the possession of the respondent. Provides that the respondent shall be ordered to immediately surrender any firearms to the appropriate law enforcement agency and prohibited from transferring firearms to another individual in lieu of surrender to law enforcement." That makes me wonder, if they TAKE your firearms away from you, do they have to reimburse you for the items they seized? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quiet Observer Posted August 15, 2023 at 04:35 PM Share Posted August 15, 2023 at 04:35 PM If mandatory gun insurance passes, will gangs be able to get reduced rates for their members? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted August 15, 2023 at 04:36 PM Share Posted August 15, 2023 at 04:36 PM The "no discharge" piece is a result of our (IllinoisCarry's) fight against a proposed ordinance in Kane County. We stopped them at the county level so they brought it to one of their favorite anti-gun reps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yurimodin Posted August 15, 2023 at 05:03 PM Share Posted August 15, 2023 at 05:03 PM cool, more nonsense for me not to comply with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Posted August 15, 2023 at 06:24 PM Share Posted August 15, 2023 at 06:24 PM On 8/15/2023 at 12:03 PM, yurimodin said: cool, more nonsense for me not to comply with x1655655212 Of course that is just what they want. Current felons get more free passes while those of us who've chosen to abide become the felon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odinson Posted August 15, 2023 at 07:36 PM Share Posted August 15, 2023 at 07:36 PM On 8/15/2023 at 9:33 AM, springfield shooter said: Given their obvious....and vigorous....efforts to combat crime in the Chicago/Cook area, we can be certain that harassing law abiding gun owners is the last thing on the Democrats' minds. Here's an example of the 'efforts'. Hard to believe, but this is not in purple. Chicago gangs asked to stop shooting from 9 a.m. to 9 p.m.: ‘You’re getting little kids killed’ (msn.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richp Posted August 15, 2023 at 08:04 PM Share Posted August 15, 2023 at 08:04 PM The real answers to these problems are too complex and too difficult, and so deeply entrenched in dysfunctional social systems and politics, that they default to the easy answers - targeting people who are law abiding. LP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragsbo Posted August 15, 2023 at 08:26 PM Share Posted August 15, 2023 at 08:26 PM Why wouldn't they not push for and pass everything they can toward total firearm confiscation since they are never held accountable for the unconstitutional stuff they passed. The idea would be to pass everything they can and hope that either their bought off courts will up hold it or at least something will pass muster in the federal courts. They are playing the long game and will not stop until made to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RECarry Posted August 15, 2023 at 09:26 PM Share Posted August 15, 2023 at 09:26 PM On 8/15/2023 at 3:26 PM, ragsbo said: Why wouldn't they not push for and pass everything they can toward total firearm confiscation since they are never held accountable for the unconstitutional stuff they passed. The idea would be to pass everything they can and hope that either their bought off courts will up hold it or at least something will pass muster in the federal courts. They are playing the long game and will not stop until made to. And leftists won't admit their draconian gun bans will solve nothing. Gang violence won't stop and the Dems won't ever touch Big Pharma profits that help create soul-less blank-stare zombies who go full-whacko in public. The self-abusers among them will continue committing suicide. Let them have their decadent immoral society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yettiblood Posted August 15, 2023 at 09:47 PM Share Posted August 15, 2023 at 09:47 PM On 8/15/2023 at 12:03 PM, yurimodin said: cool, more nonsense for me not to comply with Yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiliconSorcerer Posted August 16, 2023 at 03:11 PM Share Posted August 16, 2023 at 03:11 PM On 8/15/2023 at 11:17 AM, mab22 said: That one has so much in it, no discharge within 1000 yards of residential structures. Need a FOID for prepacked explosives. Task force on Insurance with report due by end of the year, get ready for that one. Firearm SEIZURE from protective orders. Can only surrender to law enforcement, no transfers. "Requires the court to immediately upon the entry of the order of protection prohibiting firearm possession issue a seizure order of any firearm in the possession of the respondent. Provides that the respondent shall be ordered to immediately surrender any firearms to the appropriate law enforcement agency and prohibited from transferring firearms to another individual in lieu of surrender to law enforcement." That makes me wonder, if they TAKE your firearms away from you, do they have to reimburse you for the items they seized? Where can you buy prepackaged explosives? We bought dynamite when I was a kid from the local hardware store but that was 50+ years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upholder Posted August 16, 2023 at 03:21 PM Share Posted August 16, 2023 at 03:21 PM They are (improperly) referring to Tannerite and such as "prepacked" explosives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davel501 Posted August 16, 2023 at 04:15 PM Share Posted August 16, 2023 at 04:15 PM On 8/16/2023 at 10:21 AM, Upholder said: They are (improperly) referring to Tannerite and such as "prepacked" explosives. Let's make them pass it to find out what's in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mab22 Posted August 16, 2023 at 05:04 PM Author Share Posted August 16, 2023 at 05:04 PM On 8/16/2023 at 10:11 AM, SiliconSorcerer said: Where can you buy prepackaged explosives? We bought dynamite when I was a kid from the local hardware store but that was 50+ years ago. I would think Wisconsin, Indiana, Iowa, Michigan, probably all the states around Illinois. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiliconSorcerer Posted August 16, 2023 at 11:44 PM Share Posted August 16, 2023 at 11:44 PM On 8/16/2023 at 11:15 AM, davel501 said: Let's make them pass it to find out what's in it. I can't wait for banning components, If you put aluminum foil in a tumbler long enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTHunter Posted August 17, 2023 at 12:58 AM Share Posted August 17, 2023 at 12:58 AM On 8/15/2023 at 3:04 PM, richp said: The real answers to these problems are too complex and too difficult, and so deeply entrenched in dysfunctional social systems and politics, that they default to the easy answers - targeting people who are law abiding. LP Only if you're working on the base causes. The answer to recidivism is permanent elimination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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