mab22 Posted December 4, 2023 at 09:45 PM Share Posted December 4, 2023 at 09:45 PM On 12/4/2023 at 12:54 PM, Dumak_from_arfcom said: Well what options does the state really have in filing a response? Deny the judges campaigned with anti-gun groups for an AWB, and took money from those groups to get elected? That would be worse than scrubbing their social media accounts of the evidence. This is just the Illinois way of saying "We did nothing wrong" while holding the smoking gun. I think we REALLY need to make sure the PROPER people get credit for this. It is the LEFT WING DEMOCRAT PARTY, not the State that is doing this. LEFT WING Democrat: Governor, Speaker of the house, President of the senate, States attorney, Supreme Court Justice Rochford, Supreme Court Justice O’Brien. Add in the major sponsors and and they are ALL DEMOCRATS. I guarantee you the praetorian guard media would be pointing out EVERY INCH of the way that all parties “were Republicans”, if it’s an issue they were ticked off over. So lets make sure that we give credit where it’s DUE, the Left wing radical DEMOCRAT party of Illinois is doing this, not Illinois! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upholder Posted December 4, 2023 at 11:02 PM Share Posted December 4, 2023 at 11:02 PM Plaintiff's supplemental brief for petition for writ of certiorari: https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/23/23-510/292226/20231204164359216_44584 pdf Sullivan br.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted December 4, 2023 at 11:59 PM Share Posted December 4, 2023 at 11:59 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mab22 Posted December 5, 2023 at 12:08 AM Share Posted December 5, 2023 at 12:08 AM On 12/4/2023 at 5:59 PM, steveTA84 said: Nothing to see here, just some Democrats rolling dirty, as usual. We will see if SCOTUS gives 2 💩💩. Now I think we know why the left Wing Democrat party didn’t want to reply to the filing, they are hiding more and it wasn’t above board. Like Stocks said, you have to fully disclose and without being misleading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RANDY Posted December 5, 2023 at 01:11 AM Share Posted December 5, 2023 at 01:11 AM The state not replying is their way of pleading the 5th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted December 5, 2023 at 03:15 AM Share Posted December 5, 2023 at 03:15 AM Regardless of what happens, Caulkins team did what needed to be done. Props to them. Too bad they didn’t included the smoking gun though,, but it’s ok https://www.mom-at-arms.com/post/major-hurdle-for-the-il-supreme-court-justice-who-upheld-the-il-gun-ban Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted December 6, 2023 at 05:02 PM Share Posted December 6, 2023 at 05:02 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yurimodin Posted December 6, 2023 at 05:20 PM Share Posted December 6, 2023 at 05:20 PM On 12/6/2023 at 11:02 AM, steveTA84 said: 1-5-2024......of course they did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumak_from_arfcom Posted December 6, 2023 at 07:11 PM Share Posted December 6, 2023 at 07:11 PM On 12/6/2023 at 11:20 AM, yurimodin said: 1-5-2024......of course they did. Not surprised at this. The caulkins case is something that will need to go to conference. There is a lot of corruption and campaign finance law breaking to cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tvandermyde Posted December 6, 2023 at 07:31 PM Share Posted December 6, 2023 at 07:31 PM I doubt they will take it. If they do and remand, it opens up a whole can of worms for the dems to toss at Thomas and Alito. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRE Posted December 6, 2023 at 09:01 PM Share Posted December 6, 2023 at 09:01 PM On 12/6/2023 at 11:20 AM, yurimodin said: 1-5-2024......of course they did. according to their calendar, after this Friday there are no conferences set until 1-5, so this isn’t surprising. And , similar to what I said before, I tend to agree with Todd here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flynn Posted December 6, 2023 at 09:16 PM Share Posted December 6, 2023 at 09:16 PM On 12/6/2023 at 1:31 PM, Tvandermyde said: I doubt they will take it. If they do and remand, it opens up a whole can of worms for the dems to toss at Thomas and Alito. The Democrats will toss that can of worms regardless, it's time the conservatives accept this and stop trying to tread lightly to avoid the inevitable... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Q Public Posted December 6, 2023 at 09:17 PM Share Posted December 6, 2023 at 09:17 PM (edited) I hope they look to the constitution. The other side is going to go after them no matter what.... It matters not, which case they hear, there are no passes, the left will attack no matter, unless they rule with the leftists. If they wait the degradation of stature, and respect will only increase. The SC showed us their chops, ruling correctly on Roe... I choose to wait and see. JQ Edited December 6, 2023 at 09:23 PM by John Q Public Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yurimodin Posted December 6, 2023 at 09:59 PM Share Posted December 6, 2023 at 09:59 PM On 12/6/2023 at 3:17 PM, John Q Public said: I hope they look to the constitution. The other side is going to go after them no matter what.... It matters not, which case they hear, there are no passes, the left will attack no matter, unless they rule with the leftists. If they wait the degradation of stature, and respect will only increase. The SC showed us their chops, ruling correctly on Roe... I choose to wait and see. JQ Point 1: Once they figure out there is no peace with the left they might finally grow a spine. The left demands nothing less than absolute submission to their statist jihad. Point 2: Never forget the talent Roberts has for screwing us (remember 0-care) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springfield shooter Posted December 7, 2023 at 12:05 AM Share Posted December 7, 2023 at 12:05 AM (edited) On 12/6/2023 at 3:17 PM, John Q Public said: I hope they look to the constitution. The other side is going to go after them no matter what.... It matters not, which case they hear, there are no passes, the left will attack no matter, unless they rule with the leftists. If they wait the degradation of stature, and respect will only increase. The SC showed us their chops, ruling correctly on Roe... I choose to wait and see. JQ The conservatives on the Court have shown a willingness. Hopefully that continues. Edited December 7, 2023 at 12:22 AM by springfield shooter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomKoz Posted December 7, 2023 at 01:24 AM Share Posted December 7, 2023 at 01:24 AM How is this whole situation Not “Conspiracy Against Rights”? https://www.findlaw.com/criminal/criminal-charges/conspiracy-against-rights.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mab22 Posted December 7, 2023 at 04:55 AM Share Posted December 7, 2023 at 04:55 AM On 12/6/2023 at 7:24 PM, TomKoz said: How is this whole situation Not “Conspiracy Against Rights”? https://www.findlaw.com/criminal/criminal-charges/conspiracy-against-rights.html Because we keep getting judges that see them a “D” Different, AKA Democrats! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted December 8, 2023 at 05:45 PM Share Posted December 8, 2023 at 05:45 PM Caulkins team filed for a stay of the law, it’s just not showing up on the docket yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt B Posted December 8, 2023 at 06:02 PM Share Posted December 8, 2023 at 06:02 PM On 12/8/2023 at 11:45 AM, steveTA84 said: Caulkins team filed for a stay of the law, it’s just not showing up on the docket yet I guess if scotus denies the Bevis motion purely because that case is not before that court yet on final judgement, this gives them another vehicle to reinstate the injunction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted December 8, 2023 at 06:07 PM Share Posted December 8, 2023 at 06:07 PM On 12/8/2023 at 12:02 PM, Matt B said: I guess if scotus denies the Bevis motion purely because that case is not before that court yet on final judgement, this gives them another vehicle to reinstate the injunction. It’s a potential option. And the supplemental brief is great. Just in case anyone didn’t read it, guess who was defending Harmon? remember him? https://www.chicagotribune.com/politics/ct-state-board-of-elections-all-for-justice-fine-20231121-uzvzy5bjlbcujfxccsulp2bktu-story.html A political committee that helped expand the Democratic majority on the Illinois Supreme Court and was backed by Illinois Senate President Don Harmon emptied its bank account just weeks after being notified it faced one of the largest state election fines ever for failing to timely disclose millions of dollars it spent until after last November’s election. On Tuesday, the State Board of Elections issued a final order assessing $99,500 in fines against the All for Justice political action committee. The action followed a Tribune story earlier this year detailing the PAC’s reporting deficiencies as it spent more than $7.3 million on independent expenditures supporting Democratic Justices Elizabeth Rochford and Mary Kay O’Brien, both of whom won their campaigns and increased the court’s Democratic majority to 5-2 from a previous 4-3 advantage. . … A day before All for Justice transferred its remaining cash to the Chicago Independent Alliance PAC, the alliance PAC also received a $200 donation from the Andreou & Casson law firm. It was the first contribution the alliance PAC had received in more than 4 ½ years. State election board officials said they moved forward with a final order to assess the fines against All for Justice — despite its empty bank account — by citing a provision in its administrative rules that makes the officers of a PAC “personally liable” for civil penalties if the PAC “lends or donates funds to a second political committee” while it owes fines to the State Board of Elections. Casson is the only officer of the All for Justice PAC, according to state election records. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davel501 Posted December 8, 2023 at 10:01 PM Share Posted December 8, 2023 at 10:01 PM On 12/8/2023 at 12:07 PM, steveTA84 said: It’s a potential option. And the supplemental brief is great. Just in case anyone didn’t read it, guess who was defending Harmon? remember him? https://www.chicagotribune.com/politics/ct-state-board-of-elections-all-for-justice-fine-20231121-uzvzy5bjlbcujfxccsulp2bktu-story.html A political committee that helped expand the Democratic majority on the Illinois Supreme Court and was backed by Illinois Senate President Don Harmon emptied its bank account just weeks after being notified it faced one of the largest state election fines ever for failing to timely disclose millions of dollars it spent until after last November’s election. On Tuesday, the State Board of Elections issued a final order assessing $99,500 in fines against the All for Justice political action committee. The action followed a Tribune story earlier this year detailing the PAC’s reporting deficiencies as it spent more than $7.3 million on independent expenditures supporting Democratic Justices Elizabeth Rochford and Mary Kay O’Brien, both of whom won their campaigns and increased the court’s Democratic majority to 5-2 from a previous 4-3 advantage. . … A day before All for Justice transferred its remaining cash to the Chicago Independent Alliance PAC, the alliance PAC also received a $200 donation from the Andreou & Casson law firm. It was the first contribution the alliance PAC had received in more than 4 ½ years. State election board officials said they moved forward with a final order to assess the fines against All for Justice — despite its empty bank account — by citing a provision in its administrative rules that makes the officers of a PAC “personally liable” for civil penalties if the PAC “lends or donates funds to a second political committee” while it owes fines to the State Board of Elections. Casson is the only officer of the All for Justice PAC, according to state election records. Wait. So if this makes it to a hearing he could be asked by the justices to explain his actions on the record? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted December 8, 2023 at 11:01 PM Share Posted December 8, 2023 at 11:01 PM On 12/8/2023 at 4:01 PM, davel501 said: Wait. So if this makes it to a hearing he could be asked by the justices to explain his actions on the record? I honestly don’t know. The levels of corruption on every level of government in this case makes it all so confusing, especially since the AG waived their chance to respond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mab22 Posted December 9, 2023 at 05:53 AM Share Posted December 9, 2023 at 05:53 AM On 12/8/2023 at 5:01 PM, steveTA84 said: I honestly don’t know. The levels of corruption on every level of government in this case makes it all so confusing, especially since the AG waived their chance to respond So we have had 3 Guv's get orange jumpuits, Maybe the prez of the senate and or the speaker of the house will be "firsts" when it comes to "other then gov" getting an orange jumpsuit.... 🙏 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted December 11, 2023 at 03:53 AM Share Posted December 11, 2023 at 03:53 AM Oh wow lol. So Rochford’s campaign, 6 months after being seated, transferred money to a local Dem party it was one of the “top donors” to the party, in which the treasurer is sitting state rep Daniel Didech. This is just a joke at this point 😂😂😂😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davel501 Posted December 11, 2023 at 08:40 AM Share Posted December 11, 2023 at 08:40 AM They just locked down their socials. Looks like money flowing back to the usual gun grabbers. Have to wonder what this post was about. Seems to be blocked on the Wayback machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted December 11, 2023 at 12:34 PM Share Posted December 11, 2023 at 12:34 PM On 12/11/2023 at 2:40 AM, davel501 said: They just locked down their socials. Looks like money flowing back to the usual gun grabbers. Have to wonder what this post was about. Seems to be blocked on the Wayback machine. Interesting. It’s set to private now. Was that via a Google search or wayback machine. Either way, they weren’t always private that shows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mab22 Posted December 11, 2023 at 03:18 PM Share Posted December 11, 2023 at 03:18 PM On 12/10/2023 at 9:53 PM, steveTA84 said: Oh wow lol. So Rochford’s campaign, 6 months after being seated, transferred money to a local Dem party it was one of the “top donors” to the party, in which the treasurer is sitting state rep Daniel Didech. This is just a joke at this point 😂😂😂😂 I'm getting lost with all this.... So what does this mean? Who is he? What did he do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davel501 Posted December 11, 2023 at 03:35 PM Share Posted December 11, 2023 at 03:35 PM On 12/11/2023 at 9:18 AM, mab22 said: I'm getting lost with all this.... So what does this mean? Who is he? What did he do? You are watching the money get spread around in real time. The Vernon (Hills) Township Dems now have this money and can spread it to other campaign committees to do things like rewarding Eric Rinehart for charging Crimo Sr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mab22 Posted December 11, 2023 at 04:42 PM Share Posted December 11, 2023 at 04:42 PM On 12/11/2023 at 9:35 AM, davel501 said: You are watching the money get spread around in real time. The Vernon (Hills) Township Dems now have this money and can spread it to other campaign committees to do things like rewarding Eric Rinehart for charging Crimo Sr. Even more confusing . “what money”? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davel501 Posted December 11, 2023 at 05:48 PM Share Posted December 11, 2023 at 05:48 PM On 12/11/2023 at 10:42 AM, mab22 said: Even more confusing . “what money”? On 12/10/2023 at 9:53 PM, steveTA84 said: Oh wow lol. So Rochford’s campaign, 6 months after being seated, transferred money to a local Dem party it was one of the “top donors” to the party, in which the treasurer is sitting state rep Daniel Didech. This is just a joke at this point 😂😂😂😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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