DaveIL Posted January 26, 2023 at 08:16 PM Share Posted January 26, 2023 at 08:16 PM If this is in the wrong place Let me know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdDinIL Posted January 26, 2023 at 08:24 PM Share Posted January 26, 2023 at 08:24 PM (edited) The Back Room is always a good place to post something if you're not sure where it needs to go. The admins can move it or merge it with something if they feel it's relevant to a different section. Thanks for posting it! Edited January 26, 2023 at 08:25 PM by EdDinIL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveIL Posted January 26, 2023 at 08:32 PM Author Share Posted January 26, 2023 at 08:32 PM On 1/26/2023 at 2:24 PM, EdDinIL said: The Back Room is always a good place to post something if you're not sure where it needs to go. The admins can move it or merge it with something if they feel it's relevant to a different section. Thanks for posting it! I do what I can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted January 26, 2023 at 09:00 PM Share Posted January 26, 2023 at 09:00 PM It seems more like an Illinois Politics topic, so I moved it there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveIL Posted January 26, 2023 at 09:09 PM Author Share Posted January 26, 2023 at 09:09 PM On 1/26/2023 at 3:00 PM, mauserme said: It seems more like an Illinois Politics topic, so I moved it there. As we knew you would know the appropriate spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yurimodin Posted January 26, 2023 at 09:15 PM Share Posted January 26, 2023 at 09:15 PM THIS IS THE WAY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve51 Posted January 26, 2023 at 09:15 PM Share Posted January 26, 2023 at 09:15 PM Good video. Thanks for posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G214me Posted January 27, 2023 at 02:10 AM Share Posted January 27, 2023 at 02:10 AM Excellent video, Glad to see so many of our Sheriffs support the Constitution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunCollector Posted January 27, 2023 at 04:37 AM Share Posted January 27, 2023 at 04:37 AM Great video. Who is the gentleman in the suit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted January 27, 2023 at 12:06 PM Share Posted January 27, 2023 at 12:06 PM On 1/26/2023 at 10:37 PM, GunCollector said: Great video. Who is the gentleman in the suit? Representative Niemerg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangerdeepv Posted January 27, 2023 at 02:07 PM Share Posted January 27, 2023 at 02:07 PM Sheriffs know the US Constitution better than the ding-a-lings who pass the laws? Hooray and kudos to these LEO's who are carrying the water for the rights of all of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plinkermostly Posted January 27, 2023 at 02:25 PM Share Posted January 27, 2023 at 02:25 PM Some folks take their oaths seriously -- PTL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol-Invictus Posted January 28, 2023 at 02:55 PM Share Posted January 28, 2023 at 02:55 PM On 1/26/2023 at 10:37 PM, GunCollector said: Great video. Who is the gentleman in the suit? My representative. But I will be calling him and admonishing him for using the term gun violence. He is falling into the trap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davel501 Posted January 28, 2023 at 04:33 PM Share Posted January 28, 2023 at 04:33 PM On 1/28/2023 at 8:55 AM, Sol-Invictus said: My representative. But I will be calling him and admonishing him for using the term gun violence. He is falling into the trap. Admonishing? He's your guy in Springfield not some school child. Try treating him as a partner and giving him the tools he needs to succeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol-Invictus Posted January 28, 2023 at 05:20 PM Share Posted January 28, 2023 at 05:20 PM On 1/28/2023 at 10:33 AM, davel501 said: Admonishing? He's your guy in Springfield not some school child. Try treating him as a partner and giving him the tools he needs to succeed. I was planning on making it a learning experience. That is what a true partner does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lumpy76 Posted January 28, 2023 at 05:41 PM Share Posted January 28, 2023 at 05:41 PM I respect them and hope this is true, but we'll see what happens when they are pushed. Pensions, state money, etc. Hope it doesn't turn into more cops destroying our rights while "just following orders". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yurimodin Posted January 28, 2023 at 07:56 PM Share Posted January 28, 2023 at 07:56 PM On 1/28/2023 at 11:41 AM, lumpy76 said: I respect them and hope this is true, but we'll see what happens when they are pushed. Pensions, state money, etc. Hope it doesn't turn into more cops destroying our rights while "just following orders". They can send bachelors, freedom isn't free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mostholycerebus Posted January 28, 2023 at 08:55 PM Share Posted January 28, 2023 at 08:55 PM They don't need to kick down doors, they know your grandkids will turn them in for a $50 Starbucks gift card, because we weren't able to legally take them to the range and instil a pro 2A culture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilguy Posted January 29, 2023 at 10:40 AM Share Posted January 29, 2023 at 10:40 AM The pols who passed this law are not interested if it’s constitutional. Get it on the books and let us spin like tops for years figuring it out. they are playing the long game and spending taxpayer money to implement it, with voter support. When the ISP/ATF come crashing through the frt door try calling your sheriff for help. They will not aid in the enforcement, but I’m confident they’re not riding to our rescue. So I’m sending checks, hoping for the best but preparing for what I fear is inevitable. Until the last highest court rules strict controls on MSAs unconstitutional, we are nowhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted January 29, 2023 at 07:26 PM Share Posted January 29, 2023 at 07:26 PM On 1/29/2023 at 4:40 AM, lilguy said: The pols who passed this law are not interested if it’s constitutional. Get it on the books and let us spin like tops for years figuring it out. they are playing the long game and spending taxpayer money to implement it, with voter support. When the ISP/ATF come crashing through the frt door try calling your sheriff for help. They will not aid in the enforcement, but I’m confident they’re not riding to our rescue. So I’m sending checks, hoping for the best but preparing for what I fear is inevitable. Until the last highest court rules strict controls on MSAs unconstitutional, we are nowhere. ATF isn't going to enforce state law, and no one is going to be kicking doors for non-violent infractions. In committee, concern was expressed that this law would be used primarily to target people of color. Imagine ISP working with Sheriff Dart to prove that prediction correct, because without most of the other sheriffs' cooperation, it will be unenforceable almost everywhere except Cook County. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumak_from_arfcom Posted January 29, 2023 at 08:06 PM Share Posted January 29, 2023 at 08:06 PM Idleburg stated not only will he enforce the ban, he stated that he wants a complete ban. The moms also get him elected over Curran with a ballot harvesting operation. He has to pay them back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davel501 Posted January 29, 2023 at 08:42 PM Share Posted January 29, 2023 at 08:42 PM On 1/29/2023 at 2:06 PM, Dumak_from_arfcom said: Idleburg stated not only will he enforce the ban, he stated that he wants a complete ban. The moms also get him elected over Curran with a ballot harvesting operation. He has to pay them back. He did say he wanted to do a town hall on the subject. I'm keeping an eye out for that. My first question will be why does he have so many if they are only for killing people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RECarry Posted January 29, 2023 at 08:48 PM Share Posted January 29, 2023 at 08:48 PM (edited) On 1/29/2023 at 2:42 PM, davel501 said: He did say he wanted to do a town hall on the subject. I'm keeping an eye out for that. My first question will be why does he have so many if they are only for killing people. How many Lake County constituents have forgotten their ancestors (or neighbors' ancestors) who were disarmed, held prisoner in terrible conditions, starved to death, or murdered? AND if they called the former POTUS "literally Hitler", why would they deny others the tools needed to oppose a similar oppressor? How many immigrants from oppressive regimes do Lake County Karens know who fled murderous regimes and want their 2nd Amendment rights intact? I'm guessing the answer is zero. Edited January 29, 2023 at 08:51 PM by RECarry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikew Posted January 30, 2023 at 12:15 AM Share Posted January 30, 2023 at 12:15 AM On 1/29/2023 at 2:06 PM, Dumak_from_arfcom said: Idleburg stated not only will he enforce the ban, he stated that he wants a complete ban. Do you have a cite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upholder Posted January 30, 2023 at 01:25 AM Share Posted January 30, 2023 at 01:25 AM On 1/29/2023 at 2:42 PM, davel501 said: He did say he wanted to do a town hall on the subject. I'm keeping an eye out for that. My first question will be why does he have so many if they are only for killing people. More pointedly, ask why does his department ISSUE them to the officers in his employ if they are weapons of war, useful only for killing many people very quickly. Who is he at war with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davel501 Posted January 30, 2023 at 02:21 AM Share Posted January 30, 2023 at 02:21 AM On 1/29/2023 at 7:25 PM, Upholder said: More pointedly, ask why does his department ISSUE them to the officers in his employ if they are weapons of war, useful only for killing many people very quickly. Who is he at war with? I was thinking something along that line with a finish move of "I mean, you're the sheriff. You could have updated the policy with a simple email at any time and they'd be gone already." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumak_from_arfcom Posted January 30, 2023 at 02:39 AM Share Posted January 30, 2023 at 02:39 AM On 1/29/2023 at 6:15 PM, mikew said: Do you have a cite? Chicago affiliates ABC, NBC, CBS and I believe WGN reported it on their nightly news. There was a long statement that was released but I don't see it on the LCSO website. I also believe there was a short statement on twitter? Or maybe facebook. https://www.1023xlc.com/lake-county-sheriff-says-he-supports-will-support-new-assault-weapons-ban-in-illinois/ There is a DailyKaren article on it behind a paywall.. https://www.dailyherald.com/news/20230111/northern-illinois-sheriffs-announce-they-wont-enforce-firearms-ban Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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