Felixd Posted January 17, 2023 at 09:01 PM Share Posted January 17, 2023 at 09:01 PM Does anyone know anything about this new proposal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dukemason Posted January 17, 2023 at 09:07 PM Share Posted January 17, 2023 at 09:07 PM I was wondering the same thing. Saw a video on you tube about it earlier today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted January 17, 2023 at 09:11 PM Share Posted January 17, 2023 at 09:11 PM It proposes a prohibition of ammunition transfers by anyone who is not licensed under the Firearm Dealer License Certification Act. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchet Posted January 17, 2023 at 09:13 PM Share Posted January 17, 2023 at 09:13 PM Would ban person to person sale of ammo. Only purchase from FFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveIL Posted January 17, 2023 at 09:15 PM Share Posted January 17, 2023 at 09:15 PM I bet all those people that make it at home or business as a non ffl, will totally stop making it, and selling it for cash. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Q Public Posted January 17, 2023 at 09:18 PM Share Posted January 17, 2023 at 09:18 PM (edited) @Dave You can't manufacture and sell legally without an FFL even now. Edited January 17, 2023 at 09:19 PM by John Q Public Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdDinIL Posted January 17, 2023 at 09:20 PM Share Posted January 17, 2023 at 09:20 PM Excuse #87 to buy it cheap and stack it deep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pies72618 Posted January 17, 2023 at 09:21 PM Share Posted January 17, 2023 at 09:21 PM You don't need an FFL to sell now. This would impact a lot of sporting clubs (sporting clays/skeet/trap/5 stand) and hunt clubs. A lot don't have FFLs as they don't buy/sell guns. But they do sell a ton of ammo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davel501 Posted January 17, 2023 at 09:22 PM Share Posted January 17, 2023 at 09:22 PM Seems it would prohibit purchasing online too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davel501 Posted January 17, 2023 at 09:23 PM Share Posted January 17, 2023 at 09:23 PM On 1/17/2023 at 3:11 PM, mauserme said: It proposes a prohibition of ammunition transfers by anyone who is not licensed under the Firearm Dealer License Certification Act. Seems it would prohibit online purchase then too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felixd Posted January 17, 2023 at 09:34 PM Author Share Posted January 17, 2023 at 09:34 PM This reads that you could not give ammo to a friend or as a gift to a relative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt B Posted January 17, 2023 at 09:39 PM Share Posted January 17, 2023 at 09:39 PM Yeah I’m seeing a lot of buzz on social media about this bill. Illinois gun owners obviously feeling jumpy after what was just rammed through last week. Normally I’d say this is an absurd proposal that wouldn’t pass as it’s purely redundant in a state with the FOID card but I guess the general assembly is committed to beating up gun owners in the state and this is another way to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted January 17, 2023 at 09:41 PM Share Posted January 17, 2023 at 09:41 PM On 1/17/2023 at 3:34 PM, Felixd said: This reads that you could not give ammo to a friend or as a gift to a relative. I've just given it a quick reading. Based on that, it would be impossible to introduce new shooters to the sport since you can't give them ammunition, and they can't buy any (assuming they have no FOID card). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yurimodin Posted January 17, 2023 at 09:54 PM Share Posted January 17, 2023 at 09:54 PM The answer is text, history, and tradition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mousegun6 Posted January 17, 2023 at 09:57 PM Share Posted January 17, 2023 at 09:57 PM On 1/17/2023 at 3:11 PM, mauserme said: It proposes a prohibition of ammunition transfers by anyone who is not licensed under the Firearm Dealer License Certification Act. So if they can put all the FFLs out of business there will be nowhere to buy ammo. Seems like they have it all planned out. Buy ammo now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davel501 Posted January 17, 2023 at 10:09 PM Share Posted January 17, 2023 at 10:09 PM On 1/17/2023 at 3:41 PM, mauserme said: I've just given it a quick reading. Based on that, it would be impossible to introduce new shooters to the sport since you can't give them ammunition, and they can't buy any (assuming they have no FOID card). Hoping we get a few good court rulings here so we can all go to these hearings and point and laugh at the sponsor for suggesting something so idiotic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Q Public Posted January 17, 2023 at 11:39 PM Share Posted January 17, 2023 at 11:39 PM (edited) On 1/17/2023 at 3:21 PM, Pies72618 said: You don't need an FFL to sell now. This would impact a lot of sporting clubs (sporting clays/skeet/trap/5 stand) and hunt clubs. A lot don't have FFLs as they don't buy/sell guns. But they do sell a ton of ammo. I didn't say you needed one to sell now... Please reread. And, or, and must, have legal implications. You jumped in with legal to sell, but that's not what I said. JQ Edited January 17, 2023 at 11:42 PM by John Q Public Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pies72618 Posted January 18, 2023 at 12:35 AM Share Posted January 18, 2023 at 12:35 AM On 1/17/2023 at 5:39 PM, John Q Public said: I didn't say you needed one to sell now... Please reread. And, or, and must, have legal implications. You jumped in with legal to sell, but that's not what I said. JQ I stand corrected. Quickly misread. And agree the various terms can have major implications. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2A4Cook Posted January 18, 2023 at 01:45 AM Share Posted January 18, 2023 at 01:45 AM Kick a Dem in the groin. For the children! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoYouFeelLucky Posted January 18, 2023 at 02:35 AM Share Posted January 18, 2023 at 02:35 AM Hmm, I wonder if a taco and ammunition stand just over the IL border in IA or MO would go over well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumak_from_arfcom Posted January 18, 2023 at 05:40 AM Share Posted January 18, 2023 at 05:40 AM It makes the FOID pretty much completely redundant then. Private transfers will have to go through an FFL. Ammo through an FFL. Purchases through an FFL. No reason or purpose for the FOID if this were to become law. The FOID would clearly become redundant law that only serves as an infringement hurdle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
357 Posted January 18, 2023 at 09:19 AM Share Posted January 18, 2023 at 09:19 AM On 1/17/2023 at 3:20 PM, EdDinIL said: Excuse #87 to buy it cheap and stack it deep. Looks like another Bloomberg copy paste bill from New York, expect more. Excuse #87 to leave Ill-inois. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagSlap Posted January 18, 2023 at 12:08 PM Share Posted January 18, 2023 at 12:08 PM Wow...never woulda thunk it! Dupage?! https://www.nctv17.org/news/dupage-county-sheriff-joins-list-of-those-refusing-to-enforce-assault-weapons-ban/ DuPage County Sheriff James Mendrick has joined a growing list of sheriffs across the state that say they will not fully enforce the newly passed assault weapons ban signed by Governor J.B. Pritzker on Tuesday. Mendrick says assault weapons ban violates 2nd Amendment In a press release issued today, Mendrick spoke about the passage of House Bill 5471, saying: “The right to keep and bear arms for defense of life, liberty and property is regarded as an inalienable right by the people. I, among many others, believe that HB 5471 is a clear violation of the 2nd Amendment to the US Constitution. Therefore, as the custodian of the jail and chief law enforcement official for DuPage County, that neither myself nor my office will be checking to ensure that lawful gun owners register their weapons with the State, nor will we be arresting or housing law-abiding individuals that have been arrested solely with non-compliance of this Act.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illinois_buckeye Posted January 19, 2023 at 08:57 PM Share Posted January 19, 2023 at 08:57 PM Regarding ammo, if you buy online, could you not ship it to your FFL? Although they've lately had ammo anyway. Might be time to stock up again before they figure out more ways to try to not allow you to buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt_Destro Posted January 19, 2023 at 10:27 PM Share Posted January 19, 2023 at 10:27 PM This has been a pretty expensive month. Gonna have to stock up on that 458 Socom before ammo sellers decide IL isn't worth the trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
357 Posted January 20, 2023 at 09:18 PM Share Posted January 20, 2023 at 09:18 PM On 1/19/2023 at 2:57 PM, illinois_buckeye said: Regarding ammo, if you buy online, could you not ship it to your FFL? Although they've lately had ammo anyway. Might be time to stock up again before they figure out more ways to try to not allow you to buy. Much more expensive at the FFL and that's why people buy in bulk online. The anti freedom conspirators want to make it cost prohibitive for regular people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davel501 Posted January 20, 2023 at 09:51 PM Share Posted January 20, 2023 at 09:51 PM Try getting something like this from your lgs and having to listen to the old guy at the counter offer his opinions on everything from your ammo to having a dot to just having a Springfield xd mod 2 like he does. No thanks. https://stand1armory.com/product/9mm147gr-pchubbies/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilphil Posted January 20, 2023 at 10:25 PM Share Posted January 20, 2023 at 10:25 PM Of course my go to ammo dealer out of state just retired and closed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illinois_buckeye Posted January 21, 2023 at 01:59 AM Share Posted January 21, 2023 at 01:59 AM Been having good luck at rural king. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikew Posted January 21, 2023 at 06:47 AM Share Posted January 21, 2023 at 06:47 AM well, she a friend of the criminal. Here's her HB1053, Repeal of the Habitual Criminal Statute. https://ilga.gov/legislation/BillStatus.asp?DocTypeID=HB&DocNum=1053&GAID=17&SessionID=112&LegID=142971 Synopsis As Introduced Amends the Criminal Code of 2012. Repeals the armed habitual criminal statute. Amends the Unified Code of Corrections. Repeals the general recidivism and habitual criminal provisions of the Code. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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