SiliconSorcerer Posted February 17, 2023 at 08:45 PM Share Posted February 17, 2023 at 08:45 PM On 2/17/2023 at 2:32 PM, Upholder said: These are just bills that have been filed and that Illinois Carry is tracking in three basic categories of support/neutral/oppose. You can certainly call your representatives about them, but in general, 90% of these will sit in the Rules committee and go nowhere. We would only get an opportunity to file witness slips if they go to an actual committee and have a hearing. None of these are at that point in the process yet. I hope so, it'll be a cold day in ... when I give up my bullet proof coats and vest. It does say knowingly, maybe I could just forget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted February 17, 2023 at 09:11 PM Author Share Posted February 17, 2023 at 09:11 PM I'll add these to the oppose list later today: HB3771 IDPH Safe Gun Storage Synopsis As Introduced Amends the Department of Public Health Powers and Duties Law of the Civil Administrative Code of Illinois. Provides that the Department of Public Health shall ensure that any physician licensed to practice medicine in all its branches or health care provider who sees or treats children 6 years of age or younger shall assess those children for their access to unsecured firearms when those children reside in a home that has firearms. Provides that children residing in a home that does not contain firearms shall be evaluated for risk by the Childhood Firearm Access Risk Questionnaire developed by the Department and assessed if indicated. Provides that children shall be evaluated in accordance with rules adopted by the Department. Makes other changes. Effective January 1, 2024. HB3791 Concealed Carry Forest Preserve Synopsis As Introduced Amends the Firearm Concealed Carry Act. Provides that nothing in the Act prohibits a forest preserve district from prohibiting persons from carrying a firearm into any botanic garden, campground, aquatic center, grounds of an aquatic center, boat launch, boating center, athletic venue, picnic grove, nature center, grounds of a nature center, pavilion, grounds of a pavilion, golf course, parking lot, driving range, adventure course, grounds of an adventure course, zipline building, grounds of a zipline, equestrian center, grounds of an equestrian center, exercise venue, grounds of an exercise venue, any Illinois nature preserve, land and water reserve, or any public or private gathering or special event conducted on property that requires the issuance of a permit. Defines "grounds". HB3795 FOID Ammunition Synopsis As Introduced Amends the Firearm Owners Identification Card Act. Provides that the sale or transfer of firearm ammunition is subject to the Firearm Transfer Inquiry Program requiring a criminal background check by the Illinois State Police of the person before the person may acquire firearm ammunition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mab22 Posted February 18, 2023 at 07:40 PM Share Posted February 18, 2023 at 07:40 PM Wouldn’t this be considered a search, asking a child 6 years or younger if there are firearms in the house? Same with if you “don’t” have firearms in the house, follow this form asking questions. Really you’re going to as a 6 month old or a 2 year old if there are firearms in r the house? Quote HB3771 IDPH Safe Gun Storage Synopsis As Introduced Amends the Department of Public Health Powers and Duties Law of the Civil Administrative Code of Illinois. Provides that the Department of Public Health shall ensure that any physician licensed to practice medicine in all its branches or health care provider who sees or treats children 6 years of age or younger shall assess those children for their access to unsecured firearms when those children reside in a home that has firearms. Provides that children residing in a home that does not contain firearms shall be evaluated for risk by the Childhood Firearm Access Risk Questionnaire developed by the Department and assessed if indicated. Provides that children shall be evaluated in accordance with rules adopted by the Department. Makes other changes. Effective January 1, 2024. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted February 18, 2023 at 08:08 PM Author Share Posted February 18, 2023 at 08:08 PM (edited) And the last of yesterday's offerings: Support HB3836 Crim Cd – Confiscated Weapons Synopsis As Introduced Amends the Criminal Code of 2012. Provides that after the disposition of a criminal case or in any criminal case where a final judgment in the case was not entered due to the death of the defendant, and when a confiscated weapon is no longer needed for evidentiary purposes, and when in due course no legitimate claim has been made for the weapon, a weapon transferred to a law enforcement agency may be sold by the law enforcement agency at public auction under the Law Enforcement Disposition of Property Act. Amends the Protective Orders Article of the Code of Criminal Procedure of 1963 and the Illinois Domestic Violence Act of 1986. Provides that, upon the expiration of the period of safekeeping of a firearm of a respondent against whom an order of protection was issued, if the firearms or Firearm Owner's Identification Card cannot be returned to respondent because the respondent cannot be located, fails to respond to requests to retrieve the firearms, or is not lawfully eligible to possess a firearm, upon petition from the local law enforcement agency, the court may order the local law enforcement agency to sell the firearm at public auction under the provisions of the Law Enforcement Disposition of Property Act. Amends the Law Enforcement Disposition of Property Act. Provides that weapons that have been confiscated as a result of having been abandoned or illegally possessed may be sold at public auction under the Act. HB3840 Second Amendment Privacy Synopsis As Introduced Creates the Second Amendment Privacy Act. Provides that a financial institution is prohibited from disclosing a customer's protected financial information when purchasing a firearm or ammunition unless specified conditions apply. Provides that a financial institution may disclose a customer's protected financial information if the customer provides the financial institution with written authorization for the disclosure. Provides that if a subpoena issued by a government entity requires disclosure of a customer's protected financial information, a financial institution may only disclose the information if the subpoena meets specified requirements. Provides that a financial institution may not use a firearms code to engage in discriminatory conduct. Provides that a customer may bring a civil action for damages against any financial institution or government entity that causes the customer's protected financial information to be disclosed in violation of the Act. Oppose HB3884 Concealed Carry Fingerprints Synopsis As Introduced Amends the Firearm Concealed Carry Act. Deletes provision that the Illinois State Police may accept an application for a concealed carry license submitted without a set of fingerprints. HB3885 Assault Weapon Buyback Synopsis As Introduced Amends the Reimagine Public Safety Act. Provides that subject to appropriation, the Office of Firearm Violence Prevention shall create an assault weapon and large capacity ammunition feeding device buyback program. Provides that subject to appropriation, the Office of Firearm Violence Prevention shall purchase operable assault weapons and large capacity ammunition feeding devices from the owners of those weapons and devices who wish to sell them to the State. Provides that permanently inoperable assault weapons or large capacity ammunition feeding devices are ineligible for the buyback program. Provides that the buyback program shall permit the owners of firearms that are not assault weapons to participate in the buyback program. Provides that firearms and large capacity ammunition feeding devices purchased at the buyback program shall be delivered to the Illinois State Police who may: (1) destroy the firearms and devices; (2) use them for training or other Illinois State Police purposes; or (3) transfer them to municipal and county law enforcement agencies for their use. Provides that the Department of Human Services shall adopt rules to implement the program. HB3891 Crim Cd – Handgun Ammo – Serialize Synopsis As Introduced Amends the Criminal Code of 2012. Provides that beginning January 1, 2024, all handgun ammunition that is manufactured, imported into the State for sale or personal use, kept for sale, offered or exposed for sale, sold, given, lent, or possessed shall be serialized. Provides that beginning January 1, 2024, any person who manufactures, causes to be manufactured, imports into the State for sale or personal use, keeps for sale, offers or exposes for sale, or who gives or lends any handgun ammunition that is not serialized is guilty of a Class A misdemeanor. Provides that beginning January 1, 2024, any person who possesses in any public place any handgun ammunition that is not serialized is guilty of a Class C misdemeanor. Provides exceptions. Provides that beginning January 1, 2024, the Illinois State Police shall maintain a centralized registry of all reports of handgun ammunition transactions reported to the Illinois State Police in a manner prescribed by the Illinois State Police. Provides that information in the registry, upon proper application for that information, shall be furnished to peace officers and authorized employees of the Illinois State Police or to the person listed in the registry as the owner of the particular handgun ammunition. Provides that the Illinois State Police shall adopt rules relating to the assessment and collection of end-user fees in an amount not to exceed $0.005 per round of handgun ammunition or per bullet, in which the accumulated fee amount may not exceed the cost to pay for the infrastructure, implementation, operational, enforcement, and future development costs of these provisions. Effective January 1, 2024, except some provisions effective immediately. HB3967 Order Protect – Gun Restrictions Synopsis As Introduced Amends the Domestic Violence Act of 1986. In cases in which a petitioner seeks a prohibition on firearm possession, removes a requirement that the respondent receive actual notice of and an opportunity to participate in a hearing. Provides that an order of protection shall include a remedy that prohibits a respondent from possessing any firearms during the duration of the order of protection for a minimum of 2 years, whichever is greater (instead of just for the duration of the order of protection). Provides that any Firearm Owner's Identification Card in the possession of the respondent shall be suspended and turned over to a law enforcement agency of the court's choosing (rather than a local law enforcement agency). Makes corresponding changes. Neutral HB3954 $ICJIA – Violence Prevention Synopsis As Introduced Appropriates $500,000 from the General Revenue Fund to the Illinois Criminal Justice Information Authority to create a grant program for community groups and organizations working with youth and young adults for violence prevention activities. Effective July 1, 202 3 . Edited February 26, 2023 at 09:49 PM by mauserme Corrected transposed numbers in HB3967 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bear226 Posted February 18, 2023 at 08:36 PM Share Posted February 18, 2023 at 08:36 PM HB3891 Crim Cd – Handgun Ammo – Serialize Synopsis As Introduced Amends the Criminal Code of 2012. Provides that beginning January 1, 2024, all handgun ammunition that is manufactured, imported into the State for sale or personal use, kept for sale, offered or exposed for sale, sold, given, lent, or possessed shall be serialized. Provides that beginning January 1, 2024, any person who manufactures, causes to be manufactured, imports into the State for sale or personal use, keeps for sale, offers or exposes for sale, or who gives or lends any handgun ammunition that is not serialized is guilty of a Class A misdemeanor. Provides that beginning January 1, 2024, any person who possesses in any public place any handgun ammunition that is not serialized is guilty of a Class C misdemeanor. Provides exceptions. Provides that beginning January 1, 2024, the Illinois State Police shall maintain a centralized registry of all reports of handgun ammunition transactions reported to the Illinois State Police in a manner prescribed by the Illinois State Police. Provides that information in the registry, upon proper application for that information, shall be furnished to peace officers and authorized employees of the Illinois State Police or to the person listed in the registry as the owner of the particular handgun ammunition. Provides that the Illinois State Police shall adopt rules relating to the assessment and collection of end-user fees in an amount not to exceed $0.005 per round of handgun ammunition or per bullet, in which the accumulated fee amount may not exceed the cost to pay for the infrastructure, implementation, operational, enforcement, and future development costs of these provisions. Effective January 1, 2024, except some provisions effective immediately. So no handgun ammo after 1/1/2024? Who will be providing this service for ammo? Now they want to let criminals out and take our ammo too. What a bunch of nut jobs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTriple Posted February 18, 2023 at 08:56 PM Share Posted February 18, 2023 at 08:56 PM A lot of this stuff feels like a legislative temper tantrum or an exercise in throwing stuff at the wall/seeing what sticks. And not just here but in other states, as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mab22 Posted February 18, 2023 at 09:53 PM Share Posted February 18, 2023 at 09:53 PM On 2/18/2023 at 2:56 PM, MrTriple said: A lot of this stuff feels like a legislative temper tantrum or an exercise in throwing stuff at the wall/seeing what sticks. And not just here but in other states, as well. Extinction burst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveman2021 Posted February 19, 2023 at 01:12 PM Share Posted February 19, 2023 at 01:12 PM HB3389 Crim Cd – No Justifiable Force Synopsis As Introduced Amends the Criminal Code of 2012. Provides that a person is not justified in the use of force against another if the person is a streetgang member or gang member and is in possession of a firearm in violation of the Deadly Weapons Article of the Code, the Firearm Owners Identification Card Act, or the Firearm Concealed Carry Act. Provides that a person is not justified in the use of force against another if the person is a convicted felon. Defines "streetgang member" and "gang member". I can almost read this as a gangbanger is a protected class and is allowed to rob and shoot you without penalties... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted February 19, 2023 at 01:40 PM Author Share Posted February 19, 2023 at 01:40 PM I read it to take from gang members and felons the right of self defense. I understand what I think they're trying to do, but telling anyone that their life is so worthless they have no right to defend it is wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikew Posted February 19, 2023 at 04:03 PM Share Posted February 19, 2023 at 04:03 PM On 2/17/2023 at 2:00 PM, mauserme said: Under Review HB3238 Crim Cd – Body Armor Synopsis As Introduced Amends the Criminal Code of 2012. Provides that, with certain exceptions, it is unlawful for any person within the State to knowingly manufacture, deliver, sell, import, or purchase or cause to be manufactured, delivered, sold, imported, or purchased by another, an armor plate, body armor, or military helmet. Provides that, with certain exceptions, beginning January 1, 2024, it is unlawful for any person within this State to knowingly possess an armor plate, body armor, or military helmet. Provides that this provision does not apply to a person's possession of an armor plate, body armor, or military helmet if the person lawfully possessed that armor plate, body armor, or military helmet prohibited by this provision, if the person has provided in an endorsement affidavit, within 6 months after the effective date of the amendatory Act, under oath or affirmation and in the form and manner prescribed by the Illinois State Police: (1) an affirmation that the affiant: (i) possessed an armor plate, body armor, or military helmet before the effective date of the amendatory Act; or (ii) inherited the armor plate, body armor, or military helmet from a person with an endorsement or from a person authorized to possess the armor plate, body armor, or military helmet possessed by the affiant prior to the effective date of the amendatory Act. Provides exemptions. Provides that a violation of these provisions is a Class A misdemeanor for a first offense and a Class 4 felony for a second or subsequent offense. I think we must oppose, Defensive products, really, a felony? How about the bulletproof sneeze guards at some of the finer dining establishments in Cook Co?? And no exception for children's backpacks as they walk the Safe Route? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted February 19, 2023 at 04:11 PM Share Posted February 19, 2023 at 04:11 PM On 2/19/2023 at 10:03 AM, mikew said: I think we must oppose, Defensive products, really, a felony? How about the bulletproof sneeze guards at some of the finer dining establishments in Cook Co?? And no exception for children's backpacks as they walk the Safe Route? I agree Mike. If you listen to Mark Smith of Four Boxes Diner, who is a constitutional lawyer, he has said that Body Armor is protected under the Second Amendment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted February 19, 2023 at 05:41 PM Author Share Posted February 19, 2023 at 05:41 PM (edited) I am personally opposed to it, too. The reason it's under review is because it isn't clear how close that is to our core mission - protecting/advancing the right to keep and bear. From that perspective it could almost be in the neutral column, but that doesn't seem appropriate at all. It's one of those bills that just doesn't fit well in a 4 category system. Edited February 20, 2023 at 12:42 AM by mauserme Spelling/Grammar (corrected "don't " to "doesn't") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiliconSorcerer Posted February 19, 2023 at 08:44 PM Share Posted February 19, 2023 at 08:44 PM Next it'll be banning farts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euler Posted February 19, 2023 at 09:12 PM Share Posted February 19, 2023 at 09:12 PM On 2/19/2023 at 8:40 AM, mauserme said: I read it to take from gang members and felons the right of self defense. I understand what I think they're trying to do, but telling anyone that their life is so worthless they have no right to defend it is wrong. Murder of a felon is still murder. The only time anyone loses the right to self-defense is when they're the attacker and only for the duration of the attack. Even if they've been convicted in the past, the right to their life is not one of the civil liberties that the courts take away. On 2/19/2023 at 12:41 PM, mauserme said: I am personally opposed to it, too. The reason it's under review is because it isn't clear how close that is to our core mission - protecting/advancing the right to keep and bear. From that perspective it could almost be in the neutral column, but that doesn't seem appropriate at all. It's one of those bills that just don't fit well in a 4 category system. Arms = weapons and armor. It's still a 2A issue. I suppose it's a question of organizational priority of weapons over armor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted February 19, 2023 at 09:52 PM Author Share Posted February 19, 2023 at 09:52 PM On 2/19/2023 at 2:44 PM, SiliconSorcerer said: Next it'll be banning farts. Only if they add SBDs to the NFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveman2021 Posted February 20, 2023 at 12:28 AM Share Posted February 20, 2023 at 12:28 AM On 2/19/2023 at 11:41 AM, mauserme said: I am personally opposed to it, too. The reason it's under review is because it isn't clear how close that is to our core mission - protecting/advancing the right to keep and bear. From that perspective it could almost be in the neutral column, but that doesn't seem appropriate at all. It's one of those bills that just don't fit well in a 4 category system. so your average shop keeper or gas station attendant can't be protected trying to provide for himself or his family if he can't carry himself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTHunter Posted February 20, 2023 at 05:00 AM Share Posted February 20, 2023 at 05:00 AM On 2/19/2023 at 2:44 PM, SiliconSorcerer said: Next it'll be banning farts. Those can be rather "explosive". It may require intervention by BATFE. 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrsavoie Posted February 21, 2023 at 04:22 PM Share Posted February 21, 2023 at 04:22 PM On 2/19/2023 at 7:40 AM, mauserme said: I read it to take from gang members and felons the right of self defense. I understand what I think they're trying to do, but telling anyone that their life is so worthless they have no right to defend it is wrong. And who's to say who they will define as a gang or gang member. We could be labeled a gang and gang members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted February 24, 2023 at 08:06 PM Author Share Posted February 24, 2023 at 08:06 PM I added HB3992 to our neutral list today: HB3992 Police & Fire Relations Synopsis As Introduced Amends the Police and Community Relations Improvement Act. Provides that a law enforcement agency shall report all shootings connected with the subject of an incident report when the shooting resulted in any property damage or bodily injury. Each incident report that reports a shooting shall, at a minimum, state whether a firearm has been identified and if a magazine, round of ammunition, expended bullet, or shell casing was found at the scene of the crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilguy Posted February 25, 2023 at 02:28 PM Share Posted February 25, 2023 at 02:28 PM On 2/19/2023 at 6:28 PM, Caveman2021 said: It's one of those bills that just don't fit well in a 4 category system. 4 category system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euler Posted February 25, 2023 at 09:41 PM Share Posted February 25, 2023 at 09:41 PM On 2/19/2023 at 12:41 PM, mauserme said: ... It's one of those bills that just doesn't fit well in a 4 category system. On 2/25/2023 at 9:28 AM, lilguy said: 4 category system? Probably something like "support/oppose/neutral/not-tracked." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted February 25, 2023 at 09:43 PM Author Share Posted February 25, 2023 at 09:43 PM On 2/25/2023 at 3:41 PM, Euler said: Probably something like "support/oppose/neutral/not-tracked." "support/oppose/neutral/not-tracked under review." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upholder Posted February 26, 2023 at 05:29 PM Share Posted February 26, 2023 at 05:29 PM On 2/18/2023 at 2:08 PM, mauserme said: HB3697 Order Protect – Gun Restrictions @mauserme a post on page 3 of this thread has a typo, it links to the correct bill HB3967 but is labeled HB3697 in the text. Here's a discussion of how evil this bill is from Washington Gun Law: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilguy Posted February 26, 2023 at 08:20 PM Share Posted February 26, 2023 at 08:20 PM On 2/25/2023 at 3:43 PM, mauserme said: "support/oppose/neutral/not-tracked under review." Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilguy Posted February 26, 2023 at 08:37 PM Share Posted February 26, 2023 at 08:37 PM On 2/26/2023 at 11:29 AM, Upholder said: @mauserme a post on page 3 of this thread has a typo, it links to the correct bill HB3967 but is labeled HB3697 in the text. Here's a discussion of how evil this bill is from Washington Gun Law: So, does Islam not support western style due process? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euler Posted February 26, 2023 at 09:20 PM Share Posted February 26, 2023 at 09:20 PM On 2/26/2023 at 3:37 PM, lilguy said: So, does Islam not support western style due process? I highly doubt Syed based her bill on sharia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted February 26, 2023 at 09:50 PM Author Share Posted February 26, 2023 at 09:50 PM On 2/26/2023 at 11:29 AM, Upholder said: ... a post on page 3 of this thread has a typo, it links to the correct bill HB3967 but is labeled HB3697 in the text. Thanks. It's a wonder I type any of them right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted February 27, 2023 at 01:11 PM Share Posted February 27, 2023 at 01:11 PM On 2/17/2023 at 3:11 PM, mauserme said: I'll add these to the oppose list later today: HB3771 IDPH Safe Gun Storage Synopsis As Introduced Amends the Department of Public Health Powers and Duties Law of the Civil Administrative Code of Illinois. Provides that the Department of Public Health shall ensure that any physician licensed to practice medicine in all its branches or health care provider who sees or treats children 6 years of age or younger shall assess those children for their access to unsecured firearms when those children reside in a home that has firearms. Provides that children residing in a home that does not contain firearms shall be evaluated for risk by the Childhood Firearm Access Risk Questionnaire developed by the Department and assessed if indicated. Provides that children shall be evaluated in accordance with rules adopted by the Department. Makes other changes. Effective January 1, 2024. HB3791 Concealed Carry Forest Preserve Synopsis As Introduced Amends the Firearm Concealed Carry Act. Provides that nothing in the Act prohibits a forest preserve district from prohibiting persons from carrying a firearm into any botanic garden, campground, aquatic center, grounds of an aquatic center, boat launch, boating center, athletic venue, picnic grove, nature center, grounds of a nature center, pavilion, grounds of a pavilion, golf course, parking lot, driving range, adventure course, grounds of an adventure course, zipline building, grounds of a zipline, equestrian center, grounds of an equestrian center, exercise venue, grounds of an exercise venue, any Illinois nature preserve, land and water reserve, or any public or private gathering or special event conducted on property that requires the issuance of a permit. Defines "grounds". HB3795 FOID Ammunition Synopsis As Introduced Amends the Firearm Owners Identification Card Act. Provides that the sale or transfer of firearm ammunition is subject to the Firearm Transfer Inquiry Program requiring a criminal background check by the Illinois State Police of the person before the person may acquire firearm ammunition. This bill is absolutely insane. This is giving providers an easy door opening in order to red flag gun owning parents or have DCFS take kids away. Notice too how they have to basically profile pregnant women and eval them too? I know she didn’t write the bill and her Everytown people did, but Maura H is reckless for even introducing this draconian pile pile of cra*p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted February 28, 2023 at 12:17 AM Share Posted February 28, 2023 at 12:17 AM Are we supporting SB1693. It allows for the use of suppressors. Considering they are considered arms I would think this bill would be in the support category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted February 28, 2023 at 12:41 AM Author Share Posted February 28, 2023 at 12:41 AM We're neutral on SB1693 as it lacks preemption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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