speedbump Posted January 12, 2023 at 02:42 PM Share Posted January 12, 2023 at 02:42 PM Meet the Illinois Law Enforcement Training and Standards Board, who certify and DE-certify police officers in Illinois: https://www.ptb.illinois.gov/about/board-members/ As you can see, with few exceptions their public statements and positions have been rabidly anti-2a, and anti-constitutional. Look for Gov Pritzger to leverage his influence over these folks in the coming weeks and months to attack his political opponents who are simply abiding by their oaths of office - which he himself is clearly incapable of doing. Mission: https://www.ptb.illinois.gov/about/agency-information/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odinson Posted January 12, 2023 at 02:48 PM Share Posted January 12, 2023 at 02:48 PM And why so willing to fire them? Pritzker threatens to fire police for not enforcing Illinois gun ban (mystateline.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly B. Posted January 12, 2023 at 02:49 PM Share Posted January 12, 2023 at 02:49 PM Reminds me of how he tried to decertify schools that didn't follow his covid edicts. That didn't go so well for him either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybermgk Posted January 12, 2023 at 02:50 PM Share Posted January 12, 2023 at 02:50 PM On 1/12/2023 at 8:48 AM, Odinson said: And why so willing to fire them? Pritzker threatens to fire police for not enforcing Illinois gun ban (mystateline.com) Too bad he can't fire any but State LEOs. Granted, he can 'decertify' them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted January 12, 2023 at 03:12 PM Share Posted January 12, 2023 at 03:12 PM (edited) War it is if they go this route. Perhaps then the sheriffs can go this route too (to those viewing, county sheriffs in IL can deputize anyone they want to “keep the peace”. Keeping the peace also includes protecting against illegal/unconstitutional laws and orders, so be careful what you wish for): Thanks for the thread, Speedbump Edited January 12, 2023 at 03:13 PM by steveTA84 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mab22 Posted January 12, 2023 at 03:23 PM Share Posted January 12, 2023 at 03:23 PM On 1/12/2023 at 8:50 AM, cybermgk said: Too bad he can't fire any but State LEOs. Granted, he can 'decertify' them. Decertify Individual LEO or whole departments? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFigmentOfYourImagination Posted January 12, 2023 at 04:12 PM Share Posted January 12, 2023 at 04:12 PM Pritzker needs to be tested for drugs or insanity. He must be high or crazy if he thinks the threats will magically get us to enforce something so egregious and unconstitutional. The IL FOP is going to have fun with his newest bit of pretentious banter. I'll be waiting for my pink slip. All of my peers are on the same page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybermgk Posted January 12, 2023 at 04:24 PM Share Posted January 12, 2023 at 04:24 PM On 1/12/2023 at 9:23 AM, mab22 said: Decertify Individual LEO or whole departments? What he can try, or what is legal. He can't directly, but he could have the above board do it. Would it stand up in court? Likely not if fought (just imho). Decertifying a COunty sheriff wouldn't work, in this regard. ASSUMES others won't do the same. But it isn't just the LEOs in these counties, It's the County Prosecuters. I suppose he could try to disbar them, but how would that work, "So and So should be disbarred, for NOT adhering to their oath of office?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springfield shooter Posted January 12, 2023 at 04:30 PM Share Posted January 12, 2023 at 04:30 PM (edited) On 1/12/2023 at 10:24 AM, cybermgk said: What he can try, or what is legal. He can't directly, but he could have the above board do it. Would it stand up in court? Likely not if fought (just imho). Decertifying a COunty sheriff wouldn't work, in this regard. ASSUMES others won't do the same. But it isn't just the LEOs in these counties, It's the County Prosecuters. I suppose he could try to disbar them, but how would that work, "So and So should be disbarred, for NOT adhering to their oath of office?" Two words if he tries to go after States Attorneys. Ok, four words: immigration law....glass houses. Edited January 12, 2023 at 05:00 PM by springfield shooter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmyers Posted January 12, 2023 at 04:32 PM Share Posted January 12, 2023 at 04:32 PM On 1/12/2023 at 10:24 AM, cybermgk said: What he can try, or what is legal. He can't directly, but he could have the above board do it. Would it stand up in court? Likely not if fought (just imho). Decertifying a COunty sheriff wouldn't work, in this regard. ASSUMES others won't do the same. But it isn't just the LEOs in these counties, It's the County Prosecuters. I suppose he could try to disbar them, but how would that work, "So and So should be disbarred, for NOT adhering to their oath of office?" Part of Jabba the Hut's problem is he has selectively decided which laws to enforce and this is well documented. As such, they could turn right around and use his direct defiance of enforcing laws against him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djmarkla Posted January 12, 2023 at 05:17 PM Share Posted January 12, 2023 at 05:17 PM On 1/12/2023 at 10:12 AM, AFigmentOfYourImagination said: Pritzker needs to be tested for drugs or insanity. He must be high or crazy if he thinks the threats will magically get us to enforce something so egregious and unconstitutional. The IL FOP is going to have fun with his newest bit of pretentious banter. I'll be waiting for my pink slip. All of my peers are on the same page. Arrogance is his drug of choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcook619 Posted January 12, 2023 at 05:25 PM Share Posted January 12, 2023 at 05:25 PM On 1/12/2023 at 10:24 AM, cybermgk said: What he can try, or what is legal. He can't directly, but he could have the above board do it. Would it stand up in court? Likely not if fought (just imho). Decertifying a COunty sheriff wouldn't work, in this regard. ASSUMES others won't do the same. But it isn't just the LEOs in these counties, It's the County Prosecuters. I suppose he could try to disbar them, but how would that work, "So and So should be disbarred, for NOT adhering to their oath of office?" Did Desantis do this in Florida recently with a DA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G214me Posted January 12, 2023 at 05:26 PM Share Posted January 12, 2023 at 05:26 PM JB is a trust fund baby that had the way smoothed by mommy and daddy and all that money. He feels he's far better and smarter than us peasants. He dreams of being the Illinois version of Kim Jong Un. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djmarkla Posted January 12, 2023 at 05:31 PM Share Posted January 12, 2023 at 05:31 PM On 1/12/2023 at 11:26 AM, G214me said: JB is a trust fund baby that had the way smoothed by mommy and daddy and all that money. He feels he's far better and smarter than us peasants. He dreams of being the Illinois version of Kim Jong Un. He had 99% of people in the state wearing masks. I would suggest that he is most of the way there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmyers Posted January 12, 2023 at 05:34 PM Share Posted January 12, 2023 at 05:34 PM On 1/12/2023 at 11:31 AM, djmarkla said: He had 99% of people in the state wearing masks. I would suggest that he is most of the way there. I think your percentage may be a little high based on what I seen in our area. I would guess at the height of it, 70% compliance and that was early on when people wasn't sure what was gong on. It quickly dropped to a below 50%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djmarkla Posted January 12, 2023 at 05:36 PM Share Posted January 12, 2023 at 05:36 PM I am in the northwest burbs so my observation could be a bit high for the whole state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt_Destro Posted January 12, 2023 at 05:36 PM Share Posted January 12, 2023 at 05:36 PM (edited) He might need heart medication after the courts are done with this. Please have medical staff on standby JB. I wish him nothing but the best of health after all. He should also get his liver enzymes checked. High carbohydrate diets do a number on the liver and has behavioral side effects. Quote Emotions like anger, impatience, irritability and depression are common symptoms when the liver is in distress. Worse, it can affect your decision-making abilities and cause brain fog. It may even result in aggression and nasty outburst. We care about you big guy. Get the help you need! Edited January 12, 2023 at 05:38 PM by Capt_Destro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybermgk Posted January 12, 2023 at 05:39 PM Share Posted January 12, 2023 at 05:39 PM On 1/12/2023 at 11:25 AM, bcook619 said: Did Desantis do this in Florida recently with a DA? he did, but it was a State official. Not sure what any/all of those in Illinois are AND whether the Illinois Governor has the same authority as Fl does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yurimodin Posted January 12, 2023 at 05:53 PM Share Posted January 12, 2023 at 05:53 PM On 1/12/2023 at 10:12 AM, AFigmentOfYourImagination said: Pritzker needs to be tested for drugs or insanity. He must be high or crazy if he thinks the threats will magically get us to enforce something so egregious and unconstitutional. The IL FOP is going to have fun with his newest bit of pretentious banter. I'll be waiting for my pink slip. All of my peers are on the same page. THANK YOU, for doing the right thing. They always pull this crap during bad economies to pressure all the LEO's into going along with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragsbo Posted January 12, 2023 at 06:04 PM Share Posted January 12, 2023 at 06:04 PM He has gotten away with everything he has wanted to do so far why would he not think he will now???? AND the few times he has been stopped, NOTHING was done to him personally for his over reach. He needs to feel the pain for his illegal and unconstitutional acts up close and personal. I know all about qualified immunity but even that has its limits and he has gone well passed what should be covered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RANDY Posted January 12, 2023 at 07:03 PM Share Posted January 12, 2023 at 07:03 PM @ragsboThere is growing interest for overturning immunity nationwide. People are just fed up with the all out disregard for the constitution and their oath of office Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yurimodin Posted January 12, 2023 at 07:06 PM Share Posted January 12, 2023 at 07:06 PM On 1/12/2023 at 1:03 PM, RANDY said: @ragsboThere is growing interest for overturning immunity nationwide. People are just fed up with the all out disregard for the constitution and their oath of office THIS.....there NEEDS to be civil and criminal consequences for violating their oaths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RANDY Posted January 12, 2023 at 07:12 PM Share Posted January 12, 2023 at 07:12 PM On 1/12/2023 at 1:06 PM, yurimodin said: THIS.....there NEEDS to be civil and criminal consequences for violating their oaths. 10 years in club fed for conspiring to violate constitutional right under color of law, plus civil damages that mortgages all their assets including their grandchildren's trust funds would get their attention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobPistol Posted January 12, 2023 at 07:19 PM Share Posted January 12, 2023 at 07:19 PM JB is a sociopath. Smugness is par for the course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singlecoilpickup Posted January 12, 2023 at 07:21 PM Share Posted January 12, 2023 at 07:21 PM Because he has confused being a governor for being a monarch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yurimodin Posted January 12, 2023 at 07:26 PM Share Posted January 12, 2023 at 07:26 PM On 1/12/2023 at 1:21 PM, singlecoilpickup said: Because he has confused being a governor for being a monarch. Remember the old saying "There is only one way to convince a devout communist that they do not know what is best for you" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tip Posted January 12, 2023 at 08:07 PM Share Posted January 12, 2023 at 08:07 PM On 1/12/2023 at 10:32 AM, bmyers said: Part of Jabba the Hut's problem is he has selectively decided which laws to enforce and this is well documented. As such, they could turn right around and use his direct defiance of enforcing laws against him. He’s been emboldened by his repeated “state of emergency” declarations. IMO he is of the sincere belief that all he needs to do is declare something an “emergency” and he can dictate at will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
357 Posted January 12, 2023 at 08:19 PM Share Posted January 12, 2023 at 08:19 PM On 1/12/2023 at 1:12 PM, RANDY said: 10 years in club fed for conspiring to violate constitutional right under color of law, plus civil damages that mortgages all their assets including their grandchildren's trust funds would get their attention Who will put him there Biden, don't hold your breath. They're all in this together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedbump Posted January 12, 2023 at 08:32 PM Author Share Posted January 12, 2023 at 08:32 PM On 1/12/2023 at 2:07 PM, Tip said: He’s been emboldened by his repeated “state of emergency” declarations. IMO he is of the sincere belief that all he needs to do is declare something an “emergency” and he can dictate at will. "In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people." *Declaration of Independence* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangerdeepv Posted January 12, 2023 at 09:34 PM Share Posted January 12, 2023 at 09:34 PM The power is really going to this short round ego-maniac's head along with a full blown Napoleon syndrome. Did anyone forget to tell his immenseness he works for the people? Guess they don't teach that in the private and privileged schools he attended during his billions of dollars in upbringing. We are the laughingstock in most other states vice California, Michigan, Oregon and a couple others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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