mab22 Posted January 12, 2023 at 01:50 AM Share Posted January 12, 2023 at 01:50 AM There is a lot of good info in here, not for sensitive ears. Maybe it will clear up some of the OH IT'S NOT SO BAD crowd. Also, Illinois Carry is look for plaintiff's you can see the post here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djmarkla Posted January 12, 2023 at 02:11 AM Share Posted January 12, 2023 at 02:11 AM I just watched it and almost launched H2o all over the pc when he got to the follicle challenged part. 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flynn Posted January 12, 2023 at 03:31 AM Share Posted January 12, 2023 at 03:31 AM In the end this is going to allow us to set so much favorable precedent on so many things and 2nd topics, as Todd said, we will have the keys to the Kingdom when the dust settles! And I agree with the coattail riding, I know this forum is not the end all, but active membership and participation here compared to the number of FOIDs is dismal. For myself, I have been here a lot longer than this account indicates, I had an account before this that was lost in the wind and was a lurker for years before that. I really hope some people wake up and show up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackinelgin Posted January 12, 2023 at 03:43 AM Share Posted January 12, 2023 at 03:43 AM We are damn lucky we have people like Todd and Molly on our side. I just paid for a membership here because of people like them working hard for our rights. Every little bit helps. If you can,join in. Contribute anyway you can! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylok Posted January 12, 2023 at 03:52 AM Share Posted January 12, 2023 at 03:52 AM I know there's beef here between T and V but we must set all of that aside. We need everyone on this. I am so excited I can't see straight! Lord in heaven please guide gaurd and direct our SCOTUS justices Amen Justice Thomas thank you and be well, we love you sir! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt_Destro Posted January 12, 2023 at 03:55 AM Share Posted January 12, 2023 at 03:55 AM LOL Stop ******* Finding me. 💢 Loved it, couldnt of said it any better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted January 12, 2023 at 04:12 AM Share Posted January 12, 2023 at 04:12 AM Todd’s video just proved I could be very good friends with him 🤣🤣🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mab22 Posted January 12, 2023 at 04:44 AM Author Share Posted January 12, 2023 at 04:44 AM On 1/11/2023 at 9:52 PM, Drylok said: I know there's beef here between T and V but we must set all of that aside. We need everyone on this. I am so excited I can't see straight! Lord in heaven please guide gaurd and direct our SCOTUS justices Amen Justice Thomas thank you and be well, we love you sir! Amen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mab22 Posted January 12, 2023 at 04:55 AM Author Share Posted January 12, 2023 at 04:55 AM On 1/11/2023 at 9:55 PM, Capt_Destro said: LOL Stop ******* Finding me. 💢 Loved it, couldnt of said it any better. On 1/11/2023 at 10:12 PM, steveTA84 said: Todd’s video just proved I could be very good friends with him 🤣🤣🤣 I hear ya, I don't think Todd and I would do well seated together.... It would probably turn out like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longrange454 Posted January 12, 2023 at 01:59 PM Share Posted January 12, 2023 at 01:59 PM One thing that's on our side as I see it. The way the AWB was hastily thrown together there has to be many mistakes in the language. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tvandermyde Posted January 12, 2023 at 02:11 PM Share Posted January 12, 2023 at 02:11 PM To be clear, I don't have a problem with Valinda. We have had our issues in the past. We have spent considerable time going over issues this year in working together. It is a source of irritation that I'm on a moderated status here, but I still show up to help keep you all informed as I can. We do have a disagreement about the performance(s) of a lawyer and his value. Other than that, She has been more than helpful, we talk often as my typing skills are not that of a 13 year old girl texting. We are working towards a common goal of seeing this thing gutted in the Courts and a fully enumerated 2A enforce in Illinois. I maybe more offensive in my descriptions of how we should do it than the police and well mannered Valinda, but know that what separates us is less than 2% of the whole I'll do another post on where I see things going and a bit of what split exists. While Illinois Carry may not be named in a suit, they are providing valuable support for our efforts and I appreciate that and thank them for it. Without it my end of this would be much harder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countyline Posted January 12, 2023 at 02:56 PM Share Posted January 12, 2023 at 02:56 PM Are GOA and FPC engaged in this one as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agalloch07 Posted January 12, 2023 at 03:20 PM Share Posted January 12, 2023 at 03:20 PM On 1/12/2023 at 8:11 AM, Tvandermyde said: We do have a disagreement about the performance(s) of a lawyer and his value. Who do you recommend donating money to for legal funds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedbump Posted January 12, 2023 at 03:59 PM Share Posted January 12, 2023 at 03:59 PM On 1/12/2023 at 8:11 AM, Tvandermyde said: To be clear, I don't have a problem with Valinda. We have had our issues in the past. We have spent considerable time going over issues this year in working together. It is a source of irritation that I'm on a moderated status here, but I still show up to help keep you all informed as I can. We do have a disagreement about the performance(s) of a lawyer and his value. Other than that, She has been more than helpful, we talk often as my typing skills are not that of a 13 year old girl texting. We are working towards a common goal of seeing this thing gutted in the Courts and a fully enumerated 2A enforce in Illinois. I maybe more offensive in my descriptions of how we should do it than the police and well mannered Valinda, but know that what separates us is less than 2% of the whole I'll do another post on where I see things going and a bit of what split exists. While Illinois Carry may not be named in a suit, they are providing valuable support for our efforts and I appreciate that and thank them for it. Without it my end of this would be much harder. And THAT is a huge plus. We will never be as well organized or funded as the hive-minded anti-rights crowd, but we do have powerful advantages: Natural rights, truth, and the Constitution being foremost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yurimodin Posted January 12, 2023 at 06:09 PM Share Posted January 12, 2023 at 06:09 PM On 1/12/2023 at 8:11 AM, Tvandermyde said: To be clear, I don't have a problem with Valinda. We have had our issues in the past. We have spent considerable time going over issues this year in working together. It is a source of irritation that I'm on a moderated status here, but I still show up to help keep you all informed as I can. We do have a disagreement about the performance(s) of a lawyer and his value. Other than that, She has been more than helpful, we talk often as my typing skills are not that of a 13 year old girl texting. We are working towards a common goal of seeing this thing gutted in the Courts and a fully enumerated 2A enforce in Illinois. I maybe more offensive in my descriptions of how we should do it than the police and well mannered Valinda, but know that what separates us is less than 2% of the whole I'll do another post on where I see things going and a bit of what split exists. While Illinois Carry may not be named in a suit, they are providing valuable support for our efforts and I appreciate that and thank them for it. Without it my end of this would be much harder. I loved that last video Todd, please never change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylok Posted January 13, 2023 at 12:17 AM Share Posted January 13, 2023 at 12:17 AM On 1/12/2023 at 8:11 AM, Tvandermyde said: To be clear, I don't have a problem with Valinda. We have had our issues in the past. We have spent considerable time going over issues this year in working together. It is a source of irritation that I'm on a moderated status here, but I still show up to help keep you all informed as I can. We do have a disagreement about the performance(s) of a lawyer and his value. Other than that, She has been more than helpful, we talk often as my typing skills are not that of a 13 year old girl texting. We are working towards a common goal of seeing this thing gutted in the Courts and a fully enumerated 2A enforce in Illinois. I maybe more offensive in my descriptions of how we should do it than the police and well mannered Valinda, but know that what separates us is less than 2% of the whole I'll do another post on where I see things going and a bit of what split exists. While Illinois Carry may not be named in a suit, they are providing valuable support for our efforts and I appreciate that and thank them for it. Without it my end of this would be much harder. Well said sir, I was just trying to convey we're all on the same team here. Take care Scott Bowyer, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTC Hunter Posted January 13, 2023 at 05:25 AM Share Posted January 13, 2023 at 05:25 AM What happens if a person signs on as a plaintiff? Seriously asking. I was asked today and didn't know enough about it to give an answer, so I thought I would ask here. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTC Hunter Posted January 13, 2023 at 05:29 AM Share Posted January 13, 2023 at 05:29 AM (edited) On 1/12/2023 at 11:54 AM, AlphaKoncepts aka CGS said: <delete> Edited January 13, 2023 at 05:30 AM by LTC Hunter Wrong post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mab22 Posted January 13, 2023 at 05:52 AM Author Share Posted January 13, 2023 at 05:52 AM On 1/12/2023 at 11:25 PM, LTC Hunter said: What happens if a person signs on as a plaintiff? Seriously asking. I was asked today and didn't know enough about it to give an answer, so I thought I would ask here. Thanks. You may want to ask that here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTC Hunter Posted January 13, 2023 at 05:56 AM Share Posted January 13, 2023 at 05:56 AM On 1/12/2023 at 11:52 PM, mab22 said: You may want to ask that here. Thank you very much. Done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTX63 Posted January 13, 2023 at 06:47 AM Share Posted January 13, 2023 at 06:47 AM I'd love to see legal challenges expedited to higher courts the way they were regarding voter fraud during the past two elections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techgeek Posted January 13, 2023 at 10:50 AM Share Posted January 13, 2023 at 10:50 AM On 1/13/2023 at 12:47 AM, GTX63 said: I'd love to see legal challenges expedited to higher courts the way they were regarding voter fraud during the past two elections. I don't like what I am about to say. HOWEVER. With the 14th Amendment being now relevant to the keep and bare arms argument. SCOTUS needs to rule on magazine and gun bans. Can't have a guy on one side of a state line packing a dinosaur hunter while six blocks away a .22 is a weapon of war. ALL gun laws are now in the hands of SCOTUS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yurimodin Posted January 13, 2023 at 03:19 PM Share Posted January 13, 2023 at 03:19 PM On 1/13/2023 at 4:50 AM, techgeek said: I don't like what I am about to say. HOWEVER. With the 14th Amendment being now relevant to the keep and bare arms argument. SCOTUS needs to rule on magazine and gun bans. Can't have a guy on one side of a state line packing a dinosaur hunter while six blocks away a .22 is a weapon of war. ALL gun laws are now in the hands of SCOTUS. Heller + Bruen basically says its all BS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedbump Posted January 13, 2023 at 05:32 PM Share Posted January 13, 2023 at 05:32 PM On 1/13/2023 at 4:50 AM, techgeek said: I don't like what I am about to say. HOWEVER. With the 14th Amendment being now relevant to the keep and bare arms argument. SCOTUS needs to rule on magazine and gun bans. Can't have a guy on one side of a state line packing a dinosaur hunter while six blocks away a .22 is a weapon of war. ALL gun laws are now in the hands of SCOTUS. "You seem ...to consider the judges as the ultimate arbiters of all constitutional questions: a very dangerous doctrine indee[d] and one which would place us under the despotism of an Oligarchy. Our judges are as honest as other men, and not more so. They have, with others, the same passions for party, for power, and the privileges of their corps. Their maxim is ‘boni judicis est ampliare jurisdictionem,’ and their power the more dangerous as they are in office for life, and not responsible, as the other functionaries are, to the elective controul. The constitution has erected no such single tribunal knowing that, to whatever hands confided, with the corruptions of time & party it’s members would become despots." Thomas Jefferson, Letter to William Jarvis, 1820 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tvandermyde Posted January 13, 2023 at 06:22 PM Share Posted January 13, 2023 at 06:22 PM Our republic is built upon 4 boxes. and We use our First amendment right to petition government for redress of grievances. both in the legislature and the courts. I believe we will prevail and have to because the when the time comes that you can't your down to the 4th box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNG3 Posted January 13, 2023 at 08:33 PM Share Posted January 13, 2023 at 08:33 PM On 1/13/2023 at 12:22 PM, Tvandermyde said: Our republic is built upon 4 boxes. and We use our First amendment right to petition government for redress of grievances. both in the legislature and the courts. I believe we will prevail and have to because the when the time comes that you can't your down to the 4th box Thank you for what you do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeti Posted January 13, 2023 at 09:33 PM Share Posted January 13, 2023 at 09:33 PM On 1/12/2023 at 8:56 AM, countyline said: Are GOA and FPC engaged in this one as well? I don’t know what you’ve seen but, in my opinion, the GOA rarely leads in the legal front. That group has bragged about “winning” cases but it’s participation has been primarily in filing briefs. Let someone else do the heavy lifting, climb on at the end for the glory. There have been a few GOA-driven battles in recent times (bump stocks as an example) and I am hoping that things improve there now that the younger Pratt seems to be taking over the family business. It seems that any influence that group has is typically on the political front vs in the courts. In the past, I would have funneled funds to the NRA but not these days. The majority of my support dollars will go to local groups (not directly to the ISRA due to RP but rather to partners in the local battles) and maybe the SAF/FPC. SAF and FPC are built more around legal action. They’ve certainly been involved in a significant number of 2A legal cases and some significant wins. One person’s opinion… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilguy Posted January 17, 2023 at 04:41 AM Share Posted January 17, 2023 at 04:41 AM What happens to all the plus 10/15 round mags in our hands now? TV says it was a tough read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mab22 Posted January 17, 2023 at 04:53 AM Author Share Posted January 17, 2023 at 04:53 AM On 1/16/2023 at 10:41 PM, lilguy said: What happens to all the plus 10/15 round mags in our hands now? TV says it was a tough read. What mags?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flynn Posted January 17, 2023 at 04:57 AM Share Posted January 17, 2023 at 04:57 AM On 1/16/2023 at 10:41 PM, lilguy said: What happens to all the plus 10/15 round mags in our hands now? TV says it was a tough read. If the bill in not enjoined, any such magazines I might or might not have anymore will be going on vacation out of state in a secure location until the law is nuked or we vacate the state entirely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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