mauserme Posted January 9, 2023 at 03:41 AM Share Posted January 9, 2023 at 03:41 AM UPDATE(S) Senate Amendment 3 has been filed on HB5471 Replaces everything after the enacting clause. Amends the Illinois State Police Law of the Civil Administrative Code of Illinois. Provides that the Division of Criminal Investigation of the Illinois State Police shall conduct other investigations as provided by law, including, but not limited to, investigations of human trafficking, illegal drug trafficking, and illegal firearms trafficking. Provides that the Division of Criminal Investigation shall provide statewide coordination and strategy pertaining to firearm-related intelligence, firearms trafficking interdiction, and investigations. Amends the Firearm Owners Identification Card Act. Provides that a petitioner may request a plenary firearms restraining order of up to one-year, but not less than 6 months (rather than 6 months). Provides that the order may be renewed for an additional period of up to one year. Amends the Criminal Code of 2012. Provides that beginning January 1, 2024, it is unlawful for any person within the State to knowingly possess an assault weapon, assault weapon attachment, .50 caliber rifle, or .50 caliber cartridge, with exemptions, and provides penalties. Provides that it is unlawful for any person within the State to knowingly manufacture, deliver, sell, purchase, or cause to be manufactured, delivered, sold, or purchased a large capacity ammunition feeding device, with specified exemptions, and provides penalties. Contains a severability provision. Amends the Freedom of Information Act. Exempts from disclosure under the Act certain information concerning endorsements received by the Illinois State Police. Effective immediately. Senate Amendment 4 has been filed on HB5471 Makes a technical change to a cross-reference in the bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted January 9, 2023 at 03:43 AM Author Share Posted January 9, 2023 at 03:43 AM After much ado about nothing, the Senate failed yesterday to advance any version of a firearm ban. Instead, they scheduled their own version of a ban, Senate Amendment 1 on HB5471, for a subject matter hearing with an abortion bill. This is an odd combination of subjects, to say the least. We can only speculate as to the implication of this hearing. EDITED to add that Senate Amendment 2 to HB5471 was filed late last night. Please see our current Call to Action, and make sure to show your opposition this morning! The Senate is scheduled or 1:30 PM today. The House is not in. Next Days Scheduled House: 1/10/2023 Senate: 1/10/2023 Senate Calendar Senate Supplemental Calendar 1 Senate Supplemental Calendar 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted January 9, 2023 at 03:45 AM Author Share Posted January 9, 2023 at 03:45 AM Senate Calendar 1:30 PM HB5004 Noncitizen Statutory Reference Neutral House Sponsor: Ortiz, Welch, Hernandez (Elizabeth), Evans, Mah, Yingling, Carroll, Andrade, Gong-Gershowitz, Gonzalez, Mayfield, Harper, Moeller, Ramirez, Hirschauer, Mason, Ness, Smith, Davis, Slaughter, Zalewski, Delgado Senate Sponsor: Simmons, Villa Status: Senate/Third Reading Synopsis As Introduced Amends various Acts to make changes concerning references to noncitizen individuals. Effective immediately. House Floor Amendment 1 – Adopted Makes further changes concerning references to noncitizen individuals. HB5471 Ins Code – Publlic Adjusters Oppose House Sponsor: Avelar (Pending Removal: Niemerg, Hammond, McCombie) Senate Sponsor: Harmon Status: Senate/3rd Reading Synopsis As Introduced Amends the Illinois Insurance Code. In provisions concerning a contract between public adjuster and insured, provides that: a public adjuster shall ensure that the contract contains the email address of the public adjuster; a public adjuster may also provide an exact copy of the contract to the insurer's authorized representative for receiving notice of loss or damage in specified circumstances; a public adjuster may provide emergency services before a written contract with the insured has been executed; a public adjuster shall not provide services until a written contract with the insured has been executed and an exact copy of the contract has been provided to the insurer; at the option of an insured, any contract between a public adjuster and the insured shall be voidable for 5 business days after the copy of the contract has been received by the insurer, except as provided in the Fire Damage Representation Agreement Act; the insured may void the contract by notifying the public adjuster in writing by sending an email to the email address shown on the contract. been received by the insurer, except as provided in the Fire Damage Representation Agreement Act. Defines "adjusting insurance claims" and "compensation". Changes a definition of "public adjuster". Removes a definition of "adjusting a claim for loss or damage covered by an insurance contract". Repeals the Public Insurance Adjusters and Registered Firms Article of the Illinois Insurance Code. Effective immediately. Senate Amendment 1 to HB5471 – Pending Replaces everything after the enacting clause. Amends the Illinois State Police Law of the Civil Administrative Code of Illinois. Provides that the Division of Criminal Investigation of the Illinois State Police shall conduct other investigations as provided by law, including, but not limited to, investigations of human trafficking, illegal drug trafficking, and illegal firearms trafficking. Provides that the Division of Criminal Investigation shall provide statewide coordination and strategy pertaining to firearm-related intelligence, firearms trafficking interdiction, and investigations. Amends the Firearm Owners Identification Card Act. Provides that a petitioner may request a plenary firearms restraining order of up to one-year, but not less than 6 months (rather than 6 months). Provides that the order may be renewed for an additional period of up to one year. Amends the Criminal Code of 2012. Makes it unlawful for any person within the State to knowingly manufacture, deliver, sell, import, or purchase or cause to be manufactured, delivered, sold, imported, or purchased by another, an assault weapon, assault weapon attachment, .50 caliber rifle, or .50 caliber cartridge, with exemptions, and provides penalties. Makes it unlawful for any person within the State to knowingly manufacture, deliver, sell, purchase, or possess or cause to be manufactured, delivered, sold, or purchased a large capacity ammunition feeding device, with specified exemptions, and provides penalties. Contains a severability provision. Effective immediately. Senate Amendment 2 to HB5471 - Pending Replaces everything after the enacting clause. Amends the Illinois State Police Law of the Civil Administrative Code of Illinois. Provides that the Division of Criminal Investigation of the Illinois State Police shall conduct other investigations as provided by law, including, but not limited to, investigations of human trafficking, illegal drug trafficking, and illegal firearms trafficking. Provides that the Division of Criminal Investigation shall provide statewide coordination and strategy pertaining to firearm-related intelligence, firearms trafficking interdiction, and investigations. Amends the Firearm Owners Identification Card Act. Provides that a petitioner may request a plenary firearms restraining order of up to one-year, but not less than 6 months (rather than 6 months). Provides that the order may be renewed for an additional period of up to one year. Amends the Criminal Code of 2012. Provides that beginning January 1, 2024, it is unlawful for any person within the State to knowingly possess an assault weapon, assault weapon attachment, .50 caliber rifle, or .50 caliber cartridge, with exemptions, and provides penalties. Provides that it is unlawful for any person within the State to knowingly manufacture, deliver, sell, purchase, or cause to be manufactured, delivered, sold, or purchased a large capacity ammunition feeding device, with specified exemptions, and provides penalties. Contains a severability provision. Effective immediately. SB2226 Protect Illinois Cummunities Act Oppose Senate Sponsor: Turner (Doris), Hunter House Sponsor: Welch, Morgan, Hirschauer, Ford, Delgado, Andrade, Costa Howard, Croke, Willis, Meyers-Martin, Mayfield, Ammons, Mason, Yingling, Moeller, Gabel, Williams (Ann), Blair-Sherlock, Stoneback. Didech, Yang Rohr, Mussman, Harris, Kelly, Carroll, Moylan, Rita Status: Senate Concurrence on HA3 House Amendment 2 to SB2226 – Tabled Replaces everything after the enacting clause. Amends the Illinois State Police Law of the Civil Administrative Code of Illinois. Provides that the Division of Criminal Investigation of the Illinois State Police shall conduct other investigations as provided by law, including, but not limited to, investigations of human trafficking, illegal drug trafficking, and illegal firearms trafficking. Provides that the Division of Criminal Investigation shall provide statewide coordination and strategy pertaining to firearm-related intelligence, firearms trafficking interdiction, and investigations. Amends the Firearm Owners Identification Card Act. Provides that a petitioner may request a plenary firearms restraining order of up to one-year, but not less than 6 months (rather than 6 months). Provides that the order may be renewed for an additional period of up to one year. Amends the Criminal Code of 2012. Makes it unlawful to manufacture, deliver, sell, or purchase or cause to be manufactured, delivered, sold, or purchased by another, an assault weapon, assault weapon attachment, .50 caliber rifle, or .50 caliber cartridge. Makes it unlawful for any person to knowingly possess an assault weapon, .50 caliber rifle, or .50 caliber cartridge 300 days after the effective date of the amendatory Act, with exemptions, and provides penalties. Prohibits the manufacture, delivery, sale, purchase, or possession of large capacity ammunition feeding devices, with specified exemptions, and provides penalties. Makes other changes. Amends the Illinois Procurement Code to make conforming changes. Contains a severability provision. Effective immediately. House Amendment 3 to SB2226 – Pending Replaces everything after the enacting clause. Amends the Illinois State Police Law of the Civil Administrative Code of Illinois. Provides that the Division of Criminal Investigation of the Illinois State Police shall conduct other investigations as provided by law, including, but not limited to, investigations of human trafficking, illegal drug trafficking, and illegal firearms trafficking. Provides that the Division of Criminal Investigation shall provide statewide coordination and strategy pertaining to firearm-related intelligence, firearms trafficking interdiction, and investigations. Amends the Firearm Owners Identification Card Act. Provides that a petitioner may request a plenary firearms restraining order of up to one-year, but not less than 6 months (rather than 6 months). Provides that the order may be renewed for an additional period of up to one year. Amends the Criminal Code of 2012. Makes it unlawful to manufacture, deliver, sell, or purchase or cause to be manufactured, delivered, sold, or purchased by another, an assault weapon, assault weapon attachment, .50 caliber rifle, or .50 caliber cartridge. Makes it unlawful for any person to knowingly possess an assault weapon, .50 caliber rifle, or .50 caliber cartridge 300 days after the effective date of the amendatory Act, with exemptions, and provides penalties. Prohibits the manufacture, delivery, sale, purchase, or possession of large capacity ammunition feeding devices, with specified exemptions, and provides penalties. Makes other changes. Amends the Illinois Procurement Code to make conforming changes. Contains a severability provision. Effective immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted January 9, 2023 at 03:46 AM Author Share Posted January 9, 2023 at 03:46 AM Senate Committee(s) Senate Executive Criminal Committee - 9:00 AM Virtual Room 212 HB5471 Ins Code – Public Adjusters* Senate Amendment 1 to HB5471* * Items in bold are included in our current Call to Action Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted January 9, 2023 at 11:48 AM Author Share Posted January 9, 2023 at 11:48 AM At some point late, late last night Senate Amendment 2 to HB5471 was filed: Replaces everything after the enacting clause. Amends the Illinois State Police Law of the Civil Administrative Code of Illinois. Provides that the Division of Criminal Investigation of the Illinois State Police shall conduct other investigations as provided by law, including, but not limited to, investigations of human trafficking, illegal drug trafficking, and illegal firearms trafficking. Provides that the Division of Criminal Investigation shall provide statewide coordination and strategy pertaining to firearm-related intelligence, firearms trafficking interdiction, and investigations. Amends the Firearm Owners Identification Card Act. Provides that a petitioner may request a plenary firearms restraining order of up to one-year, but not less than 6 months (rather than 6 months). Provides that the order may be renewed for an additional period of up to one year. Amends the Criminal Code of 2012. Provides that beginning January 1, 2024, it is unlawful for any person within the State to knowingly possess an assault weapon, assault weapon attachment, .50 caliber rifle, or .50 caliber cartridge, with exemptions, and provides penalties. Provides that it is unlawful for any person within the State to knowingly manufacture, deliver, sell, purchase, or cause to be manufactured, delivered, sold, or purchased a large capacity ammunition feeding device, with specified exemptions, and provides penalties. Contains a severability provision. Effective immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol-Invictus Posted January 9, 2023 at 12:06 PM Share Posted January 9, 2023 at 12:06 PM Since all of these provisions have been found unconstitutional and these legislators have declared open sedition and insurrection through violation of rights under color of law against the court and country when should we expect their arrest and detainment by the state attorney general? Call your legislator and demand action so this clear and present danger against our constitutional republic and be dealt with legally and justly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richp Posted January 9, 2023 at 12:38 PM Share Posted January 9, 2023 at 12:38 PM Dream on... The way the decks are stacked here politically and in the courts, there's not even a faint hope any of them will be called to task for their efforts to subvert and destroy our rights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilguy Posted January 9, 2023 at 01:17 PM Share Posted January 9, 2023 at 01:17 PM (edited) So, where are we now ? Edited January 9, 2023 at 01:18 PM by lilguy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted January 9, 2023 at 01:34 PM Share Posted January 9, 2023 at 01:34 PM On 1/9/2023 at 7:17 AM, lilguy said: So, where are we now ? Senate has an executive hearing on their version at 9am, the version that the House (Welch got mouthy and was out of line by telling the senate that he doesn’t consider their version and told the senate to pass his/the house version), Pritzker (basically signaled he’ll veto the senate version) and Everytown (doesn’t support the senate version because the registration and confiscation/destruction provisions aren’t strict enough) doesn’t want, but the Senate seems to be a bit smarter and realize that the House version will be destroyed in court immediately, and their version is watered down and (still will be destroyed) stands a better chance. In short, we are at the same place we were last week, except both chambers are at odds with one another due and don’t want each other’s version Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybermgk Posted January 9, 2023 at 01:39 PM Share Posted January 9, 2023 at 01:39 PM On 1/9/2023 at 5:48 AM, mauserme said: At some point late, late last night Senate Amendment 2 to HB5471 was filed: Replaces everything after the enacting clause. Amends the Illinois State Police Law of the Civil Administrative Code of Illinois. Provides that the Division of Criminal Investigation of the Illinois State Police shall conduct other investigations as provided by law, including, but not limited to, investigations of human trafficking, illegal drug trafficking, and illegal firearms trafficking. Provides that the Division of Criminal Investigation shall provide statewide coordination and strategy pertaining to firearm-related intelligence, firearms trafficking interdiction, and investigations. Amends the Firearm Owners Identification Card Act. Provides that a petitioner may request a plenary firearms restraining order of up to one-year, but not less than 6 months (rather than 6 months). Provides that the order may be renewed for an additional period of up to one year. Amends the Criminal Code of 2012. Provides that beginning January 1, 2024, it is unlawful for any person within the State to knowingly possess an assault weapon, assault weapon attachment, .50 caliber rifle, or .50 caliber cartridge, with exemptions, and provides penalties. Provides that it is unlawful for any person within the State to knowingly manufacture, deliver, sell, purchase, or cause to be manufactured, delivered, sold, or purchased a large capacity ammunition feeding device, with specified exemptions, and provides penalties. Contains a severability provision. Effective immediately. Looks the same as Ammendment 1 except adds the registry back, that the house had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tvandermyde Posted January 9, 2023 at 01:41 PM Share Posted January 9, 2023 at 01:41 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybermgk Posted January 9, 2023 at 01:44 PM Share Posted January 9, 2023 at 01:44 PM On 1/9/2023 at 7:34 AM, steveTA84 said: Senate has an executive hearing on their version at 9am, the version that the House (Welch got mouthy and was out of line by telling the senate that he doesn’t consider their version and told the senate to pass his/the house version), Pritzker (basically signaled he’ll veto the senate version) and Everytown (doesn’t support the senate version because the registration and confiscation/destruction provisions aren’t strict enough) doesn’t want, but the Senate seems to be a bit smarter and realize that the House version will be destroyed in court immediately, and their version is watered down and (still will be destroyed) stands a better chance. In short, we are at the same place we were last week, except both chambers are at odds with one another due and don’t want each other’s version There is nothing in the Senate version that isn't as egregious and prone to being knocked down as the House version SPECIALLY with the changes in the #2 amendment. Heck, look at the restrictions on use and places for 'grandfathered' weapons and magazines. THOSE alone, violate Heller and Bruen. SPECIFICALLY Bruen, as that ws part of the NY law as well, that was struck down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted January 9, 2023 at 01:53 PM Share Posted January 9, 2023 at 01:53 PM (edited) On 1/9/2023 at 7:44 AM, cybermgk said: There is nothing in the Senate version that isn't as egregious and prone to being knocked down as the House version SPECIALLY with the changes in the #2 amendment. Heck, look at the restrictions on use and places for 'grandfathered' weapons and magazines. THOSE alone, violate Heller and Bruen. SPECIFICALLY Bruen, as that ws part of the NY law as well, that was struck down. Senate version grandfathers the mags and allows transfers of them if ISP is notified (which the whole thing is unenforceable anyways). I’m not a proponent of the bill at all, but that part has “stakeholders” up in arms. And yeah, this bill is a steaming pile of manure Edited January 9, 2023 at 01:54 PM by steveTA84 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted January 9, 2023 at 01:56 PM Share Posted January 9, 2023 at 01:56 PM Wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mab22 Posted January 9, 2023 at 02:12 PM Share Posted January 9, 2023 at 02:12 PM So they actually have a list that looks like the cook county BAN, it’s towards the end of the bill, and the obsession over .50 cal is pretty obvious, they really need to seek mental help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davel501 Posted January 9, 2023 at 02:16 PM Share Posted January 9, 2023 at 02:16 PM On 1/9/2023 at 8:12 AM, mab22 said: So they actually have a list that looks like the cook county BAN, it’s towards the end of the bill, and the obsession over .50 cal is pretty obvious, they really need to seek mental help. It just means those fancy war wagons all the police are buying can't stop .50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted January 9, 2023 at 02:16 PM Share Posted January 9, 2023 at 02:16 PM (edited) On 1/9/2023 at 8:12 AM, mab22 said: So they actually have a list that looks like the cook county BAN, it’s towards the end of the bill, and the obsession over .50 cal is pretty obvious, they really need to seek mental help. Maybe if these legislators and activists were properly medicated they wouldn’t be so anxious and outraged all the time and can get their misery under control and stop spreading it to normal people who use logic and facts to come to conclusions and such. Trust the science, right? https://wbckfm.com/new-pew-study-white-liberals-mental-problems/ According to Pew’s research white liberals/Democrats are much more likely than their conservative/Republican peers to have been diagnosed with one or more mental conditions. Interesting to note the difference is more pronounced in the younger aged category of 18 to 29-year-olds. Another interesting finding was that young white liberal/Democrat females were the most likely to have been diagnosed with a mental condition. Here are the statistics of young women diagnosed with a mental condition: 56% of young white liberals 28% of young white moderates 27% of young white conservatives Here are the statistics of young men diagnosed with a mental condition: 34% of liberal/Democrat men 22% of moderate men 16% of conservative men Edited January 9, 2023 at 02:19 PM by steveTA84 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybermgk Posted January 9, 2023 at 02:26 PM Share Posted January 9, 2023 at 02:26 PM On 1/9/2023 at 7:53 AM, steveTA84 said: Senate version grandfathers the mags and allows transfers of them if ISP is notified (which the whole thing is unenforceable anyways). I’m not a proponent of the bill at all, but that part has “stakeholders” up in arms. And yeah, this bill is a steaming pile of manure Yea, the only thing that makes the 'stakeholders' happy is the most egregious Unconstitutional version as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted January 9, 2023 at 02:39 PM Share Posted January 9, 2023 at 02:39 PM (edited) On 1/9/2023 at 8:26 AM, cybermgk said: Yea, the only thing that makes the 'stakeholders' happy is the most egregious Unconstitutional version as possible. Yep. And the ONLY reason they want registration is to target and harass current owners politically and eventually criminally. And again, it (registration) is not only not compatible post-Bruen, but illegal under federal law https://www.congress.gov/bill/99th-congress/senate-bill/49 Amends the rulemaking authority of the Secretary to provide that no regulation may require: (1) the transfer of records required under this Act to a facility owned, managed, or controlled by the United States or any State; or (2) the establishment of any system of registration of firearms, firearm owners, or firearm transactions. It’s pretty darn clear. The only reason things like the FOID potentially survive this is because you can get one without owning a gun. Tying registered guns (illegal) to an owner via a thing like the FOID (illegal) or even by name on a list is illegal Edited January 9, 2023 at 02:44 PM by steveTA84 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty425 Posted January 9, 2023 at 02:42 PM Share Posted January 9, 2023 at 02:42 PM There are only two reasons the Dems want to register firearms, to tax or to take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Porkchop Posted January 9, 2023 at 02:51 PM Share Posted January 9, 2023 at 02:51 PM On 1/9/2023 at 8:42 AM, Scotty425 said: There are only two reasons the Dems want to register firearms, to tax or to take. I'd say it's both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybermgk Posted January 9, 2023 at 02:52 PM Share Posted January 9, 2023 at 02:52 PM On 1/9/2023 at 8:42 AM, Scotty425 said: There are only two reasons the Dems want to register firearms, to tax or to take. Likely both. First tax at exorbitant rate, and take if not paid, then just take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt B Posted January 9, 2023 at 02:52 PM Share Posted January 9, 2023 at 02:52 PM Just look at CT. Their governor is screaming that previously grandfathered rifles are now a “loophole” and should be confiscated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upholder Posted January 9, 2023 at 02:53 PM Share Posted January 9, 2023 at 02:53 PM Looks like we might only be getting audio of the executive committee hearing this morning. I have meetings, so someone please take notes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upholder Posted January 9, 2023 at 03:10 PM Share Posted January 9, 2023 at 03:10 PM Slips currently stand at 59 proponents, 7188 opponents, 17 no position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangerdeepv Posted January 9, 2023 at 03:14 PM Share Posted January 9, 2023 at 03:14 PM Let's hope the pro-gun side is lawyered up and ready to go to battle the minute His Immensness signs this pile of crap and the ink dries. A TRO followed by a hard strike down would be the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Posted January 9, 2023 at 03:17 PM Share Posted January 9, 2023 at 03:17 PM I was in a LGS over the weekend for a couple hours of range time along with a tire kicking session. Bossy lady was with so nothing fun to be bought. I never heard a single individual discuss what is currently going on until a brief convo I made with a random dude. Even he didn't seem interested. I did hear the RSO complain to the group of kids next to me how they just bought the Glock he wanted and how p***** he was that it wasn't his. He still made time to put a mag downrange assuming while still working as the RSO. Unless you're an ISRA member who actually reads the emails or you visit here, chances are great that everyone else has zero clue as to what is currently happening. Why don't more gun stores get involved? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upholder Posted January 9, 2023 at 03:18 PM Share Posted January 9, 2023 at 03:18 PM Session is starting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedbump Posted January 9, 2023 at 03:19 PM Share Posted January 9, 2023 at 03:19 PM On 1/9/2023 at 7:17 AM, lilguy said: So, where are we now ? Answer: the Illinois Governor, House, and Senate are competing to see who among them can be the most notorious tyrants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted January 9, 2023 at 03:19 PM Author Share Posted January 9, 2023 at 03:19 PM The Senate Executive Committee coming to order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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