ragsbo Posted January 8, 2023 at 10:05 PM Share Posted January 8, 2023 at 10:05 PM On 1/8/2023 at 3:43 PM, crufflesmuth said: Our opposition does not hate the second amendment, guns or even self-defense. They truly believe the second amendment stops with handguns. They will absolutely, go after anything outside that. People like Welch and the like believe they're right, because they come from wealthy communities, where there are high amounts of family formation and income, which means higher amounts of socialization - which usually correlate to less violence. The problem wealthy white and progressive Tims and Mikes face: hispanics love guns and have a deep-rooted gun culture, which has a romantic view, especially with revolutionary figures like Zapata and Villa. So these people are set to lose, institutionally, because they've adopted abortion and anti-family politics (LGBTQ+) as their platform. If not for the jurisprudence of second amendment litigation, they would still be losing.. Because progressive left wingers believe household formation and meaningful relationships only apply to certain income brackets - they're playing the same game with gun rights.. Unfortunately, life isn't like your rich, white suburban enclave. In 2020, there were riots in Melrose Park and Chicago. Things happen..and quickly. At root of the anti-violence movement, is one stubborn and obnoxious demographic: white suburban women. This demographic, unlike black and hispanic women, generally feel threatened when people - especially women, take responsibility for their own safety..why? Because the less need for police, means more need for individuals and community. The anti-violence movement alleges they want a less violent society, beyond cosmetic and capacity bans for firearms - they really never mention how this is accomplished - especially intellectually.. If assault weapons are dangerous for Illinois communities, then why can police departments still use them? if they're so dangerous, why are police departments and officers not banned from possessing them? The truth, these weapons are dangerous: to a corrupt system of politicians, who until recently, were forcing and dictating rules of commerce from buying food at chipotle, down to defining which professions were and were not essential.. Welch is intellectually dishonest, his legislation will not keep communities safe - if he really cared, he would push to eliminate the gas tax and decriminalize prostitution, in addition to banning property taxes.. On 1/8/2023 at 4:02 PM, Evil Porkchop said: Disagree with you on this. They are absolutely coming for handguns. They don't believe the 2A applies to the people either, just the government. You are 1,000 percent right! They want ALL guns out of the hands of anyone but themselves and their servants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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