mauserme Posted December 8, 2022 at 08:20 PM Share Posted December 8, 2022 at 08:20 PM In case you haven't filed a witness slip already... SCOTUS? We Don't Need No Stinking SCOTUS! Out going Illinois Representative Kathleen Willis established a long tradition of ignoring the US Supreme Court decision in DC v Heller with her perennial filing of safe storage bills. When called out at a town hall meeting, she was quoted as saying she didn't want to hear anything about the Supreme Court. Now that she is on the verge of being legislative history, Representative Bob Morgan seeks to take her place with the filing of HB5855 Firearm – Assault/FOID/Restrain. As an attorney, one would expect Mr. Morgan to understand that the “text, history and tradition” mandate the Supreme Court gave us in New York State Rifle and Pistol Association v Bruen raises the Second Amendment level of scrutiny higher than we've ever seen in a century of case law. This level of scrutiny is higher than the intermediate level his logic is based upon; higher, even, than strict scrutiny. One would expect him to know, and share with his followers, that in addition to finding against New York, the Supreme Court vacated the lower court ruling in Bianchi v Frosh, because the 4th Circuit was wrong when it upheld Maryland's “assault weapon” ban. It would be reasonable to think Mr. Morgan knows that ANJRPC v. Bruck and Duncan v. Bonta were vacated at the same time, because the 4th and 9th Circuits were wrong when they upheld magazine bans. He could be expected to know that a panel of the 9th Circuit Court of appeals found California's age based ban on gun purchases unconstitutional with subsequent instruction to take NYSRPA v Bruen into account. And what of red flag laws? In his Caniglia v Strom concurring opinion, Justice Alito has already intimated that those are ripe for challenge. Mr. Morgan's bill would make Illinois' red flag law worse, helping bring the inevitable that much sooner. Devices to facilitate discharge of a firearm? Yet another opportunity for Illinois gun owners to embarrass the likes of Mr. Morgan in court, should his bill become law. He should know these things. He probably does know these things. Yet, he chooses to keep this information from the people who need it most. The days of the two step, interest balancing gun rights analysis are gone. The case law Mr. Morgan cites is moot. Constitutional law is back. The Second Amendment itself is the entirety of the allowed interest balancing, as the Founders intended. And the Supreme Court of the United States is of no greater importance to this great land than it is at this very moment. Join us in opposing HB5855. File witness slips now, and stay alert for possible future Calls to Action regarding additional hearings on this, and potentially other legislation. HB5855 Firearms - Assault/FOID/Restrain OPPONENT! Read More About This Bill File an OPPONENT Witness Slip (use the Section III drop down to choose House Bill 5855 Protect Illinois Communities Act) Track the Witness Slips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G214me Posted December 8, 2022 at 08:26 PM Share Posted December 8, 2022 at 08:26 PM Done x 5 at my house and working to wake everyone else I can and get them going. BTW I love the name for the topic !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springfield shooter Posted December 8, 2022 at 08:37 PM Share Posted December 8, 2022 at 08:37 PM On 12/8/2022 at 2:20 PM, mauserme said: In case you haven't filed a witness slip already... SCOTUS? We Don't Need No Stinking SCOTUS! ....... PREACH IT BROTHER. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundguy Posted December 8, 2022 at 08:39 PM Share Posted December 8, 2022 at 08:39 PM Done, again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modeler1945 Posted December 8, 2022 at 09:18 PM Share Posted December 8, 2022 at 09:18 PM Done & sent out to friends/family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euler Posted December 8, 2022 at 09:52 PM Share Posted December 8, 2022 at 09:52 PM The first two entries on the "No Position" tab: Elizabeth Bowes House Bill 5855. Protect Illinois Communities Act. Moms Demand Action self Record Of Appearance Only Vincent Cantore House Bill 5855. Protect Illinois Communities Act. Moms too Ugly to Get Action GunRights 4 Illinois Record Of Appearance Only Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted December 8, 2022 at 11:30 PM Share Posted December 8, 2022 at 11:30 PM Whoever is writing the call to actions, they are awesome. I dig the more “aggressive” posturing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Illiniwek Posted December 8, 2022 at 11:44 PM Share Posted December 8, 2022 at 11:44 PM Done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springfield shooter Posted December 8, 2022 at 11:46 PM Share Posted December 8, 2022 at 11:46 PM On 12/8/2022 at 5:30 PM, steveTA84 said: Whoever is writing the call to actions, they are awesome. I dig the more “aggressive” posturing I will speculate (and can only speculate) that whenever the pro-2A folks speak in upcoming hearings, or in meetings, that their listeners are going to get a healthy diet of "post-Bruen reality". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon70 Posted December 9, 2022 at 12:23 AM Share Posted December 9, 2022 at 12:23 AM Done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve51 Posted December 9, 2022 at 12:38 AM Share Posted December 9, 2022 at 12:38 AM Done X2 (Wife & I) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDUC10 Posted December 9, 2022 at 12:41 AM Share Posted December 9, 2022 at 12:41 AM Done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragsbo Posted December 9, 2022 at 01:06 AM Share Posted December 9, 2022 at 01:06 AM Until the Courts start holding these folks in contempt and arrest them for violating our constitutional rights the courts have ruled on, then they won't stop. IF they paid for thier crimes and sins like the liberals socialists commies try to do to a person they hate, they might stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBarchetta Posted December 9, 2022 at 02:35 AM Share Posted December 9, 2022 at 02:35 AM Done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDW Posted December 9, 2022 at 02:45 AM Share Posted December 9, 2022 at 02:45 AM Done, thanks for the link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gearhead Posted December 9, 2022 at 02:57 AM Share Posted December 9, 2022 at 02:57 AM Once again, done x2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangerdeepv Posted December 9, 2022 at 03:18 AM Share Posted December 9, 2022 at 03:18 AM Done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCC Posted December 9, 2022 at 03:47 AM Share Posted December 9, 2022 at 03:47 AM Done.....thanks for all you guys do for us !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yettiblood Posted December 9, 2022 at 04:11 AM Share Posted December 9, 2022 at 04:11 AM Done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanB425 Posted December 9, 2022 at 07:51 AM Share Posted December 9, 2022 at 07:51 AM (edited) I’m over the BS these traitors and thieves peddle. NO MORE “compromise.” It’s time we took a stand, remind these fake representatives they are expendable and take our rights back Edited December 9, 2022 at 07:54 AM by RyanB425 Change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felixd Posted December 9, 2022 at 02:51 PM Share Posted December 9, 2022 at 02:51 PM Thank you Mauserme for the email alert yesterday. I may have missed the call without it. IllinoisCarry is the only reliable source of knowledge we have in defending ourselves in Springfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stockboyy Posted December 9, 2022 at 03:25 PM Share Posted December 9, 2022 at 03:25 PM done x2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Posted December 9, 2022 at 03:26 PM Share Posted December 9, 2022 at 03:26 PM On 12/8/2022 at 7:06 PM, ragsbo said: Until the Courts start holding these folks in contempt and arrest them for violating our constitutional rights the courts have ruled on, then they won't stop. IF they paid for thier crimes and sins like the liberals socialists commies try to do to a person they hate, they might stop. Ask a liberal what they want to do to the prison system? Empty them. Not to mention they don't care or want to deal with courts anymore. Heck, many of them don't show up when their day comes anyway. But this is what they want to flood the system with? Also, done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deerhuntre Posted December 9, 2022 at 04:59 PM Share Posted December 9, 2022 at 04:59 PM Filed. And shared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunflyr Posted December 9, 2022 at 06:07 PM Share Posted December 9, 2022 at 06:07 PM DONE ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted December 9, 2022 at 08:29 PM Author Share Posted December 9, 2022 at 08:29 PM (edited) Just an FYI, HB5855 is scheduled for a subject matter hearing again on 12/15/2022. Here's the witness slip link. Edited December 9, 2022 at 08:37 PM by mauserme Corrected link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiliconSorcerer Posted December 9, 2022 at 08:41 PM Share Posted December 9, 2022 at 08:41 PM On 12/9/2022 at 2:29 PM, mauserme said: Just an FYI, HB5855 is scheduled for a subject matter hearing again on 12/15/2022. Here's the witness slip link. Please explain to the dim witted (me) that shows less than 10 and won't let me says I did already, I did on the other link/totals but apparently not on this link, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted December 9, 2022 at 09:16 PM Author Share Posted December 9, 2022 at 09:16 PM Maybe they're lumping all subject matter slips together, regardless of date. I'll look closer when I'm home from work and see if I can figure this out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdDinIL Posted December 9, 2022 at 09:22 PM Share Posted December 9, 2022 at 09:22 PM I see two distinct sets of witness slips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmHand357 Posted December 10, 2022 at 03:27 AM Share Posted December 10, 2022 at 03:27 AM Wow, this looks to me like a record high witness slip count, on both sides. Luckily the numbers are significantly on our side, so far... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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