L.C. Posted December 2, 2022 at 02:06 AM Share Posted December 2, 2022 at 02:06 AM New Illinois bill would outlaw sale of assault style weapons, prevent most people under 21 from buying guns fox32chicago.com/news/new-illinois-bill-would-outlaw-sale-of-assault-style-weapons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobPistol Posted December 2, 2022 at 02:11 AM Share Posted December 2, 2022 at 02:11 AM "We're trying to get the band back together" - Jake Blues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illinois_buckeye Posted December 2, 2022 at 02:39 AM Share Posted December 2, 2022 at 02:39 AM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilguy Posted December 2, 2022 at 01:36 PM Share Posted December 2, 2022 at 01:36 PM I’m not surprised this is coming. The FOID System has only burdened folks that are law abiding to start with. Criminals with or without one will use a gun illegally so the system doesn’t work and now it’s time to go after the gun since controlling people hasn’t cut it.. When I bought my first hand gun over 50 years ago, at a long gone shop in Glen Ellyn, I asked about the FOID. the owner told me “it’s so they know where your are when they decide to take them” We live in a one party dictatorship, the voters double down on it every cycle. They pass a law in short order and we spend years hoping a judge will save us. They have the upper hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiliconSorcerer Posted December 2, 2022 at 06:19 PM Share Posted December 2, 2022 at 06:19 PM On 12/2/2022 at 7:36 AM, lilguy said: I’m not surprised this is coming. The FOID System has only burdened folks that are law abiding to start with. Criminals with or without one will use a gun illegally so the system doesn’t work and now it’s time to go after the gun since controlling people hasn’t cut it.. When I bought my first hand gun over 50 years ago, at a long gone shop in Glen Ellyn, I asked about the FOID. the owner told me “it’s so they know where your are when they decide to take them” We live in a one party dictatorship, the voters double down on it every cycle. They pass a law in short order and we spend years hoping a judge will save us. They have the upper hand. And no F... Democrats! I still say we should start massively reporting any lawyers voting for this to the BAR, clearly supporting illegal/unconstitutional laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybermgk Posted December 3, 2022 at 07:11 AM Share Posted December 3, 2022 at 07:11 AM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol-Invictus Posted December 3, 2022 at 12:53 PM Share Posted December 3, 2022 at 12:53 PM Impeachment proceeding must be started against any judge that attempts to rule against Bruen. As stated in a previous post the Illinois lawmakers are committing felony conspiracy by knowingly attempting to violate human rights under color of law. This is clear black and white law. They must be charged and arrested by a local sherrif today. Then held without bail because they are in effect committing sedention against the people and the laws of the the United States and thus are a clear and present danger to the citizens of Illinois. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragsbo Posted December 4, 2022 at 03:47 AM Share Posted December 4, 2022 at 03:47 AM On 12/3/2022 at 6:53 AM, Sol-Invictus said: Impeachment proceeding must be started against any judge that attempts to rule against Bruen. As stated in a previous post the Illinois lawmakers are committing felony conspiracy by knowingly attempting to violate human rights under color of law. This is clear black and white law. They must be charged and arrested by a local sherrif today. Then held without bail because they are in effect committing sedention against the people and the laws of the the United States and thus are a clear and present danger to the citizens of Illinois. I agree 1,000 percent but we will never see it happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
357 Posted December 4, 2022 at 08:16 AM Share Posted December 4, 2022 at 08:16 AM On 12/3/2022 at 6:53 AM, Sol-Invictus said: Impeachment proceeding must be started against any judge that attempts to rule against Bruen. As stated in a previous post the Illinois lawmakers are committing felony conspiracy by knowingly attempting to violate human rights under color of law. This is clear black and white law. They must be charged and arrested by a local sherrif today. Then held without bail because they are in effect committing sedention against the people and the laws of the the United States and thus are a clear and present danger to the citizens of Illinois. That's what the cabal pays them to do, they could care less about higher court decisions or being sued. They are calling any weapon they want to ban an "assault weapon" which by the way was coined by Hitler for the Sturmgewehr 44 and is being used for propaganda to disarm Americans by a cabal that wants total control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpdesk9 Posted December 4, 2022 at 11:51 AM Share Posted December 4, 2022 at 11:51 AM Since these same politicans so eagerly removed qualified immunity from police, they too should be stripped of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G214me Posted December 4, 2022 at 06:59 PM Share Posted December 4, 2022 at 06:59 PM Notice no mention of tougher penalties for actual criminals, things that go after gang violence, drug dealing, etc. Thats because stopping the violence isn't the goal. Disarming YOU is the goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davel501 Posted December 4, 2022 at 10:07 PM Share Posted December 4, 2022 at 10:07 PM I wish someone would fix the title of this post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkhalil61 Posted December 4, 2022 at 10:31 PM Share Posted December 4, 2022 at 10:31 PM Unfortunately this will most likely become law in Illinois Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikew Posted December 4, 2022 at 11:37 PM Share Posted December 4, 2022 at 11:37 PM On 12/4/2022 at 4:07 PM, davel501 said: I wish someone would fix the title of this post. Agreed. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumak_from_arfcom Posted December 4, 2022 at 11:45 PM Share Posted December 4, 2022 at 11:45 PM On 12/4/2022 at 12:59 PM, G214me said: Notice no mention of tougher penalties for actual criminals, things that go after gang violence, drug dealing, etc. Thats because stopping the violence isn't the goal. Disarming YOU is the goal. The chicago dems aren't going to suggest any legislation that will put their voters in jail. They just got the safe-t act nonsense that will keep most of them out of jail. If they start putting them in jail then crime will go down and they'll lose political capital to blame and ban the things they don't like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tvandermyde Posted December 5, 2022 at 02:36 AM Share Posted December 5, 2022 at 02:36 AM here is a video I did on this if you like my commentary, please like and subscribe my youtube channel -- Freedom's Steel I'll be trying to do a couple more shorter ones about smaller segments Todd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mab22 Posted December 5, 2022 at 03:50 AM Share Posted December 5, 2022 at 03:50 AM On 12/4/2022 at 5:45 PM, Dumak_from_arfcom said: The chicago dems aren't going to suggest any legislation that will put their voters in jail. They just got the safe-t act nonsense that will keep most of them out of jail. If they start putting them in jail then crime will go down and they'll lose political capital to blame and ban the things they don't like. you might want to check out rumble.com, it’s not the censoring YouTube.com. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilguy Posted December 5, 2022 at 03:31 PM Share Posted December 5, 2022 at 03:31 PM What is the bill # for this veto session, would like latest rendition of bill from January if there is one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted December 5, 2022 at 04:20 PM Share Posted December 5, 2022 at 04:20 PM The bill filed at the end of the Veto Session is HB5855. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
korgs130 Posted December 5, 2022 at 10:00 PM Share Posted December 5, 2022 at 10:00 PM On 12/4/2022 at 8:36 PM, Tvandermyde said: here is a video I did on this if you like my commentary, please like and subscribe my youtube channel -- Freedom's Steel I'll be trying to do a couple more shorter ones about smaller segments Todd Todd, great videos. I’ve been busy sharing them to help get the word out. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol-Invictus Posted December 6, 2022 at 02:51 AM Share Posted December 6, 2022 at 02:51 AM https://www.ammoland.com/2022/12/court-vacates-remands-ban-on-sale-of-semi-auto-rifles-to-adults-under-21/#axzz7me7jLSOQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumak_from_arfcom Posted December 6, 2022 at 03:44 AM Share Posted December 6, 2022 at 03:44 AM On 12/5/2022 at 8:51 PM, Sol-Invictus said: https://www.ammoland.com/2022/12/court-vacates-remands-ban-on-sale-of-semi-auto-rifles-to-adults-under-21/#axzz7me7jLSOQ That is a big one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawman Posted December 6, 2022 at 04:12 AM Share Posted December 6, 2022 at 04:12 AM Here's what the data says about "assault weapons": https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/what-the-data-actually-say-about-assault-weapons/ar-AA14W08Z?cvid=e343c97e44274da7996c75ce762e7b2f Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikew Posted December 6, 2022 at 04:51 AM Share Posted December 6, 2022 at 04:51 AM On 12/5/2022 at 10:12 PM, lawman said: Here's what the data says about "assault weapons": https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/what-the-data-actually-say-about-assault-weapons/ar-AA14W08Z?cvid=e343c97e44274da7996c75ce762e7b2f MSN scraped that from The Hill, who lists the author as a "opinion contributor". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
357 Posted December 6, 2022 at 06:23 AM Share Posted December 6, 2022 at 06:23 AM On 12/5/2022 at 10:51 PM, mikew said: MSN scraped that from The Hill, who lists the author as a "opinion contributor". The data says only 455 people a year are killed with rifles AKA "assault" weapons. More people are killed from hands, fists and feet. https://eu.statesman.com/story/news/politics/politifact/2022/05/30/fbi-data-deaths-hands-fists-feet-versus-rifles/9960682002/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol-Invictus Posted December 6, 2022 at 11:37 AM Share Posted December 6, 2022 at 11:37 AM That article misses the mark in so many areas. It does not list the affirmative use of arms to save lives. It also fails the most profound point and is consistent with the outdated 2 step approach. It is not relevant. No matter how you define "affordable self protection devices," Bruin prevent any bans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markthesignguy Posted December 7, 2022 at 02:20 AM Share Posted December 7, 2022 at 02:20 AM Since the author is concealed, it has to be the spawn of one of the more odious gun control oligarch. Bloomie himself?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vito Posted December 7, 2022 at 07:15 PM Share Posted December 7, 2022 at 07:15 PM Will downstate Democrats vote against this bill? I get tired of hearing about how gun rights and gun control are NOT partisan issues, and that it is perfectly rational for a gun rights supporter to vote Democrat. I also get tired of hearing from the naive, or lazy, who say "I don't vote for the Party, I vote for the person". At the national level it is indisputable that virtually every elected Democrat votes in lockstep with what the Democrat leadership wants. While it has not be as true at the state level, I won't hold my breath waiting for downstate and possibly suburban Democrat elected officials to stand up for the U.S. Constitution and for sanity while crime is at epidemic proportions. If this passes, I wonder how many owners of so-called assault rifles, as well as owners of magazines with a capacity of over 10 will just willingly dispose of the now illegal items. When this bill passes it will be just that much easier to convince sane people to move out of this vile state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted December 7, 2022 at 07:23 PM Share Posted December 7, 2022 at 07:23 PM (edited) On 12/7/2022 at 1:15 PM, vito said: If this passes, I wonder how many owners of so-called assault rifles, as well as owners of magazines with a capacity of over 10 will just willingly dispose of the now illegal items. Check the compliance rate in ban states that enacted their laws a decade ago. It’s low, and it’s also rarely enforced (more or less add-on charges to crimes, not by themselves). Now, the weapons they want banned are even more prominent and normal, therefor..... Edited December 7, 2022 at 07:23 PM by steveTA84 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techgeek Posted December 8, 2022 at 12:06 AM Share Posted December 8, 2022 at 12:06 AM On 12/7/2022 at 1:23 PM, steveTA84 said: Check the compliance rate in ban states that enacted their laws a decade ago. It’s low, and it’s also rarely enforced (more or less add-on charges to crimes, not by themselves). Now, the weapons they want banned are even more prominent and normal, therefor..... How many bumpstocks got turned in, like a couple dozen. I am sure that everyone else sawed them in half like they were supposed to of course? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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