Molly B. Posted February 24, 2023 at 04:46 PM Share Posted February 24, 2023 at 04:46 PM It may still be going on . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hetzen Posted February 24, 2023 at 05:02 PM Share Posted February 24, 2023 at 05:02 PM (edited) So .... worst case scenario avoided and they're not being consolidated with Naperville? Edit: He posted a reply saying "The Judge said he read it (NAGR/Bevis) but didn't comment on it further. It won't be slowing down these cases." Edited February 24, 2023 at 05:03 PM by hetzen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt B Posted February 24, 2023 at 05:46 PM Share Posted February 24, 2023 at 05:46 PM Yeah Moros didn’t seem concerned that Naperville would slow down or otherwise consolidate into these four cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tvandermyde Posted February 24, 2023 at 08:16 PM Share Posted February 24, 2023 at 08:16 PM I'll get an update out a bit later, surmise to say I'm happy with the way it went. I will point out that the lead case is now Barnett not the SAF/ISRA case, someone might want to inform Mr. Pearson he got it wrong -- again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euler Posted February 24, 2023 at 10:47 PM Author Share Posted February 24, 2023 at 10:47 PM On 2/24/2023 at 3:16 PM, Tvandermyde said: ... I will point out that the lead case is now Barnett not the SAF/ISRA case, someone might want to inform Mr. Pearson he got it wrong -- again The usual convention is to consolidate into the lowest numbered case. Barnett is 3:23-cv-00209. Harrel is 3:23-cv-00141. The judge calls the shots, though. He probably has reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euler Posted February 26, 2023 at 12:27 AM Author Share Posted February 26, 2023 at 12:27 AM The CA7 docket for the preliminary injunction appeal is 23-1353. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilguy Posted February 26, 2023 at 05:45 AM Share Posted February 26, 2023 at 05:45 AM What next court result are we hoping for, and might it be state wide? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euler Posted February 26, 2023 at 06:27 AM Author Share Posted February 26, 2023 at 06:27 AM On 2/26/2023 at 12:45 AM, lilguy said: What next court result are we hoping for, and might it be state wide? In this case, a CA7 review of the preliminary injunction will happen faster than a permanent injunction in the district court (which is probably going to be denied and would kill a preliminary injunction, anyway). I also kind of wonder if the plaintiffs are rethinking their desire to combine Bevis with Goldman and Herrera. Otherwise, it's a race for a preliminary injunction in Barnett v Raoul. Injunctions should be state-wide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upholder Posted February 27, 2023 at 08:34 PM Share Posted February 27, 2023 at 08:34 PM Bevis v Naperville is disussed as part of this article: https://reason.com/volokh/2023/02/27/how-powerful-are-ar-rifles/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euler Posted March 1, 2023 at 07:44 AM Author Share Posted March 1, 2023 at 07:44 AM (edited) On February 28, plaintiffs filed a motion for an injunction pending appeal. In particular, it's a motion re-asking for a preliminary injunction. The appeal for the preliminary injunction still moves forward. If the district court issues an injunction, the 7th Circuit can affirm it or vacate it. (TIL: If you're going to file an appeal for an injunction, you must ask the lower court to reconsider. Also TIL: You don't need to login to RECAP to upload a document from PACER. Hmm ... That sounds like a security vulnerability waiting to be exploited....) I think the section headings summarize the motion pretty well. Motion said: ... I. Procedural Background Plaintiffs filed motions for preliminary injunction with respect to the City of Naperville Ordinance on November 18, 2022 ... and with respect to the State of Illinois Statute on January 24, 2023 .... The Court denied Plaintiffs’ motions for preliminary injunction in an order dated February 17, 2023 .... On February 21, 2023, Plaintiffs appealed the Order to the United States Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit .... See 28 U.S.C. § 1292(a)(1) (order denying request for preliminary injunction appealable) II. Standard of Review [Federal Rules of Appellate Procedure] 8(a)(1)(C) states that a party must move first in the district court for an injunction pending appeal. ... ... III. Justice Thomas: Laws Like the Illinois Statute and the City's Ordinance are Clearly Unconstitutional ... IV. "The Relative Dangerousness of a Weapon is Irrelevant" ... V. The Court Failed to Distinguish Between "Ban" and "Regulation" ... VI. This Court's Means-End Scrutiny was Not Proper ... VII. The City's Central Premise is False A. Heller Rejected the City's Central Premise ... VIII. The Heller/Bruen Historical Analysis A. The Founding Era is the Relevant Time Frame ... B. The Court Should Not Focus on the 20th Century ... C. The City's Burden is to Identify "an Enduring American Tradition," Not a Handful of Isolated Examples and Outliers ... D. The City's Focus on Mass Shootings Does Not Distinguish This Case from Heller ... IX. The City Cannot Identify a Historical Tradition of Absolute Bans of Commonly Held Arms ... X. Typical Possession, Not Actual Use, is the Test ... XI. The Other Temporary Injunction Factors Are Met A. The Factors Are Met on the Basis of the Constitutional Violation ... B. The Factors Are Met Based on Law Weapons, Inc.'s Extreme Financial Duress ... C. The Injunction Pending Appeal Must Apply to More Than Just The Plaintiffs ... X. Conclusion For the foregoing reasons, Plaintiffs have met all of the [Federal Rules of Civil Procedure] 62(d) criteria for an injunction pending appeal and respectfully request the Court to enter such injunction forthwith. That puts a different spin on the Viramontes hearing next week. Edited March 1, 2023 at 07:47 AM by Euler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upholder Posted March 2, 2023 at 09:19 PM Share Posted March 2, 2023 at 09:19 PM Circuit Judge Michael Y. Scudder of the Seventh Circuit has granted the State's motion to intervene in the appeal as an intervening appellee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plinkermostly Posted March 3, 2023 at 03:04 PM Share Posted March 3, 2023 at 03:04 PM On 3/2/2023 at 3:19 PM, Upholder said: Circuit Judge Michael Y. Scudder of the Seventh Circuit has granted the State's motion to intervene in the appeal as an intervening appellee. Is it just me, or does that almost make sense? Nah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upholder Posted March 3, 2023 at 07:40 PM Share Posted March 3, 2023 at 07:40 PM NAGR discussing the ruling and appeal: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euler Posted March 4, 2023 at 12:43 AM Author Share Posted March 4, 2023 at 12:43 AM On 3/1/2023 at 2:44 AM, Euler said: On February 28, plaintiffs filed a motion for an injunction pending appeal. In particular, it's a motion re-asking for a preliminary injunction. The appeal for the preliminary injunction still moves forward. If the district court issues an injunction, the 7th Circuit can affirm it or vacate it. ... On March 2, the district judge denied the preliminary injunction again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davel501 Posted March 4, 2023 at 01:29 AM Share Posted March 4, 2023 at 01:29 AM On 3/3/2023 at 6:43 PM, Euler said: On March 2, the district judge denied the preliminary injunction again. Any idea why they asked for a second look? Were they trying to get more arguments into their appeal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euler Posted March 4, 2023 at 01:34 AM Author Share Posted March 4, 2023 at 01:34 AM (edited) On 3/3/2023 at 8:29 PM, davel501 said: Any idea why they asked for a second look? Were they trying to get more arguments into their appeal? On 3/1/2023 at 2:44 AM, Euler said: ... ... If you're going to file an appeal for an injunction, you must ask the lower court to reconsider. ... ... Edited March 4, 2023 at 01:34 AM by Euler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euler Posted March 10, 2023 at 02:17 AM Author Share Posted March 10, 2023 at 02:17 AM Since the full appeal docket isn't available on CourtListener, here it is (so far): General Docket Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals Court of Appeals Docket #: 23-1353 Docketed: 02/23/2023 Nature of Suit: 3440 Other Civil Rights Robert Bevis, et al v. City of Naperville, et al Appeal From: Northern District of Illinois, Eastern Division Fee Status: Paid Case Type Information: 1) civil 2) private 3) - Originating Court Information: District: 0752-1 : 1:22-cv-04775 Court Reporter: Gayle McGuigan, Court Reporter Trial Judge: Virginia M. Kendall, District Court Judge Date Filed: 09/07/2022 Date Order/Judgment: Date NOA Filed: 02/17/2023 02/21/2023 02/23/2023 1 Private civil case docketed. Fee paid. Docketing Statement due for Appellants Robert Bevis, Law Weapons, Inc. and National Association for Gun Rights by 02/28/2023. Transcript information sheet due by 03/09/2023. Appellant's brief due on or before 04/04/2023 for Robert Bevis, Law Weapons, Inc. and National Association for Gun Rights. [1] [7293235] [23-1353] (HTP) [Entered: 02/23/2023 02:29 PM] 02/23/2023 2 No attorney(s) added for Appellee Jason Arres, per District Court docket and information sheet. [2] [7293241] [23-1353] (HTP) [Entered: 02/23/2023 02:35 PM] 02/23/2023 3 Filed Non-Party Motion To Intervene As Of Right by The State of Illinois. [7293379] [23-1353] (Griffis, Carson) [Entered: 02/23/2023 04:41 PM] 02/28/2023 4 Circuit Rule 26.1 Disclosure Statement and Appearance filed by Attorney Christopher B. Wilson for Appellee City of Naperville. [4] [7294082] (L-Yes; E-Yes; R-No) [23-1353]-[Edited 02/28/2023 by AP- to reflect the addition of counsel] (Wilson, Christopher) [Entered: 02/28/2023 10:18 AM] 02/28/2023 5 Docketing Statement filed by Appellants Robert Bevis, Law Weapons, Inc. and National Association for Gun Rights. Prior or Related proceedings: No. [5] [7294298] [23-1353] (Craddock, Jason) [Entered: 02/28/2023 03:33 PM] 02/28/2023 6 Circuit Rule 26.1 Disclosure Statement and Appearance filed by Attorney Jason R. Craddock, Sr. for Appellants Robert Bevis, Law Weapons, Inc. and National Association for Gun Rights. [6] [7294301] (L-Yes; E-Yes; R-No) [23-1353] (Craddock, Jason) [Entered: 02/28/2023 03:36 PM] 03/02/2023 7 ORDER re: Motion to intervene as of right, filed on 2/23/2023. The motion for leave to intervene is GRANTED. The State of Illinois may participate in this appeal as an intervening appellee. [3] MRO [7] [7294704] [23-1353] (FP) [Entered: 03/02/2023 10:27 AM] 03/07/2023 8 Motion filed by Appellants Robert Bevis, Law Weapons, Inc. and National Association for Gun Rights for stay. [8] [7295805] [23-1353] (Craddock, Jason) [Entered: 03/07/2023 06:34 PM] 03/07/2023 9 Submitted supplemental Appendix to motion by Jason R. Craddock for Appellants Robert Bevis, Law Weapons, Inc. and National Association for Gun Rights. [9] NOTE: Access to this entry is limited to counsel of record. [7295806] [23-1353]--[Edited 03/08/2023 by LJ to reflect the correct filing type] (Craddock, Jason) [Entered: 03/07/2023 06:36 PM] 03/09/2023 10 ORDER re: 1. Motion for injunction pending appeal. 2. Appendix to motion for injunction pending appeal. The Appellees shall file a response to the motion for an injunction pending appeal on or before March 21, 2023. MRO [10] [7296244] [23-1353] (CG) [Entered: 03/09/2023 11:29 AM] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upholder Posted March 13, 2023 at 05:40 PM Share Posted March 13, 2023 at 05:40 PM Discussion of the errors in Bevis v Naperville: Quote So Bevis begins with the fundamentally wrong criterion that being particularly "dangerous," alone, justifies banning a type of firearm. Full article at https://reason.com/volokh/2023/03/13/second-amendment-roundup-an-opening-judicial-salvo-in-defense-of-illinois-new-rifle-ban/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiliconSorcerer Posted March 13, 2023 at 09:44 PM Share Posted March 13, 2023 at 09:44 PM On 3/13/2023 at 12:40 PM, Upholder said: Discussion of the errors in Bevis v Naperville: Full article at https://reason.com/volokh/2023/03/13/second-amendment-roundup-an-opening-judicial-salvo-in-defense-of-illinois-new-rifle-ban/ Maybe crime was incredibly low because everyone had a firearm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upholder Posted March 21, 2023 at 04:26 PM Share Posted March 21, 2023 at 04:26 PM Intervening State Appellee's Opposition to Platinffs' Motion for Injunction Pending Appeal: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ca7.48393/gov.uscourts.ca7.48393.13.0.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upholder Posted March 21, 2023 at 04:46 PM Share Posted March 21, 2023 at 04:46 PM Quote #2A Cliff Notes: If "arms" ban case (AR-15/mags), then if they are "in common use", 2A wins (Govt bears burden to show NOT in common use). For gun regs (carry rules), plain text first, then history. Govt bears burden to show Founding history included such regs. No history=2A WINS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upholder Posted March 22, 2023 at 09:09 PM Share Posted March 22, 2023 at 09:09 PM City of Naperville and Jason Arres' Response in Opposition to Plaintiffs' Motion for Injunction Pending Appeal: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ca7.48393/gov.uscourts.ca7.48393.17.0.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flynn Posted March 22, 2023 at 09:55 PM Share Posted March 22, 2023 at 09:55 PM (edited) LOL, more of the same fallicious copy and paste of utter stupidity... On a positive note this blatant continued too clever by half mental gymnastics and changing words to mean something else should make it easier for us to prevail with judges that actually follow the law. Edited March 22, 2023 at 09:57 PM by Flynn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euler Posted March 31, 2023 at 03:31 AM Author Share Posted March 31, 2023 at 03:31 AM On 3/9/2023 at 9:17 PM, Euler said: Since the full appeal docket isn't available on CourtListener, here it is (so far): ... RECAP has begun adding support for appellate cases. I'm not sure how the decision is made between which cases are supported for upload to CourtListener and which cases aren't, but the Bevis appeal for a preliminary injunction is one that is supported, complete with document re-download. CA7 Docket On March 7, plaintiffs filed their motion for a preliminary injunction. On March 9, the court ordered defendants to respond by March 21. On March 21, defendants responded. On March 24, plaintiffs replied to the response. On March 29, Naperville added two lawyers from Brady United to its team, which is otherwise a gang from Perkins Coie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagSlap Posted March 31, 2023 at 07:24 PM Share Posted March 31, 2023 at 07:24 PM Is it just me?..... Or am I the only one who 'THINKS THIS'..... ....when I read this thread topic? (Sorry..I can't help myself) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byxlaw Posted March 31, 2023 at 09:18 PM Share Posted March 31, 2023 at 09:18 PM Spelling is a bit different, but no, you are not alone... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Posted April 1, 2023 at 09:29 AM Share Posted April 1, 2023 at 09:29 AM On 3/31/2023 at 3:24 PM, MagSlap said: Is it just me?..... Or am I the only one who 'THINKS THIS'..... ....when I read this thread topic? (Sorry..I can't help myself) Bevis vs Butthead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upholder Posted April 5, 2023 at 05:05 AM Share Posted April 5, 2023 at 05:05 AM Brief of Plaintiffs-Appellants https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ca7.48393/gov.uscourts.ca7.48393.27.0.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euler Posted April 11, 2023 at 02:53 AM Author Share Posted April 11, 2023 at 02:53 AM It looks (from the docket) like the appellate court is trying to schedule oral arguments on the preliminary injunction sometime in June or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upholder Posted April 14, 2023 at 08:09 PM Share Posted April 14, 2023 at 08:09 PM FPC has filed an Amicus Brief: https://assets.nationbuilder.com/firearmspolicycoalition/pages/191/attachments/original/1681502044/Bevis_v_Naperville_FPC_FPCAF_Amicus.pdf?1681502044 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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