Molly B. Posted November 23, 2022 at 03:39 PM Share Posted November 23, 2022 at 03:39 PM https://newschannel20.com/news/local/isp-updates-new-rules-on-firearms-access##new_tab Quote SPRINGFIELD, Ill. (KHQA) — The Illinois State Police (ISP) on Monday adopted updates aimed at keeping firearms out of the hands of people who pose a significant threat to themselves or to others. The first reform allows for a broader use of Clear and Present Danger Rule reports, which is a policy that allows ISP to revoke or deny a Firearm Owners Identification Card (FOID) to those who are deemed a risk to themselves or to others. The action was taken following the July 4, 2022 shooting in Highland Park that killed seven and wounded dozens of other people. “When determining whether to issue or revoke a FOID card, it is imperative ISP has as much information and evidence as possible,” said ISP Director Brendan F. Kelly. “Updates to this administrative rule will strengthen ISP’s ability to keep firearms out of the hands of dangerous individuals.” Before the update, administrative rules required that a person’s clear and present danger had to be “impending,” or “imminent." It also required “physical or verbal behavior, such as violent, suicidal, or assaultive threats, actions, or other behavior," according to ISP. The second change recently approved by the Commission on Implementing the Firearms Restraining Order Act puts a model policy in place to provide an overall framework law enforcement can follow to secure and execute a Firearms Restraining Order (FRO). The model policy addresses procedures for law enforcement in the following areas among others: Petitioning for a FRO (either emergency or six-month) Serving a FRO issued by the court Securing firearms, ammunition, and firearm parts surrendered by subject of the FRO Executing a FRO search warrant Returning firearms, ammunition, or firearm parts Attending court hearings Training Each Illinois law enforcement agency may make small modifications to the policy but must adopt a policy that aligns with the model, ISP said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IH8IL Posted November 24, 2022 at 06:09 AM Share Posted November 24, 2022 at 06:09 AM How is any of that legal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmyers Posted November 24, 2022 at 12:15 PM Share Posted November 24, 2022 at 12:15 PM Most of what Illinois does with guns are not legal, but it take years to fight anything in the courts. Sadly, it seems more often than not, the courts decide to punt it down the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoYouFeelLucky Posted November 24, 2022 at 04:41 PM Share Posted November 24, 2022 at 04:41 PM Keeping firearms out of the hands of temporarily or permanently mentally impaired persons is a good thing. Laws and administrative rulings like this are merely an admission that the people in charge are not smart enough to really solve the issue, or even make common sense moves towards a realistic goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragsbo Posted November 24, 2022 at 05:14 PM Share Posted November 24, 2022 at 05:14 PM On 11/24/2022 at 6:15 AM, bmyers said: Most of what Illinois does with guns are not legal, but it take years to fight anything in the courts. Sadly, it seems more often than not, the courts decide to punt it down the road. The reason they keep doing it is because even when they lose in court, nothing is done to hold them accountable for violating our constitutional rights. Anyone else on any other rights (such as using the wrong pronoun- not in the constitution by the way) would be drawn and quartered and boiled in organic vegetable oil. AND the courts need the same accountability Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragsbo Posted November 24, 2022 at 05:18 PM Share Posted November 24, 2022 at 05:18 PM On 11/24/2022 at 10:41 AM, DoYouFeelLucky said: Keeping firearms out of the hands of temporarily or permanently mentally impaired persons is a good thing. Laws and administrative rulings like this are merely an admission that the people in charge are not smart enough to really solve the issue, or even make common sense moves towards a realistic goal. I agree that would be a good thing- keep crazy folks away from guns. Problem is those powers that wanna be definition of "mentally ill " and "a danger". Just because you want to own a gun makes you nutts. Just because you don't want their version freedom makes you a danger. Just because you KNOW which bathroom to use and why makes you some kind of pervert. The idea sounds good, it is the details that kill you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoYouFeelLucky Posted November 24, 2022 at 05:57 PM Share Posted November 24, 2022 at 05:57 PM On 11/24/2022 at 11:18 AM, ragsbo said: I agree that would be a good thing- keep crazy folks away from guns. Problem is those powers that wanna be definition of "mentally ill " and "a danger". Just because you want to own a gun makes you nutts. Just because you don't want their version freedom makes you a danger. Just because you KNOW which bathroom to use and why makes you some kind of pervert. The idea sounds good, it is the details that kill you That is always the problem, as the tendency is for those in power to use that power to fit their agenda. And yet those in power never want to be held to the same standards that they force on others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joker Posted December 9, 2022 at 03:50 PM Share Posted December 9, 2022 at 03:50 PM They can now go back years and use incidents to revoke a FOID card, instead of the 72 hour thing It is happening, and to good people, and these people have to spend thousands of dollars to try and get their FOID's back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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