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I was born, raised and educated in Chicago.  We moved to Suburban Cook to raise our children. When we became empty nesters we moved to DuPage County but after a while the crime and  corruption followed us. After this last election I knew there was no hope for Illinois.  
 

Moving is a real hassle but being in a red state will make it worth while. 

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On 11/21/2022 at 6:46 PM, Lou said:

I was born, raised and educated in Chicago.  We moved to Suburban Cook to raise our children. When we became empty nesters we moved to DuPage County but after a while the crime and  corruption followed us. After this last election I knew there was no hope for Illinois.  
 

Moving is a real hassle but being in a red state will make it worth while. 

Good luck Lou for you and your family, it is a shame to lose another good person. enjoy your new home :)

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The feeling of being surrounded by a majority of like minded people cannot be measured. Not just a community, or area, but basically the whole state.  It was stunning to realize that conservatism in Illinois is not close to the conservatism of its southern neighbors. Pro gun liberals are an albino deer and there aren't enough plain liberals around to worry about what you say being considered non pc. God speed on your new home Lou.

 

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On 11/21/2022 at 6:46 PM, Lou said:

After this last election I knew there was no hope for Illinois.  

Surprised it took you long enough.

 

This state has been well screwed since long before I was even born but the 2018 gubernatorial election truly sealed it for me. This recent election further cemented it with morons re-electing a billionaire who directly profited from his own lockdown mandates. Yet “eat the rich” is the democrat party mantra and from his own constituents. Verifiable, certifiable f’ing morons.

 

Good on you for bolstering another red state. I moved north to help out purple WI and my local election at least kept Johnson in our district.

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Best of luck on the move and finding some peace in making the move out. I know I sleep better now in my purple state with a solid red house and senate. Total deadlock in the statehouse is outstanding. 

I was reading a story in the local paper. The school board took up a proposal to introduce some new program. They all wanted to vote for it, but one of them called out the catch. "what are we going to cut to make room in the budget because we all know taxes won't be going up and the people in the capitol won't pay for this."  That was outstanding.  

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Good luck to you Lou.  As a former Missourian, please keep a few things in mind.

The more "toys" you have (car, truck, motorcycle, atv, boat, etc.), the higher your "personal property tax" will be.

Missouri IS one of the states that taxes Social Security benefits.  Illinois does not.  Now that you are "empty nesters", that is something to keep in mind.

Stay safe.

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Missouri even has a tax on a farmer's chickens, if I recall, but it doesn't seem to have the folks heat a cauldron of tar.

But all that said, I posted earlier regarding Illinois property taxes.

One state taxes you ie 10K just for living in your house, every year. You know next year the tax may be $10,700, then $11,900, etc.

Another state may have a higher sales tax rate based on what you may, or may not buy via retail.

Which state would you choose?

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On 11/23/2022 at 11:16 AM, Nanook said:

Congratulations on moving the what's left of the old USA, Lou. 

 

I envy your move, and would join the exodus but my wife is reluctant to move. The moving process itself at our age is what causes it I think. 

 

It's certainly not any love for the garbage running this state. 

 

Age, alone, is not necessarily the determining factor. My wife and I are in our late 70s. We moved to Lake County, Indiana this year. We still see friends and family in DuPage County. It is a joint decision and there can be many other factors. 

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On 11/25/2022 at 9:46 AM, Quiet Observer said:

Age, alone, is not necessarily the determining factor. My wife and I are in our late 70s. We moved to Lake County, Indiana this year. We still see friends and family in DuPage County. It is a joint decision and there can be many other factors. 

The Wife and I are both Mid 70s and yes moving at any age is a REAL pain but more so when you are a seasoned citizen. 
It’s especially true when you have 23 years worth of accumulated “stuff” to sort through..

 

We used a real estate firm that specializes in seniors.  They packed up for us, arranged the movers and will clean up the old house after you move.  Then they market the old house.   There are several RE firms that specialize in seniors. Google is your friend. 

 

Of course you pay for the services but without the help we might have kept procrastinating.  
 

 

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On 11/23/2022 at 4:24 AM, GTX63 said:

Missouri even has a tax on a farmer's chickens, if I recall, but it doesn't seem to have the folks heat a cauldron of tar.

But all that said, I posted earlier regarding Illinois property taxes.

One state taxes you ie 10K just for living in your house, every year. You know next year the tax may be $10,700, then $11,900, etc.

Another state may have a higher sales tax rate based on what you may, or may not buy via retail.

Which state would you choose?

 

Go to "tax foundation . org" and look at their various maps.  I have been collecting their maps for about 6 years so I can get a timeline on various "taxing situations" (pun intended).  For some reason, the states of TN, LA, and AR always seem to be the top 3 of state mandated sales taxes.  They may rotate positions  as far as positions, but they are the top 3.

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On 12/9/2022 at 12:21 PM, gunflyr said:

Does Missouri and WI TAX  RETIREMENT accounts?  Illinois does not.

Sadly, Missouri does tax retirement income.  
 

it’s a tradeoff in many ways. Real estate taxes an Almost half and things like license plates are $30 instead of $158.    Gas is $271 and even cheaper at Costco and Sams. 

Just think how much cheaper  Constitutional Carry is compared to the price is an Illinois carry permit. 

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On 11/26/2022 at 8:20 PM, Lou said:

The Wife and I are both Mid 70s and yes moving at any age is a REAL pain but more so when you are a seasoned citizen. 
It’s especially true when you have 23 years worth of accumulated “stuff” to sort through..

 

We used a real estate firm that specializes in seniors.  They packed up for us, arranged the movers and will clean up the old house after you move.  Then they market the old house.   There are several RE firms that specialize in seniors. Google is your friend. 

 

Of course you pay for the services but without the help we might have kept procrastinating.  
 

 

That is interesting, Lou. I had never thought to look for something like that. Thanks for the tip. Now, if I can convince the wife, I can view IL the way it deserves to be seen. 

Through the rear view mirror as you're driving to freedom. 

 

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On 12/10/2022 at 1:54 PM, John Q Public said:

Maybe you should stop at the border and drop your drawers, you are going to the. "Show Me," state after all. :)

 

I'd be right there with you if I could, I have a old parent I look after, so I'm stuck here for now. 

 

Be safe Lou

 

JQ

 

Ditto !  There are probably quite a few of us like that.

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