AlphaKoncepts aka CGS Posted November 16, 2022 at 03:14 PM Share Posted November 16, 2022 at 03:14 PM An email I received from the ISP... This message is to notify you that, after reviewing our records, we believe you possess separate Firearm Owner’s Identification (FOID) and Concealed Carry License (CCL) cards. All who receive this message should have valid FOIDs. As a result of P.A. 102-237, individuals with a valid Concealed Carry License had their FOID expiration date extended to match the expiration of their CCL or their FOID automatically renewed along with their CCL renewal. Regardless, some of you may possess a FOID that – although valid – appears expired on its face. We understand the uncertainty this can cause. Therefore, we are beginning to distribute replacement combined FOID/CCL cards. Expect to see yours in the coming days. We hope you will find this helpful. Note that this new, single, combination card is not a renewal, but a replacement for your current cards. Once you receive it, simply destroy your old cards. We will continue to send renewal notices for FOIDs and CCLs 180 days prior to their expiration Thank you Illinois State Police Firearms Services Bureau Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou Posted November 16, 2022 at 04:51 PM Share Posted November 16, 2022 at 04:51 PM I got the same letter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RANDY Posted November 16, 2022 at 05:18 PM Share Posted November 16, 2022 at 05:18 PM Same for me yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundguy Posted November 17, 2022 at 01:47 AM Share Posted November 17, 2022 at 01:47 AM Me too… posted my concerns in the wrong thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedWrangler Posted November 20, 2022 at 08:29 PM Share Posted November 20, 2022 at 08:29 PM I just today realized that my FOID expires on New Year's Day, 40ish days from now, and I've heard nothing from ISP about renewing. I am hopeful that since my CCL has another year and a half to go this means that my FOID is 'auto renewing' to the CCL date, but I didn't get the recently mentioned ISP email, either.... Nor did I get the combined CCL/FOID that was talked about a year ago. This MUST be Illinois!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euler Posted November 20, 2022 at 09:06 PM Share Posted November 20, 2022 at 09:06 PM On 11/20/2022 at 3:29 PM, RedWrangler said: ... I am hopeful that since my CCL has another year and a half to go this means that my FOID is 'auto renewing' to the CCL date, but I didn't get the recently mentioned ISP email, either... You can check on the ISP website, but your FOID has almost certainly been extended. I leave a small chance for bureaucratic mismanagement and technical glitches, although I haven't heard of any myself regarding expiration dates. There's the normal amount of bureaucratic mismanagement and technical glitches covering everything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCroskey Posted November 20, 2022 at 10:16 PM Share Posted November 20, 2022 at 10:16 PM Interesting. I renewed both my FOID and CCL in 2021, they did not send me the combined ID then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euler Posted November 20, 2022 at 10:41 PM Share Posted November 20, 2022 at 10:41 PM On 11/20/2022 at 5:16 PM, McCroskey said: Interesting. I renewed both my FOID and CCL in 2021, they did not send me the combined ID then. The combined FOID/CCL didn't start until January 2022. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilphil Posted November 20, 2022 at 10:43 PM Share Posted November 20, 2022 at 10:43 PM I renewed my FOID late last year. Supposedly for 10 years. My CCL expires next year. In the unlikely event of me deciding not to renew my CCL, when does my FOID expire? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euler Posted November 20, 2022 at 10:58 PM Share Posted November 20, 2022 at 10:58 PM On 11/20/2022 at 5:43 PM, ilphil said: I renewed my FOID late last year. Supposedly for 10 years. My CCL expires next year. In the unlikely event of me deciding not to renew my CCL, when does my FOID expire? If you don't renew your CCL, your FOID expires on the date printed on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilguy Posted November 21, 2022 at 11:51 PM Share Posted November 21, 2022 at 11:51 PM I totally, unexpectedly got my combined card today. FOID expired 11/01/22, CCL expiration date was 12/11/23. Just checked my FSB dash board and the dates are both 12/11/23. The change came after I checked the site the first of the month. I never got a letter. How does the renewal work next December? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euler Posted November 22, 2022 at 12:00 AM Share Posted November 22, 2022 at 12:00 AM On 11/21/2022 at 6:51 PM, lilguy said: I totally, unexpectedly got my combined card today. FOID expired 11/01/22, CCL expiration date was 12/11/23. Just checked my FSB dash board and the dates are both 12/11/23. The change came after I checked the site the first of the month. I never got a letter. How does the renewal work next December? Take a CCL renewal class. Go online. Upload your cert and pay the man for a new CCL. (FOID is included for "free.") Wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou Posted November 22, 2022 at 12:27 AM Share Posted November 22, 2022 at 12:27 AM I got mine in the mail today and will be a resident of Missouri y sundown tomorrow. At least it will be valid for the next 24 hours. 🥸 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilguy Posted November 22, 2022 at 12:34 AM Share Posted November 22, 2022 at 12:34 AM Thanks Euler, do I have to wait to renew, watch dashboard for notice? Congrats on the move, send us a card when you reach freedom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou Posted November 22, 2022 at 12:49 AM Share Posted November 22, 2022 at 12:49 AM On 11/21/2022 at 6:34 PM, lilguy said: Thanks Euler, do I have to wait to renew, watch dashboard for notice? Congrats on the move, send us a card when you reach freedom. Will do. After this last election there is no hope for illinos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euler Posted November 22, 2022 at 01:57 AM Share Posted November 22, 2022 at 01:57 AM On 11/21/2022 at 7:34 PM, lilguy said: Thanks Euler, do I have to wait to renew, watch dashboard for notice? ... You can't renew before 180 days before expiration. You should get a notice by email, text, USPS, or whatever notification options you have selected. (I got text and email within a day, USPS a month later.) You should be able to renew even if you don't get a notice. Unless you expect to have difficulty renewing (like you moved, changed your name, etc.), there's no special hurry within the 180-day window. Also with the COVID emergency rules still in effect, there's no special hurry after the expiration, either, but you probably shouldn't rely on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilphil Posted November 22, 2022 at 03:20 AM Share Posted November 22, 2022 at 03:20 AM On 11/20/2022 at 4:58 PM, Euler said: If you don't renew your CCL, your FOID expires on the date printed on it. There is no expiration date printed on my FOID. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euler Posted November 22, 2022 at 03:56 AM Share Posted November 22, 2022 at 03:56 AM On 11/21/2022 at 10:20 PM, ilphil said: There is no expiration date printed on my FOID. Then you have a new (2022) FOID. It expires on the date specified online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilguy Posted November 22, 2022 at 04:45 AM Share Posted November 22, 2022 at 04:45 AM That’s correct, go to your FSB dashboard and the dates there. My new combined card is not dated. What is the 18 digit AL: xxxxxxxxxxxx number for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euler Posted November 22, 2022 at 04:50 AM Share Posted November 22, 2022 at 04:50 AM On 11/21/2022 at 11:45 PM, lilguy said: ... What is the 18 digit AL: xxxxxxxxxxxx number for? It's essentially a batch number. Maybe it could be used to help the ISP detect counterfeits. The "security" features on the card are really not well-designed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cola490 Posted November 22, 2022 at 08:37 AM Share Posted November 22, 2022 at 08:37 AM Couple questions, with no experiation date on the new FOID/CCL card, do retailers need to check online at the ISP site to verify if they are good? How far in advance of experiation can you take the renewal class? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim123 Posted November 22, 2022 at 02:27 PM Share Posted November 22, 2022 at 02:27 PM My foid expires in 2031. Ccl exp next year. Are they gonna gyp me out of all those years left on the foid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallbore Posted November 22, 2022 at 02:33 PM Share Posted November 22, 2022 at 02:33 PM On 11/22/2022 at 8:27 AM, jim123 said: My foid expires in 2031. Ccl exp next year. Are they gonna gyp me out of all those years left on the foid? Shouldn't but this Illinois. My card is good till 2028. I will keep it to use for out of state ammo purchase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euler Posted November 22, 2022 at 07:10 PM Share Posted November 22, 2022 at 07:10 PM On 11/22/2022 at 3:37 AM, cola490 said: Couple questions, with no experiation date on the new FOID/CCL card, do retailers need to check online at the ISP site to verify if they are good? How far in advance of experiation can you take the renewal class? Retailers need to use the ISP site. Training certs never expire, but you can only use each one once, and sometimes they change design. On 11/22/2022 at 9:27 AM, jim123 said: My foid expires in 2031. Ccl exp next year. Are they gonna gyp me out of all those years left on the foid? No. Even though there's only one card, there are still two expiration dates (which in some cases may be the same). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim123 Posted November 23, 2022 at 03:56 AM Share Posted November 23, 2022 at 03:56 AM Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilguy Posted November 24, 2022 at 12:11 PM Share Posted November 24, 2022 at 12:11 PM Has anyone tried to order out of state and used the new undated FOID? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Q Public Posted November 24, 2022 at 09:41 PM Share Posted November 24, 2022 at 09:41 PM (edited) Yes, I asked the question of students with the updated cards and a few responded that they were asked to upload a picture of the card and the ammo was shipped with no issues. That's not to say there won't be any on the future, I think this is a huge mistake. (no dates) Edited November 24, 2022 at 09:45 PM by John Q Public Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmart Posted November 25, 2022 at 03:33 PM Share Posted November 25, 2022 at 03:33 PM But it's not a mistake, it's a feature Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpperAtmosphere Posted December 1, 2022 at 08:13 PM Share Posted December 1, 2022 at 08:13 PM I received my combined card out of the blue today, along with a letter explaining what it is and why they sent it. No dates on it is a little disturbing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Q Public Posted December 1, 2022 at 10:46 PM Share Posted December 1, 2022 at 10:46 PM The no date does have one plus, in my book... That is when you go to another state, and couldn't get your renewed card on time, it won't show as expired on the card. I know, police, in other states, should be able to call it in, but that's another beast. I do not like no date, in case anyone hasn't read my opposition to it.. JQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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