r4ndy Posted September 28, 2022 at 12:29 PM Share Posted September 28, 2022 at 12:29 PM Looking to sell a lower to a friend in WI and I live in IL. Is there a legal way to do this without involving an FFL (aka extra cost, time and effort). I thought IL residents could buy long guns in WI, not sure if the reverse applies and if this can be done via private sale and if a stripped lower would qualify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdDinIL Posted September 28, 2022 at 12:50 PM Share Posted September 28, 2022 at 12:50 PM I'm 99% sure you'll have to go through your friend's FFL to transfer it. Stripped lowers are not considered to be long guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rilo Posted September 28, 2022 at 12:50 PM Share Posted September 28, 2022 at 12:50 PM Nope no way. Only go can transfer long gun to resident of another state. I just double checked this recently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r4ndy Posted September 28, 2022 at 01:14 PM Author Share Posted September 28, 2022 at 01:14 PM Thanks for the responses folks. I figured this would be the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdDinIL Posted September 28, 2022 at 08:23 PM Share Posted September 28, 2022 at 08:23 PM If your friend is looking to purchase a lower receiver, check out local gun stores (or maybe even Cabela's in Germantown?) to see if they have them for sale. Maybe Mills Fleet Farm has them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rl_lp2 Posted September 29, 2022 at 08:54 PM Share Posted September 29, 2022 at 08:54 PM Play it safe, intrastate commerce is federal territory. I would go through FFL if I were you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiliconSorcerer Posted November 2, 2022 at 05:58 PM Share Posted November 2, 2022 at 05:58 PM It's absolutely legal to sell a lower or long gun to someone in a adjoining state, any state laws like FOID if it was coming this was apply but it must be done face to face. I'm sure you can find this on the ATF site someplace. P.S. and I'm 100% confident on this answer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euler Posted November 2, 2022 at 07:47 PM Share Posted November 2, 2022 at 07:47 PM On 11/2/2022 at 1:58 PM, SiliconSorcerer said: It's absolutely legal to sell a lower or long gun to someone in a adjoining state, any state laws like FOID if it was coming this was apply but it must be done face to face. I'm sure you can find this on the ATF site someplace. P.S. and I'm 100% confident on this answer! FFLs can buy/sell firearms from/to unlicensed individuals across state lines (under certain conditions, notably long guns), but unlicensed individuals cannot buy/sell across state lines from/to other unlicensed individuals, even long guns. 18 U.S.C 922 said: (a) It shall be unlawful -- ... (5) for any person (other than a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector) to transfer, sell, trade, give, transport, or deliver any firearm to any person (other than a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector) who the transferor knows or has reasonable cause to believe does not reside in (or if the person is a corporation or other business entity, does not maintain a place of business in) the State in which the transferor resides ... ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiliconSorcerer Posted November 2, 2022 at 07:54 PM Share Posted November 2, 2022 at 07:54 PM On 11/2/2022 at 2:47 PM, Euler said: FFLs can buy/sell firearms from/to unlicensed individuals across state lines (under certain conditions, notably long guns), but unlicensed individuals cannot buy/sell across state lines from/to other unlicensed individuals, even long guns. That's absolutely NOT true for a long gun, it has to be face to face and follow all applicable state laws. I've read the specifics somewhere before and it stuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euler Posted November 2, 2022 at 07:57 PM Share Posted November 2, 2022 at 07:57 PM On 11/2/2022 at 3:54 PM, SiliconSorcerer said: That's absolutely NOT true for a long gun, it has to be face to face and follow all applicable state laws. I've read the specifics somewhere before and it stuck. 18 U.S.C 922 is federal law. No state law or personal whim overrides federal law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiliconSorcerer Posted November 2, 2022 at 08:04 PM Share Posted November 2, 2022 at 08:04 PM On 11/2/2022 at 2:57 PM, Euler said: 18 U.S.C 922 is federal law. No state law or personal whim overrides federal law. This seems to also say a FFL in Indiana can't sell a long gun to a private resident in Illinois. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euler Posted November 2, 2022 at 08:19 PM Share Posted November 2, 2022 at 08:19 PM On 11/2/2022 at 4:04 PM, SiliconSorcerer said: This seems to also say a FFL in Indiana can't sell a long gun to a private resident in Illinois. No, it says a person who is not an FFL cannot sell any firearm to a private individual across state lines. "... any person (other than a licensed ...) ... to any person (other than a licensed ...) ..." means unlicensed individual to unlicensed individual. I didn't quote the paragraphs dealing with FFLs (licensed individuals), since those aren't relevant to this discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiliconSorcerer Posted November 3, 2022 at 03:21 PM Share Posted November 3, 2022 at 03:21 PM You win, but I may know a lot of people... 😮 Guess that's why people go fishing with rifles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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