sbennett3705 Posted August 25, 2022 at 11:43 AM Share Posted August 25, 2022 at 11:43 AM My physical FOID card shows expired but it's now actually running in parallel with my CCL card which expires in another two years. This is because I renewed my CCL mid-term with my FOID card's dates. I'm started to get questioned and declined by ranges and gun stores, even though I can show my valid CCL card. I even can show my on-line FOID portal which shows my FOID card is active. How do I get an accurately dated FOID card? The IL State portal does not offer this option unless I go down the route of a "lost card". But this requires an affidavit which I'm unwilling to complete since this would be a false claim. Calling IL State HQ does not good, no one will speak live. Any advice appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallbore Posted August 25, 2022 at 12:50 PM Share Posted August 25, 2022 at 12:50 PM New cards with expiration dates no longer exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbacs Posted August 25, 2022 at 04:21 PM Share Posted August 25, 2022 at 04:21 PM Did ur FOID expire? Did u apply for a new one? If you did you should have gotten a one card fits all FOID with CCL authorizations. we are our own worst enemy’s with the new cards and not carrying cards and the BS e-cards. It’s just a way to F with us here in Illinois. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euler Posted August 25, 2022 at 07:24 PM Share Posted August 25, 2022 at 07:24 PM The ranges and gun stores are wrong to deny you (or anyone else similar), but it might be a while before they figure it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanishjames Posted August 25, 2022 at 08:26 PM Share Posted August 25, 2022 at 08:26 PM Show them your current CCL, and nothing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captdan Posted August 25, 2022 at 09:07 PM Share Posted August 25, 2022 at 09:07 PM The FOID card and CCL are now a computer based system within the ISP data base. Any new card/cards you receive will have no expiration dates. All stores and ranges are now required to check the data base to sale you guns or ammo to determine validity. obviously those you are dealing with don't seem to be keeping up to date with all of the new procedures of ISP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbennett3705 Posted August 26, 2022 at 11:06 AM Author Share Posted August 26, 2022 at 11:06 AM Thanks to all for the advice. Since I apparently have the older card, how do I get the new, combined card without an expiry date? Again, there's no way to order one on the website unless I declare it lost (which I won't do). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallbore Posted August 26, 2022 at 12:04 PM Share Posted August 26, 2022 at 12:04 PM You have to wait your turn just like the rest of us. No cutting in line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captdan Posted August 26, 2022 at 01:39 PM Share Posted August 26, 2022 at 01:39 PM On 8/26/2022 at 6:06 AM, sbennett3705 said: Thanks to all for the advice. Since I apparently have the older card, how do I get the new, combined card without an expiry date? Again, there's no way to order one on the website unless I declare it lost (which I won't do). Unfortunately that is a problem that can't be fixed. They will catch up eventually and you will get the combo card. I know of no short cuts for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbennett3705 Posted August 29, 2022 at 01:08 PM Author Share Posted August 29, 2022 at 01:08 PM Thanks all. It's apparent the State Police view us as a nuisance.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallbore Posted August 29, 2022 at 01:44 PM Share Posted August 29, 2022 at 01:44 PM The ISP views the FOID and CCL card no differently then our IL drivers license. They consider the cards themselves meaningless. That is why they run the cards every time the public has contact with the police. The info on the cards make it easier for them to check up on us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captdan Posted September 2, 2022 at 04:39 PM Share Posted September 2, 2022 at 04:39 PM On 8/29/2022 at 8:44 AM, Smallbore said: The ISP views the FOID and CCL card no differently then our IL drivers license. They consider the cards themselves meaningless. That is why they run the cards every time the public has contact with the police. The info on the cards make it easier for them to check up on us. Correct! The reson for all this is to prevent those with a revoked or suspended Foid from purchasing ammo after the revocation. Several hundred people are running around with revoked FO ID and did not turn them in, Imagine ! As always, the law abiding are the ones who must pay the price. Price being major inconvenience in this case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grainderson Posted September 28, 2022 at 04:27 PM Share Posted September 28, 2022 at 04:27 PM I have a new FOID card with no expiration date. I get that they want it validated online every time, but it seems that having the expiration date would just save sellers the trouble for the case when it's expired on the card. Also a good reference for the card owner so it's clear to them as well when they need to renew. My new driver's license has an expiration date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grainderson Posted September 28, 2022 at 04:32 PM Share Posted September 28, 2022 at 04:32 PM Nevermind, it's clear that since the cards are a bit of a convulated mess, there are cases where there are false positive expirations like with the OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euler Posted September 28, 2022 at 06:00 PM Share Posted September 28, 2022 at 06:00 PM On 9/28/2022 at 12:27 PM, grainderson said: I have a new FOID card with no expiration date. I get that they want it validated online every time, but it seems that having the expiration date would just save sellers the trouble for the case when it's expired on the card. Also a good reference for the card owner so it's clear to them as well when they need to renew. My new driver's license has an expiration date. Every time you look at it, you can remind yourself that having the same physical card forever and ever was the goal for which ISRA bargained away private transfers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennyg Posted October 8, 2022 at 06:24 PM Share Posted October 8, 2022 at 06:24 PM My wife just renewed her FOID 2 months ago (no CCL). The new one came back quickly with no expiration date. The card noted “CCL-NO” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springfield shooter Posted October 9, 2022 at 02:49 AM Share Posted October 9, 2022 at 02:49 AM On 9/28/2022 at 1:00 PM, Euler said: Every time you look at it, you can remind yourself that having the same physical card forever and ever was the goal for which ISRA bargained away private transfers. That would be the ISRA that I cancelled my membership with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papa Posted October 9, 2022 at 04:17 AM Share Posted October 9, 2022 at 04:17 AM On 10/8/2022 at 9:49 PM, springfield shooter said: That would be the ISRA that I cancelled my membership with. 👍 As did I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilguy Posted October 20, 2022 at 11:56 AM Share Posted October 20, 2022 at 11:56 AM Im a lifer, but no longer send money during the year. i haven’t resigned because I want to keep up on what they are doing/not doing on our behalf. iC get my donations now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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