gunuser17 Posted February 9, 2023 at 04:22 AM Share Posted February 9, 2023 at 04:22 AM (edited) Look at it this way, at the start of a trial, a lawyer may have 1,000 documents on their exhibit list because they throw everything they might use on the list. By the time the trial is over, they may only use 150 or fewer of those documents. Here the judge is saying that he knows they listed a huge number of laws on their spreadsheet list - but on which one are they actually relying - its time for the state to put their best cards on the table. Edited February 9, 2023 at 04:23 AM by gunuser17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upholder Posted February 12, 2023 at 10:22 PM Share Posted February 12, 2023 at 10:22 PM Plaintiff's Response Brief Re: Defendant's Historical Surveys Ordered by the Court: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.casd.642089/gov.uscourts.casd.642089.166.0.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted February 12, 2023 at 10:56 PM Share Posted February 12, 2023 at 10:56 PM On 2/12/2023 at 4:22 PM, Upholder said: Plaintiff's Response Brief Re: Defendant's Historical Surveys Ordered by the Court: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.casd.642089/gov.uscourts.casd.642089.166.0.pdf Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upholder Posted February 12, 2023 at 11:27 PM Share Posted February 12, 2023 at 11:27 PM Defendants' Brief in response to the Court's order entered on December 15, 2022: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.casd.642089/gov.uscourts.casd.642089.167.0.pdf In skimming the order, the defense is putting a lot of weight on weapons only suitable for "self-defense" which is not the test. The test is specifically "common use for lawful purposes such as self-defense", which is one example, not an exhaustive list like the defense would like the court to believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flynn Posted February 13, 2023 at 01:17 AM Share Posted February 13, 2023 at 01:17 AM On 2/12/2023 at 4:56 PM, steveTA84 said: Lol We need more of this, the states need to be shamed and condemned to no end and relentlessly for actions like this trying use a blatently unconstitutional law to justify another unconstitutional law. It's really too bad we don't have an honest MSM that would broadcast these type of antics to everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upholder Posted February 21, 2023 at 06:20 PM Share Posted February 21, 2023 at 06:20 PM Plaintiffs' response to Defendant's Brief: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.casd.642089/gov.uscourts.casd.642089.169.0.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upholder Posted February 22, 2023 at 04:17 PM Share Posted February 22, 2023 at 04:17 PM Defendant's Brief in Response to Plaintiffs' Brief Filed on February 10 2023: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.casd.642089/gov.uscourts.casd.642089.170.0.pdf Among other things, it cites the Bevis v Illinois ruling from the other day, the hilariously inaccurate Col Tucker declaration and the recent rulings relating to Oregon measure 114: Quote A prohibition on the manufacture, sale, and possession of firearms defined as “assault weapons” under Section 30515 is “constitutionally sound” because these “particularly ‘dangerous’ weapons” are not in common use for self-defense. Bevis v. City of Naperville, Ill., 2023 WL 2077392, at *9 & n.8 (N.D. Ill. Feb. 17, 2023) (denying motion for preliminary injunction of Illinois’ assault weapons ban because “particularly ‘dangerous’ weapons are unprotected”). Rather, AR-platform rifles are extraordinarily lethal weapons and serve no legitimate self-defense purpose. See Echeverria Decl. (Dkt. 167-1), Ex. 2 (Col. Tucker Decl.) ¶¶ 13–22. Indeed, they are “like” the M16 or M4 and “may be banned.” E.g., Oregon Firearms, 2022 WL 17454829, at *10-11 & n.13 (same as to large-capacity magazines).5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springfield shooter Posted February 22, 2023 at 06:16 PM Share Posted February 22, 2023 at 06:16 PM On 2/22/2023 at 10:17 AM, Upholder said: Defendant's Brief in Response to Plaintiffs' Brief Filed on February 10 2023: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.casd.642089/gov.uscourts.casd.642089.170.0.pdf Among other things, it cites the Bevis v Illinois ruling from the other day, the hilariously inaccurate Col Tucker declaration and the recent rulings relating to Oregon measure 114: From what little I've read about him, I don't think the Hon. Roger T. Benitez will be impressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davel501 Posted April 16, 2023 at 05:42 PM Share Posted April 16, 2023 at 05:42 PM 🍿 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flynn Posted April 18, 2023 at 07:49 AM Share Posted April 18, 2023 at 07:49 AM If it goes down like that video predicts that is some next level trolling! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davel501 Posted April 19, 2023 at 11:35 PM Share Posted April 19, 2023 at 11:35 PM For those keeping track: Assault weapons sales ban passes Washington state Legislature (axios.com) Everything is on track for the bill to be signed tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTHunter Posted April 20, 2023 at 11:59 PM Share Posted April 20, 2023 at 11:59 PM On 4/19/2023 at 6:35 PM, davel501 said: For those keeping track: Assault weapons sales ban passes Washington state Legislature (axios.com) Everything is on track for the bill to be signed tomorrow. Okay, it is 7 p.m. CT on the 20th. What happened with 1240 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davel501 Posted April 21, 2023 at 12:16 AM Share Posted April 21, 2023 at 12:16 AM On 4/20/2023 at 6:59 PM, JTHunter said: Okay, it is 7 p.m. CT on the 20th. What happened with 1240 ? Been waiting all day for news that Inslee signed it. Doesn't seem to have signed it yet for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upholder Posted April 21, 2023 at 12:36 AM Share Posted April 21, 2023 at 12:36 AM On 4/20/2023 at 7:16 PM, davel501 said: Been waiting all day for news that Inslee signed it. Doesn't seem to have signed it yet for some reason. Reports from Washington Gun Law are that he will not sign it this week, expectations are now 4/27 or 4/28. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davel501 Posted May 19, 2023 at 03:38 PM Share Posted May 19, 2023 at 03:38 PM I wonder how much longer they are going to work on this ruling. We are solidly in that 3-4 month range at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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