Molly B. Posted July 13, 2022 at 07:11 PM Posted July 13, 2022 at 07:11 PM https://townhall.com/podcasts/camandco/2022/07/13/fl-democrat-cites-bruen-in-challenge-to-federal-ban-on-guns-and-weed-n2610195 FL Democrat Cites Bruen in Challenge to Federal Ban on Guns and Weed By Townhall Media | Posted: Jul 13, 2022 2:39 PM Florida Agriculture Commissioner Nikki Fried's lawsuit challenging the federal government's prohibition on gun ownership for medical marijuana laws looks to be motivated at least in part by politics, but that doesn't mean the case itself is without merit.
Dumak_from_arfcom Posted July 13, 2022 at 07:30 PM Posted July 13, 2022 at 07:30 PM A few people have commented that we need to present solid cases citing Bruen and not just throw a bunch of crud at the courts. This is one of those times in which I would be very concerned that someone is going to throw a garbage lawsuit forward in order to set negative precedent for us. All of my Florida friends say that she is horribly partisan.
MrTriple Posted July 13, 2022 at 08:09 PM Posted July 13, 2022 at 08:09 PM I'm wondering if she's doing this for her gubernatorial bid. Gin up support amongst those supporting legalization while negating any accusation that she may be anti-gun by virtue of being a Democrat.
yurimodin Posted July 18, 2022 at 05:23 PM Posted July 18, 2022 at 05:23 PM Federal legalization needs to happen already. Govt can't seem to just admit they were wrong about a simple plant for the last 100 years
SiliconSorcerer Posted July 18, 2022 at 06:23 PM Posted July 18, 2022 at 06:23 PM On 7/18/2022 at 12:23 PM, yurimodin said: Federal legalization needs to happen already. Govt can't seem to just admit they were wrong about a simple plant for the last 100 years There's a lot of "simple" plants, Oregon for example has found out the hard way. Well unless you like ethnic cleaning.
Flynn Posted July 18, 2022 at 07:03 PM Posted July 18, 2022 at 07:03 PM On 7/18/2022 at 12:23 PM, yurimodin said: Federal legalization needs to happen already. Govt can't seem to just admit they were wrong about a simple plant for the last 100 years I personally think the 'simple plant' argument is a slippery slope... I'm not against it myself (I don't think plant should be outlawed) but I'm betting many that use the 'simple plant' argument for marijuana don't feel the same about poppies and the opium in raw form or refined heroin, morphine, codeine that can be extracted/refined from said simple plant.
kingc Posted July 18, 2022 at 07:25 PM Posted July 18, 2022 at 07:25 PM Ms Fried is no different than any other Marxist Leninist democrat. It was always smooth sailing getting/renewing FL ccw license, until Ms Fried took over that dept. Her stunt here is no different than one of her fellow Marxists coming out of a corn field with a double barrel over their shoulder seeking election support. Nothing to see here!
SiliconSorcerer Posted July 18, 2022 at 08:15 PM Posted July 18, 2022 at 08:15 PM On 7/18/2022 at 2:03 PM, Flynn said: I personally think the 'simple plant' argument is a slippery slope... I'm not against it myself (I don't think plant should be outlawed) but I'm betting many that use the 'simple plant' argument for marijuana don't feel the same about poppies and the opium in raw form or refined heroin, morphine, codeine that can be extracted/refined from said simple plant. I'm like .03% of the population that's opioid immune, I could shoot heroin, never have but I have dealt with an addict it's a very difficult problem. Cannabis and Fentanyl do relieve pain (but are horrible to manage) so I understand Medical use of any drug, however the recreational use doesn't quite sit well dealing with an addict who now can use the "but it's legal" argument. They are no longer an addict but it was 8 years of heck.
Jeffrey Posted July 18, 2022 at 08:43 PM Posted July 18, 2022 at 08:43 PM An addict is going to be an addict for as long as they want to. Just like gun laws, drug laws, immigration laws, they aren't working. Mostly because those who are there to enforce them, aren't there. They should ALL be legal to use. If you choose to, you are also responsible for what you do after. I know, What the hey!!! is with this personal responsibility BS Jeffrey is spewing? Isn't that all we keep asking for related to our pages here?
yurimodin Posted July 19, 2022 at 07:22 PM Posted July 19, 2022 at 07:22 PM On 7/18/2022 at 2:03 PM, Flynn said: I personally think the 'simple plant' argument is a slippery slope... I'm not against it myself (I don't think plant should be outlawed) but I'm betting many that use the 'simple plant' argument for marijuana don't feel the same about poppies and the opium in raw form or refined heroin, morphine, codeine that can be extracted/refined from said simple plant. The law can and has distinguished between natural form vs refined concentrates. I will tell you though that with cannabis nothing comes close to edibles. When your body processes the edible it becomes 11 times more psychoactive than smoking. I have taken too much edible by mistake and for lack of a better term "tripped balls" on it. No part of that experience made me think people who use it should be denied the right to self defense. What I can tell you is that as someone who used to go through a handle of bourbon a week is that the booze is 100x worse for your health. Hangovers, fear of DT's, racing heart rates, organ damage, its awful for you. With weed, a big ol fat joint every night before bed and I sleep like a baby with no hangover, no blacking out, ZERO cravings. 99% of people's fear of the plant is from Nixon and Reagan propaganda. Oh and never once have I thought "boy this weed just isn't strong enough, I should try heroine now".
yurimodin Posted July 19, 2022 at 07:25 PM Posted July 19, 2022 at 07:25 PM On 7/18/2022 at 1:23 PM, SiliconSorcerer said: There's a lot of "simple" plants, Oregon for example has found out the hard way. Well unless you like ethnic cleaning. ethnic cleaning?
Flynn Posted July 19, 2022 at 09:12 PM Posted July 19, 2022 at 09:12 PM On 7/19/2022 at 2:22 PM, yurimodin said: The law can and has distinguished between natural form vs refined concentrates. Opium is as natural of a form as dried buds, so my slipperly slope still applies, it's just a simple plant, but as expected one is hessitant to apply the same 'simple plant' arguement. And if one is allowed to 'purify' marijuna into THC edibles, THC crystals, THC vaping concentrate and what not because it's from a 'simple plant' then it would be silly to argue the opium could not be purified into morphine and codiene using the same 'simple plant' argument. Quote I will tell you though that with cannabis nothing comes close to edibles. Yes, the same thing taken different ways effects you differently, that applies to most drugs.
yurimodin Posted July 20, 2022 at 04:35 PM Posted July 20, 2022 at 04:35 PM Irregardless, there is certainly enough medical evidence now from Canada & Israel that "Schedule 1: No medical benefit" is completely inappropriate.
Flynn Posted July 22, 2022 at 05:29 PM Posted July 22, 2022 at 05:29 PM On 7/20/2022 at 11:35 AM, yurimodin said: Irregardless, there is certainly enough medical evidence now from Canada & Israel that "Schedule 1: No medical benefit" is completely inappropriate. It's always been inappropriate, they literaly admitted it in their own anti-use paperwork with things like saying it causes drowsiness aka it's sleep aid or depresant or the long standing it gives you munchies aka it's an appetite stimulant, it's been clear by their own admissions that it had medical benefits all along, but they didn't care about that because they wanted to exert control over the people, espeically the people of color and minorities and make them criminals. Pretty much the exact same reasoning they used to outlaw opium as well.
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