Todd V sues Cook County (class action) for reinstating gun/ammo tax

[rmart]

Always hope in Jesus

 

[Plinkermostly]

Amen!

 

But keep the ammo dry.

[THE KING]

This just in. 

 

 

[GunCollector]

@THE KING Thanks for posting.  I think FBD is a great podcast.  I didn't know there is constitutional protections on taxation - very interesting.   However, I have always considered the economic burden of owning firearms as the most effective method of firearms control.  Despite these apparent and obvious unconstitutional taxes, we have had them in cook county for years.  I think it is 10c per round and why I never by ammo in cook county - which is what they want.  However, I thought the FEES approach is the direction the government will go, increase fees for FOID, increase NICS fee, Increase AWB administration fee, introduce firearm storage requirements, Fee to inspect storage compliance, etc.  No impingement on the 2A RTK&BA, but the average joe can't afford to K&BA.   I don't know why the FEDS haven't gone down this path more fully.  Thanks Todd V. for another good fight!

[John Q Public]

Should also apply to CCL processing as they had millions in surplus. Since it's a fee, it should only be for the amount it costs. It's well over that.

[Tvandermyde]

Orals today. I think they went well as my guess is they remand saying GSL-1 is not good law.

 

 

https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/#audioModal

[cbunt32]

Maybe it was low expectations but I was pleasantly surprised by the questions asked. Definitely sounded like they were inclined to remand. 

[Molly B.]

I think this went well. Thanks for posting,  Todd.

[GunCollector]

that was exciting.  Todd's attorney was excellent.   Well done and thank you.

[Flynn]

 

[top_notch]

Will I get my money back?

[Flynn]

On 1/24/2024 at 7:16 PM, top_notch said:

Will I get my money back?

 

I would expect if Todd prevails, yes there should be a mechanism put in place for you to file for the return of your money that was illegally collected...  Or else you could sue Cook County in small claims court...

Edited January 25, 2024 at 01:31 AM by Flynn

[mab22]

On 1/24/2024 at 7:31 PM, Flynn said:

 

I would expect if Todd prevails, yes there should be a mechanism put in place for you to file for the return of your money that was illegally collected...  Or else you could sue Cook County in small claims court...

They don’t show, you win! 
Now you just have to figure out how to collect!
EZ. PZ 😱

Edited January 25, 2024 at 01:47 AM by mab22

[Tvandermyde]

 

[Flynn]

Good to hear you are back on track, but I fear if history is any indicator they will be too clever by half and re-author the law to be a "fee" forcing a likely reboot of litigation...

[ealcala31]

On 2/20/2024 at 9:54 PM, Flynn said:

Good to hear you are back on track, but I fear if history is any indicator they will be too clever by half and re-author the law to be a "fee" forcing a likely reboot of litigation...

I could see Cook County doing that, but I would love to read the new "fee" law. Cook County is not needed at all to help facilitate the sale of firearms or ammunition. So, what fee is needed.

[TomKoz]

On 2/20/2024 at 10:51 PM, ealcala31 said:

I could see Cook County doing that, but I would love to read the new "fee" law. Cook County is not needed at all to help facilitate the sale of firearms or ammunition. So, what fee is needed.

Does Cook County license the stores?

if so here is the how….

Nope.  Not going to give them any ideas !

 

[ealcala31]

On 2/21/2024 at 6:35 AM, TomKoz said:

Does Cook County license the stores?

if so here is the how….

Nope.  Not going to give them any ideas !

 

I conduct business in Oak Lawn, they are home-rule. But, all counties charge for your business license. There's another lawsuit. In one of Mark Smith's podcast, he said a plaintiff one a lawsuit on marriage certificate "taxes." The IL Supreme Court is going to eventually here this case. They have to bar Cook County from making up "fees." I doubt they will do that...

[mab22]

On 2/21/2024 at 10:17 PM, ealcala31 said:

I conduct business in Oak Lawn, they are home-rule. But, all counties charge for your business license. There's another lawsuit. In one of Mark Smith's podcast, he said a plaintiff one a lawsuit on marriage certificate "taxes." The IL Supreme Court is going to eventually here this case. They have to bar Cook County from making up "fees." I doubt they will do that...

The state could stop  Crook County if it wanted too.

[2A4Cook]

The state is run and controlled by Crook County/Chitcago.  Why would it want to?

[Octane]

On 2/22/2024 at 1:47 PM, 2A4Cook said:

The state is run and controlled by Crook County/Chitcago.  Why would it want to?

Its just funny that Chicago's interesting laws are affecting the entirety of the state. We dont let them enforce any car mod laws elsewhere so why should we let them take over laws for other ****?

[soundguy]

Home rule.

Chicago has it.

Cook County is the only county that has it.

 

Home rule should have been limited to taxation.

 

Cheers,

Tim

[JTHunter]

On 2/23/2024 at 6:35 PM, soundguy said:

Home rule.

Chicago has it.

Cook County is the only county that has it.

 

Home rule should have been limited to taxation.

 

Cheers,

Tim

 

Special treatment for "cronies".

[Upholder]

 

[mab22]

So the case moves forward now?

 

[Tvandermyde]

yes we now get to argue Bruen infront of the judge and the cook has to defend it based upon that

[Tvandermyde]

The Wheels of justice turn slowly, but they do turn

I could not find another thread on this so if I missed it feel free to merge or paste this in there

 

 

 

 

 

[mauserme]

On 2/20/2026 at 5:42 PM, Tvandermyde said:

The Wheels of justice turn slowly, but they do turn

I could not find another thread on this so if I missed it feel free to merge or paste this in there

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's been merged into this existing thread. 

 

 

[Euler]

I can see the image if I click on it, but it doesn't embed for me. Also, just in case X/Twitter ever dies, I've OCR'd it below.

Order said:

IN THE CIRCUIT COURT OF COOK COUNTY, ILLINOIS
COUNTY DEPARTMENT, CHANCERY DIVISION

DONALD TODD VANDERMYDE, et al., Plaintiff(s),
v.
COOK COUNTY, ILLINOIS, et al., Defendant(s).

Case No: 2022CH05563

ORDER

THIS MATTER coming before the Court on Defendants' Motion to Dismiss Pursuant to 735 ILCS 5/2-619.1 and Plaintiffs' Motion for Sanctions, the Court being fully advised on the matter. It is hereby ordered:

1. For the reasons stated on the record and in the briefs, Defendant's motion brought pursuant to 735 ILCS 5/2-619.1 is DENIED.
2. For the reasons stated on the record and in the briefs, Plaintiff's Motion for Sanctions is also DENIED.
3. Defendants to answer the Amended Class Action Complaint within 28 dyas.^sic
4. This matter is set for status on March 23, 2026, at 9:30 a.m. via Zoom Teleconference (Meeting ID: 943 7767 4389; Passcode; 990847; Dial-in: (312) 626-6799).

Judge Eve N. Reilly
FEB 20 2026
Circuit Court-2122

Edited February 21, 2026 at 02:59 AM by Euler

[JamesW]

" status on March 23, 2026, "

 

Has anything happened?