mikew Posted April 16, 2022 at 04:59 PM Share Posted April 16, 2022 at 04:59 PM https://chicago.suntimes.com/2022/4/15/23025545/atf-gun-dealers-chucks-gun-shop-blythes-sport-westforth-alcohol-tobacco-firearms-david-chipman --------------- ending with: ----------------------- Chuck’s Gun Shop & Pistol Range topped the list from 1996 to 2000 with more than 2,000 traces — the most prolific crime gun seller in the nation. In 2017, it maintained its title, at least for the city of Chicago: The police recovered nearly 1,000 of the store’s guns between 2013 and 2016. Inspections data obtained by The Trace show since 2010, the ATF has found Chuck’s — which did not respond to a request for comment — guilty only of occasional clerical errors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoYouFeelLucky Posted April 16, 2022 at 11:31 PM Share Posted April 16, 2022 at 11:31 PM Sometimes you have to wonder about how they manipulated the data. It says "recovered" in 2013 to 2016, however it doesn't say when the guns were sold, or if the gun was recovered from the original buyer. If those guns were sold over the prior 20 year period (not sure how long Chuck's has been in business) then that's a different statistic, and then you have to factor in if that gun was legally sold by the original purchaser and now whoever possesses the gun had it confiscated by the police (and we would need a breakdown of why the police "recovered" the gun). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2A4Cook Posted April 17, 2022 at 12:07 AM Share Posted April 17, 2022 at 12:07 AM Straw purchases and thefts over 20 years. Gee, I wonder why they never seem to prosecute the straw purchasers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikew Posted April 17, 2022 at 01:26 AM Author Share Posted April 17, 2022 at 01:26 AM On 4/16/2022 at 6:31 PM, DoYouFeelLucky said: (not sure how long Chuck's has been in business) Chuck's was a long established operation by the time I first visited over 40 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobPistol Posted April 17, 2022 at 01:47 AM Share Posted April 17, 2022 at 01:47 AM On 4/16/2022 at 5:07 PM, 2A4Cook said: Straw purchases and thefts over 20 years. Gee, I wonder why they never seem to prosecute the straw purchasers? Because that would actually stop crimes done by thugs, meaning less need for police, and less need for government and that means less reason to raise taxes to get more money for cronies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IH8IL Posted April 19, 2022 at 07:08 PM Share Posted April 19, 2022 at 07:08 PM On 4/16/2022 at 8:47 PM, BobPistol said: Because that would actually stop crimes done by thugs, meaning less need for police, and less need for government and that means less reason to raise taxes to get more money for cronies. No, that means more reasons to pass more laws, you know, for your safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobPistol Posted April 20, 2022 at 07:46 PM Share Posted April 20, 2022 at 07:46 PM On 4/19/2022 at 12:08 PM, IH8IL said: No, that means more reasons to pass more laws, you know, for your safety. And more crony enrichment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mab22 Posted April 20, 2022 at 09:08 PM Share Posted April 20, 2022 at 09:08 PM On 4/16/2022 at 7:07 PM, 2A4Cook said: Straw purchases and thefts over 20 years. Gee, I wonder why they never seem to prosecute the straw purchasers? Cause the purchasers are victims of the straw purchase, and we can’t prosecute victims rite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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