Jeffrey Posted May 25, 2022 at 06:12 PM Share Posted May 25, 2022 at 06:12 PM A vote for Irvin is a vote for "I can't breath." Might as well vote for JB at that point, one in the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max503 Posted May 25, 2022 at 10:22 PM Share Posted May 25, 2022 at 10:22 PM If I had to vote today it would be for Irwin but I'm still listening.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2A4Cook Posted May 25, 2022 at 10:35 PM Share Posted May 25, 2022 at 10:35 PM On 5/25/2022 at 1:12 PM, Jeffrey said: A vote for Irvin is a vote for "I can't breath." Might as well vote for JB at that point, one in the same. Agreed. I'm personally going to hold my nose and vote for Bailey. Our choices (more like lack thereof), as usual, suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoYouFeelLucky Posted May 26, 2022 at 12:56 AM Share Posted May 26, 2022 at 12:56 AM Seeing as the IL DMV sends me nasty-grams about renewing my DL and updating insurance information for my vehicles, and the IL Dept of Revenue is demanding copies of my IL State tax returns for the last 3 years, even though I have not lived or worked in IL, I am coming over to vote. Who should I vote for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RECarry Posted May 26, 2022 at 02:07 AM Share Posted May 26, 2022 at 02:07 AM Bring many ineligible out of state friends to vote for Pritzker or Irwin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiliconSorcerer Posted May 26, 2022 at 12:40 PM Share Posted May 26, 2022 at 12:40 PM On 5/25/2022 at 9:07 PM, RECarry said: Bring many ineligible out of state friends to vote for Pritzker or Irwin. Are you being a smart a...? 🤣 I strongly fear if it's not that its Governor JB once again, presidential candidate in 2024 he'll probably wait a week or so after but I'm sure the button is ready to be pushed. People argued a lot about Beta vs VHS too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max503 Posted May 30, 2022 at 11:12 PM Share Posted May 30, 2022 at 11:12 PM Up until an hour ago my vote was for Irwin. But I just saw an ad with Baily in a picture with Trump. Anyone who will stand with Trump gets my vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flynn Posted May 31, 2022 at 01:03 AM Share Posted May 31, 2022 at 01:03 AM None, I refuse to declare party affiliation as a condition of voting... I'll cast my vote in the main election, be it for the nominated or another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illinois_buckeye Posted June 3, 2022 at 08:27 AM Share Posted June 3, 2022 at 08:27 AM On people standing with Trump, I got one of those texts bashing Mary Miller. I responded to it telling them a that I was voting for her due to Trump’s endorsement. No more replies. What was hilarious, if anyone uses RoboKiller, I am signed up on it, and if you get calls that are unwanted, you have bots that answer the phone. You can also go back and listen to the conversations. The other day I got a political call that my RoboKiller picked up and I didn’t see until later. The bot they got was Donald Trump. It was hilarious because the lady didn’t seem to realize who it was supposed to be. To fully appreciate it, these bots are smart enough to actually pause when you are talking to it so it can sound like you are talking to a real person. It kept them on the line almost 2 minutes before they hung up. The Trump bot was telling them things such as why did you call me, do you know who I am etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSDlady Posted June 3, 2022 at 12:48 PM Share Posted June 3, 2022 at 12:48 PM Link to the ABC7 Republican debate: https://abc7chicago.com/illinois-republican-governor-candidate-debate-il-gop-richard-ivin-darren-bailey/11915124/ I'm trying to decide between Bailey & Rabine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumak_from_arfcom Posted June 4, 2022 at 11:52 PM Share Posted June 4, 2022 at 11:52 PM I'm seeing a lot of anti-Bailey ads on chicago area TV paid for by the democrat governors association. "He stands with Trump and the 2nd amendment" /gasp I haven't seen a single one for any of the other Republican primary candidates. They are spending money to attack Bailey for a reason. I bet their internal polling data shows Jabba having the biggest challenge to his reelection coming from Bailey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flynn Posted June 5, 2022 at 03:16 AM Share Posted June 5, 2022 at 03:16 AM On 6/4/2022 at 6:52 PM, Dumak_from_arfcom said: I'm seeing a lot of anti-Bailey ads on chicago area TV paid for by the democrat governors association. There is an ad on Tubu (free streaming service) paid for by some other Democrat attacking Sam Yingling, he is a tried and true Illinois Democrat, but the ad attacks him for get this, voting for concealed carry 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springfield shooter Posted June 5, 2022 at 06:43 PM Share Posted June 5, 2022 at 06:43 PM We got a mailer yesterday from a Democrat Party outfit (can't remember the name), telling us that Darren Bailey is too conservative for IL. Now, that is likely true for Cook and perhaps the collar counties. Down here? They wasted their money sending it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tip Posted June 5, 2022 at 06:59 PM Share Posted June 5, 2022 at 06:59 PM On 6/5/2022 at 1:43 PM, springfield shooter said: We got a mailer yesterday from a Democrat Party outfit (can't remember the name), telling us that Darren Bailey is too conservative for IL. Now, that is likely true for Cook and perhaps the collar counties. Down here? They wasted their money sending it. Hmmm, and here though it was actually a mailer pointing out his strong points and urging us to vote for him. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mab22 Posted June 7, 2022 at 12:45 PM Share Posted June 7, 2022 at 12:45 PM On 6/5/2022 at 1:43 PM, springfield shooter said: We got a mailer yesterday from a Democrat Party outfit (can't remember the name), telling us that Darren Bailey is too conservative for IL. Now, that is likely true for Cook and perhaps the collar counties. Down here? They wasted their money sending it. Irvin keeps sending mailers, wasted money on me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger Posted June 7, 2022 at 09:28 PM Share Posted June 7, 2022 at 09:28 PM The anti-Bailey mailers I've seen have all been from Irvin. I've read that Pritzker and the democrats have already spent around $9 million trying to help Bailey become the GOP nominee. Reportedly, they are convinced that Bailey will be the easiest to beat and that Governor Pritzker personally wants to beat him in the election. I still think that Schimpf would be the best Governor; but am supporting Rabine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illinois_buckeye Posted June 8, 2022 at 05:36 AM Share Posted June 8, 2022 at 05:36 AM I keep seeing ads bashing Bailey. I figure if Bailey is getting attacked by Dems and other republicans in the state, he must be the right person for the job. Both sides wouldn’t attack him for no reason imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiliconSorcerer Posted June 8, 2022 at 12:01 PM Share Posted June 8, 2022 at 12:01 PM On 6/7/2022 at 4:28 PM, Ranger said: The anti-Bailey mailers I've seen have all been from Irvin. I've read that Pritzker and the democrats have already spent around $9 million trying to help Bailey become the GOP nominee. Reportedly, they are convinced that Bailey will be the easiest to beat and that Governor Pritzker personally wants to beat him in the election. I still think that Schimpf would be the best Governor; but am supporting Rabine. Unfortunately I think your right, the too conservative for Illinois ads makes me wonder just wonder what the heck is wrong with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windermere Posted June 8, 2022 at 01:29 PM Share Posted June 8, 2022 at 01:29 PM Didn’t Bailey get endorsements from dems? Didn’t he endorse Obama? Please correct me if I’m wrong. irvin did not denounce rioting in his own town. That’s an closeted Dem if I ever seen one. I’m leaning towards Rabine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vito Posted June 8, 2022 at 06:01 PM Author Share Posted June 8, 2022 at 06:01 PM A vote for any candidate that can't do well with at least some of the major ethnic groups in Cook County cannot win in the General election. Appearances matter, and looking at Bailey tells me that Pritzker could beat him easily. Irvin has a chance to capture a good share of the Black and maybe Latino vote as well as traditional Republicans. He may not be the perfect Republican, but anything has to be better than keeping control of the state in Democrat Party hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Posted June 8, 2022 at 06:21 PM Share Posted June 8, 2022 at 06:21 PM A vote for Irvin is a vote for democrats. He is completely the Madigan plant to help throw off the republican party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flynn Posted June 8, 2022 at 08:13 PM Share Posted June 8, 2022 at 08:13 PM On 6/8/2022 at 1:01 PM, vito said: He may not be the perfect Republican, but anything has to be better than keeping control of the state in Democrat Party hands. As long as the Democrats keep a majority of State Congress, it really doesn't make a difference who the Governor is in Illinois, the Democratic policies will continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTriple Posted June 9, 2022 at 04:05 PM Share Posted June 9, 2022 at 04:05 PM On 6/8/2022 at 7:01 AM, SiliconSorcerer said: Unfortunately I think your right, the too conservative for Illinois ads makes me wonder just wonder what the heck is wrong with that? To win Illinois gubernatorial races you have to win the suburbs. Lose them, lose the race. Unfortunately, a Bailey would alienate suburbanites and many getable working class votes in suburban Cook County and Chicago proper. Illinois gun owners may not like this state of affairs, but we have to be pragmatic. With that in mind, which is the most pragmatic choice in a Biden +14 state? Irvin, who comes off as moderate and inoffensive, or Bailey, who is already being presented as a far right-wing conservative lunatic? Don't think like a gun owner. Instead, think like a swing voter in Winnetka, someone who voted for Pritzker and Biden but who is upset about the current state of affairs, and who wants a return to normalcy. Would she ever vote for a Trumpy candidate? Absolutely not. But she would vote for a Youngkin-like character. That has to be your approach. This isn't Missouri. You need to consider your circumstances and work within the confines of what is actually achievable where you live versus what you'd personally prefer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiliconSorcerer Posted June 9, 2022 at 04:13 PM Share Posted June 9, 2022 at 04:13 PM I respectfully disagree on the suburbs part, win Chicago +10 votes and you win the state, we've seen that many times. Unfortunately I think Irwin is the only chance or it's JB again but is has NOTHING to do with policies. Maybe a Democrat that hated Trump with resonate with a Democrats that hated Trump and want change. I've asked for signs in my yard and the only reason I think they aren't delivering is the America Flags (one in front and one in back) that's just very sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTriple Posted June 9, 2022 at 04:30 PM Share Posted June 9, 2022 at 04:30 PM On 6/9/2022 at 11:13 AM, SiliconSorcerer said: I respectfully disagree on the suburbs part, win Chicago +10 votes and you win the state, we've seen that many times. Unfortunately I think Irwin is the only chance or it's JB again but is has NOTHING to do with policies. Maybe a Democrat that hated Trump with resonate with a Democrats that hated Trump and want change. I've asked for signs in my yard and the only reason I think they aren't delivering is the America Flags (one in front and one in back) that's just very sad. But policies do matter, and will play an outsized role in the midterms. People are upset about inflation/cost of living, and crime, which are two issues where Pritzker is weak. If a candidate for the GOP avoids getting pigeonholed like Bailey, they can discuss Pritzker's failures in these areas. Remember, Youngkin has already provided us a roadmap. Did people vote for Youngkin because of who he was, or did they vote for his policies? It was the policies that put him over the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrlandInstructor Posted June 10, 2022 at 05:39 PM Share Posted June 10, 2022 at 05:39 PM A new Sun Times/WBEZ poll has Bailey up by 15% over Irvin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeper13 Posted June 10, 2022 at 05:51 PM Share Posted June 10, 2022 at 05:51 PM I really like Max, he put all the conservative points on the table. I think it will be Bailey as top guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiliconSorcerer Posted June 10, 2022 at 05:54 PM Share Posted June 10, 2022 at 05:54 PM On 6/10/2022 at 12:39 PM, OrlandInstructor said: A new Sun Times/WBEZ poll has Bailey up by 15% over Irvin. Where's the Bailey vs JB or the Irvin vs JB poll, that's the only one that matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger Posted June 14, 2022 at 11:31 PM Share Posted June 14, 2022 at 11:31 PM I think Bailey can definitely win the primary; but that he won't stand a chance in the general. I really don't care about the primary. They call the one who wins the general "Governor". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger Posted June 14, 2022 at 11:34 PM Share Posted June 14, 2022 at 11:34 PM FWIW: I read that the democrats are sending out those Bailey too conservative flyers to help out in both the primary and general. They will help Bailey win the general and then be more easily beaten in the general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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