Jeffrey Posted May 3, 2022 at 06:13 PM Share Posted May 3, 2022 at 06:13 PM Came across this quick video of RINO Aurora Mayor out telling people at a police protest back in 2020 how he can't breath: https://fb.watch/cN8W87tvOR/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2A4Cook Posted May 3, 2022 at 06:59 PM Share Posted May 3, 2022 at 06:59 PM On 5/3/2022 at 1:13 PM, Jeffrey said: Came across this quick video of RINO Aurora Mayor out telling people at a police protest back in 2020 how he can't breath: https://fb.watch/cN8W87tvOR/ Can't watch it. I quit FB years ago. You should, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeper13 Posted May 3, 2022 at 07:04 PM Share Posted May 3, 2022 at 07:04 PM On 5/3/2022 at 1:13 PM, Jeffrey said: Came across this quick video of RINO Aurora Mayor out telling people at a police protest back in 2020 how he can't breath: https://fb.watch/cN8W87tvOR/ They should have posted more of the vid. It would have been interesting to hear what he had to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Posted May 3, 2022 at 08:53 PM Share Posted May 3, 2022 at 08:53 PM I hear ya 2A. As much as I'd like to, it still functions as a great tool for a marketplace. Buying and selling cars and motorcycles through there is easier than picking up the ol tradin' times. Plus it covers much more area than just the midwest. But I know where you're coming from. I've just gotten to the point in my own life that I think if I were to cut off every business we all have gripes about, I'd have no where to go. There's just always something to bish about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mab22 Posted May 4, 2022 at 02:54 AM Share Posted May 4, 2022 at 02:54 AM I’m tired of Irvin’s BS mailers, he keeps trying to slam Sullivan and Bailey. When you read the “foot notes”, it’s complete BS! So much for don’t attack Republicans as a Republican, maybe Irvin is Democrap in Rino’s clothing. Wouldn’t be the first time in Illinois. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Posted May 4, 2022 at 12:41 PM Share Posted May 4, 2022 at 12:41 PM Maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclist Posted May 5, 2022 at 01:46 AM Share Posted May 5, 2022 at 01:46 AM Bailey for Governor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTHunter Posted May 6, 2022 at 06:43 PM Share Posted May 6, 2022 at 06:43 PM Even when he is "smiling", Irvin's face looks like he just sucked on a sour lemon the way it is all scrunched up. It doesn't look like a "trustworthy" face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wideglide11 Posted May 6, 2022 at 08:32 PM Share Posted May 6, 2022 at 08:32 PM I just got TWO more of Irvin's flyers today! He keeps talking about Sullivan and Bailey doing things for the Democrats. Irvin is handling this just as a Democrat would, and I question if he is getting funding from Soros with all the mailings! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikew Posted May 6, 2022 at 08:39 PM Share Posted May 6, 2022 at 08:39 PM On 5/6/2022 at 3:32 PM, Wideglide11 said: I question if he is getting funding from Soros with all the mailings! well, he just another another 25 million from griff the billionaire. That's 45 million so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markthesignguy Posted May 7, 2022 at 03:07 AM Share Posted May 7, 2022 at 03:07 AM He certainly is working hard to stir up a lot of hate, and most of it is splashing back on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springfield shooter Posted May 10, 2022 at 05:46 PM Share Posted May 10, 2022 at 05:46 PM Anybody else get another anti-Bailey flyer in the mail today? I wonder if this stuff is going statewide, or just downstate? I'm going to guess it's only going to folks that have voted in past Republican primaries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wideglide11 Posted May 10, 2022 at 07:58 PM Share Posted May 10, 2022 at 07:58 PM I just got another mailer from Irvin.......two yesterday one today! Somebody needs to tell that sack o chit that he has officially influenced my vote. Anybody But Irvin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modeler1945 Posted May 10, 2022 at 08:32 PM Share Posted May 10, 2022 at 08:32 PM I get multiple per week and I'm in one of the collar counties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchet Posted May 11, 2022 at 10:47 AM Share Posted May 11, 2022 at 10:47 AM Any politico crap I get in the mail goes straight to the garbage. Don't care who its from or about. So I may have. I throw out somethign about every other day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BennyDR Posted May 11, 2022 at 01:40 PM Share Posted May 11, 2022 at 01:40 PM the more I get in the mail from a candidate the less likely I am to vote for them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiliconSorcerer Posted May 11, 2022 at 04:31 PM Share Posted May 11, 2022 at 04:31 PM On 5/10/2022 at 2:58 PM, Wideglide11 said: I just got another mailer from Irvin.......two yesterday one today! Somebody needs to tell that sack o chit that he has officially influenced my vote. Anybody But Irvin! If you believe polls he's got everyone else stomped, this is not an endorsement I'm just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odinson Posted May 12, 2022 at 03:41 PM Share Posted May 12, 2022 at 03:41 PM On 5/11/2022 at 11:31 AM, SiliconSorcerer said: If you believe polls he's got everyone else stomped, this is not an endorsement I'm just saying. Are these polls that Irvin is citing or actual polls? I've only seen that Emerson College poll and that one had Irvin at 24% and Bailey at 20%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prairie Pucker Posted May 12, 2022 at 05:41 PM Share Posted May 12, 2022 at 05:41 PM At the end of the day, the only thing that matters in the R primary is whether the winner stands even a <chance> against Pritzker. We can talk about candidate polls and argue 2A positions all day long, but in the world of realpolitik all that matters is how the candidate will fare in the northeast corner of the state, regardless of theories of how he got on the ballot to begin with. As I see it, Bailey or Sullivan have less than zero chance against Pritzker. They'll draw next to no votes from Chicago. IMO, the problem with IL conservatives is that, much like Chicago voters who habitually vote D "just because," IL cons vote R the same way....because that's what they've always done. When their candidates lose, they stand around looking at each other like a cow at a new fence. In doing so they completely neglect the realpolitik, the practical fact of the matter that Chicago wields an undue influence at election time. It really sucks to be an IL conservative. But instead of developing a different approach, one aimed at attracting more votes out of Chicago, what happens? We keep on doing the same old thing and losing more votes to urban areas along the way! And wow, does <that> ever work well! D's now control both branches of the legislature and a porcine D roots around in the gov's sty. It's a shame to have to play politics with politics, but as IL residents that's the hand we've been dealt. I've been voting R and 2A positions only for decades. Locally, the situation isn't great but it is tolerable. But at the state level? I'm <very> tired of seeing witness slips ignored by committee chairs. I'm tired of seeing the Speaker refuse to call bills. I'm tired of a gov who rubber stamps any and all antigun bills that hit his desk. Something needs to change. How could a vote for Irvin possibly be any worse than the complete D control that exists now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiliconSorcerer Posted May 12, 2022 at 06:23 PM Share Posted May 12, 2022 at 06:23 PM On 5/12/2022 at 12:41 PM, Prairie Pucker said: At the end of the day, the only thing that matters in the R primary is whether the winner stands even a <chance> against Pritzker. We can talk about candidate polls and argue 2A positions all day long, but in the world of realpolitik all that matters is how the candidate will fare in the northeast corner of the state, regardless of theories of how he got on the ballot to begin with. As I see it, Bailey or Sullivan have less than zero chance against Pritzker. They'll draw next to no votes from Chicago. IMO, the problem with IL conservatives is that, much like Chicago voters who habitually vote D "just because," IL cons vote R the same way....because that's what they've always done. When their candidates lose, they stand around looking at each other like a cow at a new fence. In doing so they completely neglect the realpolitik, the practical fact of the matter that Chicago wields an undue influence at election time. It really sucks to be an IL conservative. But instead of developing a different approach, one aimed at attracting more votes out of Chicago, what happens? We keep on doing the same old thing and losing more votes to urban areas along the way! And wow, does <that> ever work well! D's now control both branches of the legislature and a porcine D roots around in the gov's sty. It's a shame to have to play politics with politics, but as IL residents that's the hand we've been dealt. I've been voting R and 2A positions only for decades. Locally, the situation isn't great but it is tolerable. But at the state level? I'm <very> tired of seeing witness slips ignored by committee chairs. I'm tired of seeing the Speaker refuse to call bills. I'm tired of a gov who rubber stamps any and all antigun bills that hit his desk. Something needs to change. How could a vote for Irvin possibly be any worse than the complete D control that exists now? I want JB gone, Irwin has a B, if anyone can pull the votes from Chicago needed. Anything to beat JB Irwin will get my vote, maybe next time we will have a better choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BennyDR Posted May 12, 2022 at 10:09 PM Share Posted May 12, 2022 at 10:09 PM On 5/12/2022 at 1:41 PM, Prairie Pucker said: At the end of the day, the only thing that matters in the R primary is whether the winner stands even a <chance> against Pritzker. We can talk about candidate polls and argue 2A positions all day long, but in the world of realpolitik all that matters is how the candidate will fare in the northeast corner of the state, regardless of theories of how he got on the ballot to begin with. As I see it, Bailey or Sullivan have less than zero chance against Pritzker. They'll draw next to no votes from Chicago. IMO, the problem with IL conservatives is that, much like Chicago voters who habitually vote D "just because," IL cons vote R the same way....because that's what they've always done. When their candidates lose, they stand around looking at each other like a cow at a new fence. In doing so they completely neglect the realpolitik, the practical fact of the matter that Chicago wields an undue influence at election time. It really sucks to be an IL conservative. But instead of developing a different approach, one aimed at attracting more votes out of Chicago, what happens? We keep on doing the same old thing and losing more votes to urban areas along the way! And wow, does <that> ever work well! D's now control both branches of the legislature and a porcine D roots around in the gov's sty. It's a shame to have to play politics with politics, but as IL residents that's the hand we've been dealt. I've been voting R and 2A positions only for decades. Locally, the situation isn't great but it is tolerable. But at the state level? I'm <very> tired of seeing witness slips ignored by committee chairs. I'm tired of seeing the Speaker refuse to call bills. I'm tired of a gov who rubber stamps any and all antigun bills that hit his desk. Something needs to change. How could a vote for Irvin possibly be any worse than the complete D control that exists now? Couln't have said it better myself. The candidates that have the best chance to beat Pritzker are ones that appeal to moderates in urban areas. Rural areas will vote R regardless of name, we need to select whoever has the best chance even if they aren't the most "conservative" of the candidates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Posted May 13, 2022 at 02:14 PM Share Posted May 13, 2022 at 02:14 PM So just keep going with the same old, same old.. I could never give my vote to a guy that hates the police. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallbore Posted May 13, 2022 at 02:48 PM Share Posted May 13, 2022 at 02:48 PM Past Illinois rino governors have been as bad or worse then Pritzker. I prefer to vote for the better guy even if he loses. I am done helping the bad guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiliconSorcerer Posted May 13, 2022 at 05:03 PM Share Posted May 13, 2022 at 05:03 PM On 5/13/2022 at 9:14 AM, Jeffrey said: So just keep going with the same old, same old.. I could never give my vote to a guy that hates the police. So your not voting in the general election? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BennyDR Posted May 14, 2022 at 02:36 PM Share Posted May 14, 2022 at 02:36 PM On 5/13/2022 at 10:48 AM, Smallbore said: Past Illinois rino governors have been as bad or worse then Pritzker. I prefer to vote for the better guy even if he loses. I am done helping the bad guy. This is why I don't really find the need to vote. In hindsight, Obama might have been more conservative than Mccain or Romney. Same thing with Rauner, I would rather have the dem if the only other option is a rino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richp Posted May 14, 2022 at 03:01 PM Share Posted May 14, 2022 at 03:01 PM Don't forget that past Illinois Republican governors have been up against Madigan and an entrenched (for many years this meant Daley-controlled) state Democratic machine. The Ds may be somewhat weaker now. And in my view, any R would be better than JB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragsbo Posted May 14, 2022 at 05:10 PM Share Posted May 14, 2022 at 05:10 PM The economy of the state must be booming because of all the mailings I get EVERY DAY from EVERY candidate! IF they use in state printing houses and supply chain, and ACTUALLY pay for it, then business must be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wideglide11 Posted May 14, 2022 at 08:39 PM Share Posted May 14, 2022 at 08:39 PM The Postal System is about to get upset with me. Everything I get from Irvin is getting marked "Return To Sender", and dropped in the mail box! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbrooks Posted May 16, 2022 at 06:11 PM Share Posted May 16, 2022 at 06:11 PM Someone said it earlier, make friends with new voters. Even if they have been voting D for a long time. The only reason is no one else courts them and properly. If the Rs of this state or in the Chicago area (if any exist?) would spend a little time in the hard hit communities, you will find majority law abiding citizens who just want to go to work and be left alone. But day in and out, they get told that the Rs are racist and don't want anything to do with them. Connect with them on religion, on family values (trust me, that is still important in the black AMERICAN household). Connect with them on gun rights, mentioning how gun control laws were historically racist. Connect with their desire to want safety in their communities by preaching self reliance and concealed carry. Don't be all uncomfortable about it either. Go and hang out for real. I am willing to bet after a few election cycles, the percentage of Rs in the state house increases and over time, maybe, just maybe gain the majority. But, the base has to want to have an open mind about it and not write off anyone as a RINO who does it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Posted May 17, 2022 at 02:12 PM Share Posted May 17, 2022 at 02:12 PM On 5/13/2022 at 12:03 PM, SiliconSorcerer said: So your not voting in the general election? Not if both candidates are supporters of that crowd. I'll still vote for the local races. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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